Kill innocent TMmates, Win bloody scores?

[Hue-jass]

It hasn't been once that I c some1 using hacks to kill team mates on a FF-off server. It also happened on my server once... and... I have to kick him "manually".
Seems he can avoid the foresight anti-cheat scan.
He also can land sharking on the Moh-SH map.

Whadda hell was he using? It's been always a great headache that you must get out of the heated batlle & transform yourself from a soldier to a dominater(or, terminator, buster?)

Though, this things seldoms happens... I still feel a bit curious bout this...and hoping I can get somewhere to download this hack and try it myself... :laugh:

[m0d hipp¥]

this should be moved to sh, but anywho... 1stly do u have the laest version of foresight? and if you do im gonna say what I remeber saying last time "I told u it would be possible to bypass foresight, but noone believed me" I kinda expect a flame outta that comment, but seriously noones listening to me so ill just flat out say it.. there are ways around sharking. the way sharking works is as follows.. when u go upto the ladder and jump off of it to go underground theres a trigger on the ladder. basically when u fall off (jump off) the ladder its assuming u got shot and died... now the animation that is drawn in game when u get shot is u lay flat on the ground correct... sooo with that said.. U shark, game thinks ur dead, but ur not, so it calls for the death model or whatnot, and it draws u flat... kinda... which is y ur like half way under the ground.. if that makes sense.. there has been a way to get passed simple bypasses by hexing the kill cvars and anything related to it.... and since it can be hexed to pretty much anything it was hard to detect if a server had a fix for it.. Recently b0x,b0c, and otacon released the src code for their client game hook, they never released the hack itself, but the hook was made to help coders compile their own src using the base hook. Ok now here comes the goody goody part.. there have been more and more coders when it comes to mohaa, or so I have seen anywho, nothing is stopping them from using that hook or tweaking it. I remember b0x saying that he would be able to shark in any server he wanted and it would bypass it, duno if that was released in the src or not, but if it has.. theres ur answer.. if it wasn released w\ the src well nothing is stopping another coder from trying it...

as far as chams are concerned... Ive played in many foresight servers with chams on and I havent been detected.. nothing special there, and I just use regular ol custom pk3 chams. sooo really foresight isnt all that hot but hopefully that answers some q's?

[Neo_oeN]

He said someone TKed on a non FF server, I'm interested in that. The only way I can think of is throwing a nade and switching teams...

[Sudden Death]

foresight can't stop chams or anything isn't it just used to try 2 stop sharkers/spawn killers and stuff..


It hasn't been once that I c some1 using hacks to kill team mates on a FF-off server.
I think it must be telenading? When you throw a nade if you switch teams the nade will also switch from german nade to allied nade & the other way around. So when u switch teams after throwing a nade the people on ur own team near the nade will die if that makes sense :( (Just for that guy who started the thread if he doesn't know lol - Next time they do it see if they are using a nade to kill their own team, and u should see them changing teams)

There is a script 4 this but its easy just 2 do it normally or bind the "joinaxis" command or something...


hexing the kill cvars and anything related to it

Would that work? Because that seems easier than the other way around it. If that would work then what sort of things are 'related to it?'

[elgan]

when u go upto the ladder and jump off of it to go underground theres a trigger on the ladder. basically when u fall off (jump off) the ladder its assuming u got shot and died... now the animation that is drawn in game when u get shot is u lay flat on the ground correct... sooo with that said.. U shark, game thinks ur dead, but ur not, so it calls for the death model or whatnot, and it draws u flat... kinda... which is y ur like half way under the ground.. if that makes sense.. there has been a way to get passed simple bypasses by hexing the kill cvars and anything related to it.... and since it can be hexed to pretty much anything it was hard to detect if a server had a fix for it.. Recently b0x,b0c, and otacon released the src code for their client game hook, they never released the hack itself, but the hook was made to help coders compile their own src using the base hook. Ok now here comes the goody goody part.. there have been more and more coders when it comes to mohaa, or so I have seen anywho, nothing is stopping them from using that hook or tweaking it. I remember b0x saying that he would be able to shark in any server he wanted and it would bypass it, duno if that was released in the src or not, but if it has.. theres ur answer.. if it wasn released w\ the src well nothing is stopping another coder from trying it...

as far as chams are concerned... Ive played in many foresight servers with chams on and I havent been detected.. nothing special there, and I just use regular ol custom pk3 chams. sooo really foresight isnt all that hot but hopefully that answers some q's?

actualy. The shark part. Thats wrong.

Im not saying no more.

[enternal]

sometimes when i am hacking in a sever there used to be 2 guys that would be on my team and the would shoot a rocket then get into spec mode so they must have a bind for enter example i would shoot a rocket and hit enter and then it would go to spec mode and i would get that kill or you mabey could make a bind just say so it changes teams with the same gun??..i dunno but these guys had it it really pissed me of cause they where basicly the only ones who could kill me..

thx ENTERNAL DOMINATOR

[c00ki3 m0nst3r]

^^ yehp. game doesnt think youre dead, etc etc. good ol' clashing glitchy animations, yay!

anyways, it depends on the machanism used by the server to stop you from sharking.. some are rather effective, some older fixes you could get around just by hexing +use

other than telenading, you can telerocket too. :) ''join_team allies'' ; ''join_team axis'' ; ''spectator''. goes well with renaming yourself to "TEAMKILLED//" when hopping to the other team and whatnot.. names with "blah//" are fun if you use your imagination a bit..

element.. have you looked at the src at all? any time sharking = neg. btw, wheres the 'more and more coders' coming to mohaa.. if anything its the exact opposite..

for the original question, with basic hexing, you can get around most any serverside anticheat function.. which will never be able to stop the use of altered clientside textures.

"sometimes when i am hacking in a sever there used to be 2 guys that would be on my team and the would shoot a rocket then get into spec mode so they must have a bind for enter example i would shoot a rocket and hit enter and then it would go to spec mode and i would get that kill or you mabey could make a bind just say so it changes teams with the same gun??..i dunno but these guys had it"
^^spec mode will give you credit for the kill (so and so killed by so and so) but it wont add to your score.. in obj/rb it will add it to your round total, but not your total total. you have to change teams to get it to add to your total total. also for changing teams with binds, the aliases are ^^ up there.. i wrote a really basic telefragging script to do this awhile back (one key kill/swap teams). to choose a weapon for the other team, youll need to add in some waits and then use ''primarydmweapon blah'' where blah is either rifle/sniper/shotgun/smg/mg/heavy. to change your weapon to a specific one after spawning, youll need more waits and ''useweaponclass blah'' where you can use the above ones and alos pistol/grenade

[Hue-jass]

Thanks you folks... I kin remember da first time I c this on my server... well acutually, not my server... It's my friends cos it just makes you feel weird when you know your IP adrs 's been shown to every1... well my lily cute friend assured me that he installed Foresuck ver 1.5, and I did check the file under the \mohaa\ directory... I'm trying to say my initial experience 'bout this cos I thought I turn FF on with my friend's server...

And the latest time I saw this was on EATW(that's right, it's EA Taiwan, sponsored by some mohaa players but useing official name) a guy using De- grenade launcher to kill his mates... oh... oh... OMG tha awful sight....... (I was on spectator mode and followin him then...) I'll never forgget that... his score waas keepin' incresing drAmAtically, and, his mate wanted 2 gave some pay-back...just useless.

It's...really weired! The EATW server should hav bin scanned...
oh MG tha aw-fore-siiiight... It'll be really fancinatin when you got tha hack...
He was not a claner, (he got no logo or sign with his user name...)

yet it was something long time ago... I was got recall this cos I joined