EA Plans to monitor Ranked Servers for Hackers....

[Newfs]

I wonder how much truth there is to this....



There are always going to be work-arounds on security/hack protection programs.

VAC2 for CS:Source seems to be doing a good job, but with the right amount of programming on a hack, it's possible to work around I believe.

BF2 has hundreds of EA Official ranked servers and just letting everyone here know that they are all being upgraded within the next 48 hours. Thanks to the admin program which is just about to get underway (Which I am a part of), 2-5 admins will be assigned to every server within the next 2 weeks or so, everything is still getting setup so it may take a bit of time.

Source:
www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14115809

[Spontaneous]

I highly doubt that. Specially consider most ranked servers are privately rented. EA only runs about 50 to 100 ranked servers, if that many even.

[scruie]

read that link, seems to be a bunch of kiddies moanin - some AC activity to scare. can't find anything about this off EA or EB sites.

[Marzipan90]

I don't think that's realistic...2-5 admins per EA-server? Very unlikely that will happen. And even if it does happen, what's the problem?

[Alias781]

Fake.

[Chaotik]

Even if they did have 5 admins on a server, there is no way they could no. What are they gonna do. Take a screenshot of players. There are many private hacks that send fake ss and beat pb easily! I agree with spont. there aint more than 100 ea servers. FAKE

[jawohl_69]

They can put as many admins as they want. What I would want them to do is to force the gay ass PISTOL/KNIFE/REVIVE ONLY servers (ranked) to be regular servers.

[GameWizard]

www.bf2rankedservers.com - this might be the progarm they're refering to. It's basically a "trusted" admin program where they are given certain rights on specific servers which they monitor. I know a few of them which check over 10-20 servers a day for cheaters and ban them without notice if seen.

[l3ushwig]

They can put as many admins as they want. What I would want them to do is to force the gay ass PISTOL/KNIFE/REVIVE ONLY servers (ranked) to be regular servers.

I think they are, after seeing this post i went and found a few servers like that i went into one got CD key Banned, Used a 2nd cd key got banned again and again and again :(

Im going to go try one more time with another clean CD key

[_talon]

lol only a scare tactic

im gonna cheat no matter what lol



Bushwig

Admins CANNOT guid ban you for no reason

other wise i would do it to EVERYONE to piss people off LMFAO


It was the loader you were using just use the other one i told you about :)

[Marzipan90]

Like I said, it's of no use...you can cheat on a 64 EA-server with everyone else being admin without getting caught at all lol. Dunno how that's supposed to be a scare tactic...

[l3ushwig]

lol only a scare tactic

im gonna cheat no matter what lol



Bushwig

Admins CANNOT guid ban you for no reason

other wise i would do it to EVERYONE to piss people off LMFAO


It was the loader you were using just use the other one i told you about :)

LoL i forgot to delete the 4 i gave you that u got cd key banned on.... I used a diff clean one and it works now.. :paranoid:

[[tehdck]]

VAC2 for CS:Source seems to be doing a good job, but with the right amount of programming on a hack, it's possible to work around I believe.

Its 100% easier to cheat on CS:S. I foound and used a multihack in mts. BF2 you have to actually learn how to hack and submitting it to the public is basiclaly asking for it to be detected.

[Spontaneous]

cheating in CSS is not easier. Its actually a lot harder to make hacks undetected by vac2 then it is PB. Also with PB, they got temp bans. Vac2, your banned forever on the first detection. Vac2 looks for any kind of hooks into the game, where PB only looks for hacks.

[DarkCode]

cheating in CSS is not easier. Its actually a lot harder to make hacks undetected by vac2 then it is PB. Also with PB, they got temp bans. Vac2, your banned forever on the first detection. Vac2 looks for any kind of hooks into the game, where PB only looks for hacks.

So true, thats why I "borrow" steam accounts when I want to test something.

[Skitz_Viper]

BF2 has hundreds of EA Official ranked servers and just letting everyone here know that they are all being upgraded within the next 48 hours. Thanks to the admin program which is just about to get underway (Which I am a part of), [b]2-5 admins will be assigned to every server[b/] within the next 2 weeks or so, everything is still getting setup so it may take a bit of time.

just pointing out the obvious. parts of this have been said. but to make my point, the writing in bold. now i will do a bit of maths (i hate maths)

using microsoft calculator i did the following calculations

hundreds = more than 1. so lets say 2
2-5 admins per servers, lets average this to 3.5 (half way between 2 and 5, i think!)

200 (hundred) x 3.5(admins)
= 700 EA Admins wasting their time.

now. if there were 300 and 4 admins a server.
= 1200 EA Admins (with 600 imported homeless people)

= Not Possible!

[jawohl_69]

I applied for the L1 position which means HACKS OFF for me on those servers. I don't mind. I'm still better without hacks than most of poeple playin.
I didn't count how many servers there are, but it's freakin a lot. Just the EastCoast has like 30, then WestCoast, ZBoard, GameDamean, etc. It's like 150 servers with about 5 L1 admins, maybe 2 L2 admins, and 1 L3 admin.

[Skitz_Viper]

I applied for the L1 position

note what kind of forum you are on.
you just claimed you were a hacker, and now you are trying to stop hackers? makes no sense mate. either you are, or you aren't/never have

why would you hack then decide to stop the hacks? especially 'if' this is 'true' it wont stop us.

[jawohl_69]

I didn't say I'll stop hacking. Hey, I might get some inside info or whatever. Maybe I'll understand how stuff works. When hacks are released of course I'll hack, just not on EA servers because I know for a fact they will check me.

[knicki12]

we will never be stopped unless EA stops dishin out cd keys btw i dont lyk that site lol
and ur right skitz EA would jus be wasting their time tryin to look over so many servers.

[jawohl_69]

I applied to fight the gay ass stat-padders, and since I major in Computer Science, I might even put something down on my resume if I get accepted as L1 admin + experience. I dont care about hackers cuz I'll hack myself.

[M4levolenT]

I applied to fight the gay ass stat-padders
Stat padding should be fixed by 1.03 anyway...

[jawohl_69]

According to what I read, there will be more to the fight against stat-padders than just 1.03. The hardest hit are going to get clan ranked servers that use any kind of exploits to increase scoring. Their scores will be reset, and then forced to change their server to unranked.

[Marzipan90]

According to what I read, there will be more to the fight against stat-padders than just 1.03. The hardest hit are going to get clan ranked servers that use any kind of exploits to increase scoring. Their scores will be reset, and then forced to change their server to unranked.

lol You're serious? The point farming is no cheat or hack, it came along with the game. I don't run a server myself, but if I did and EA tried to do that to me, I'd definitely sue them to get the game-and hosting-costs back. And I'd claim financial compensation for the time wasted. No possibility they could get away with something like that.

[Spontaneous]

Well I doubt that they would go that far. I doubt they would force people to move from ranked to unranked server. Stats reset, well they reset stat padders already in the past so it wouldnt be too bad.

[Marzipan90]

Well I doubt that they would go that far. I doubt they would force people to move from ranked to unranked server. Stats reset, well they reset stat padders already in the past so it wouldnt be too bad.

Well, yeah...if a guy does have like a knifekill-rate of 600:2, it's quite obvious. But sometimes it's harder to tell. And that's when EA is in the position to find concrete evidence or just leave the gamer's account alone, if they think about acting on that issue. Cause some players are just very very good and play 24/7, that's a fact they should keep in mind, I think. And again, the possibility of stat padding is not the player's fault, it's all on EA's side. If they have reset padders accounts already, they have actually made customers pay for their mistake.

[Spontaneous]

Marzipan90, if they suspect an account of stat padding, they could easy add a logging function to that account to see what other accounts interact with it. As is they can tell who your top enemy/friend is. If they see 2 or more accounts linked together for so many points, they know the people are stat padding. Yea some players are good but they can link accounts together for stat padding which is enough evidence to reset the players stats. It is not EAs fault for stat padding. You dont see EA holding the hand of them stat padders forcing them to stat pad. Dont even start blaming EA for stat padders.

[Marzipan90]

Ok Spontaneous, I get that point of the account interactions, pretty smart eh ;) . Anyway, padding is still a mistake in programming, as EA stated that they'd be able to fix it with a patch. I didn't say EA is forcing anyone, but they should know that if there is an exploit like this stat padding in their game, people, at least some, will find out and use it. And so I do blame EA for that. But it is not really of my concern, I never cared about it as the stats reveal pretty easily and for everyone to see if someone padded or not (so the padders can't really boast about their ranks etc.).
I am more afraid of the fact that the new patch might overbalance the game.
In public forums everyone is bsing about how unfair it is that flags are captured in secs by blackhawks, but they don't realise it's six people in that heli and that it's the same as six soldiers lying by an enemy-flag...and these communities are the ones that give feedback to EA...very worrying if you ask me.

[knicki12]

i can relate to this because i was reading a forum (cnt memba which one) and they were b**chin, and a lot of them said that they would send an email to EA telling them what people were doin (the blackhawk flag caping). well i decided that i would email them just to see what they said this is what they said "we cannot stop the players flag cappturing decisions that is totaly up to them, plus we cannot stop it.


marzipan is right a blackhawk cap is the same as 6 ppl on the ground cappin the flag

[Spontaneous]

Yea its the same as 6 people on the ground but the problem is that if you got the right 6 people on a blackhawk, its almost impossible to take down. If you got engineers to repair it and support to give ammo, and a medic to heal anyone that might get shoot, good luck killing anyone or taking the blackhawk down. When 6 people are on the ground, you have a chance of killing them. When 6 people are in a blackhawk, its almost impossible to kill them. Thats the problem.

Marzipan90, really there will always be stat padding. It is not an exploit. There really is no way for EA to patch it. They can try making stat padding harder to do with coding but they will never be able to stop it. Its not a problem with coding. Its a problem with the people that play the game.

[M4levolenT]

Yea its the same as 6 people on the ground but the problem is that if you got the right 6 people on a blackhawk, its almost impossible to take down. If you got engineers to repair it and support to give ammo, and a medic to heal anyone that might get shoot, good luck killing anyone or taking the blackhawk down. When 6 people are on the ground, you have a chance of killing them. When 6 people are in a blackhawk, its almost impossible to kill them. Thats the problem.

Marzipan90, really there will always be stat padding. It is not an exploit. There really is no way for EA to patch it. They can try making stat padding harder to do with coding but they will never be able to stop it. Its not a problem with coding. Its a problem with the people that play the game.
Agreed.

The players are the ones that choose to do it, not EA. Without players that want to stat pad, stat padding wouldn't exist in the first place, so how could it be EA's fault?

[Marzipan90]

Well I could start about what a game coder should think about when he works on a game, but that would lead to nowhere. We can turn this around and around, I still feel the problem is based on how the game is programmed/made. For me it's still a fact that EA gave the possibility of padding. Wether or not it is unfair to use it, I don't care. I don't do it, I'm not interested. And as I said, padders won't be too happy about their stats anyway. And if 3 guys hang around on a far side of a map all the time, it doesn't matter a f*** to me. As soon as they try to boast about their achievements, they'll end up getting flamed by everyone. But it seems I'm echoing myself. That's just the way I see it. I don't want a good game ruined by *****s (just concerning the players moaning about the heli-thing).
Spontaneous, it's not THAT difficult to take a full heli out, even with all the kits you named involved. It just takes good teamwork on the defending side too. But most players (me quite often too) haven't yet got used to how to act when the helis come around...

[l3ushwig]

HA! I have to admit I went in to one of them knife/pistol servers a few times and WOAH! earler today when i log on i see my account reset........ :(

[jawohl_69]

I read that many pistol/knife servers are getting either shut down or switch to unranked. And if you are caught playing on one of those that are still ranked, it doesn't matter if you're the owner or not, your stats will be reset.
One word to say: BUAHAHAHAAHAHAHA...

[VirusionHaX]

That would be just dumb to reset players stats just because they were on a Knife/Pistol Ranked server. I mean I got on a few of them just to have fun killing with just Knife/Pistol and to see where I stand agaist the better Knife/Pistol duelers. I mean comon sometime you get tired of the spammers in S@K.

Hell after being in that server for 5 min. I watch the better players take out Pistolers w/ Knife with out any problems. So I watch them for awhile to see how they do it. Soon I learn how to do it as well. Now I can take on people in reg servers w/ my Knife when they use there prim weapon in CQC. Only kit problem I have to face so far is the Shotgun/upgrade and them darn support that just never seem to run out of ammo.

Now what I don't like about K/P server is how easy it is to get points. Been in there where I saw the Medic get close to 300 points just from healing and rev people. Think how happy the Commander is when all his team is above 100 points and win. He doesn't even have to do anything just give them sup. boxes.

*EDIT* After reading my post again I see how it wouldn't be dumb to reset players stats for being in a K/P server. Just reread my 3rd paragraph. :rolleyes:

[Schooler]

That would be just dumb to reset players stats just because they were on a Knife/Pistol Ranked server. I mean I got on a few of them just to have fun killing with just Knife/Pistol and to see where I stand agaist the better Knife/Pistol duelers. I mean comon sometime you get tired of the spammers in S@K.

Hell after being in that server for 5 min. I watch the better players take out Pistolers w/ Knife with out any problems. So I watch them for awhile to see how they do it. Soon I learn how to do it as well. Now I can take on people in reg servers w/ my Knife when they use there prim weapon in CQC. Only kit problem I have to face so far is the Shotgun/upgrade and them darn support that just never seem to run out of ammo.

Now what I don't like about K/P server is how easy it is to get points. Been in there where I saw the Medic get close to 300 points just from healing and rev people. Think how happy the Commander is when all his team is above 100 points and win. He doesn't even have to do anything just give them sup. boxes.

*EDIT* After reading my post again I see how it wouldn't be dumb to reset players stats for being in a K/P server. Just reread my 3rd paragraph. :rolleyes:

You don't seem like you have the typical "Cheater" mentality. I better schedule you for Mind Regression Therapy right away. :rev1:

[Bensam123]

Seems to me they are more after the stat padders then the real cheaters. Fine by Me :)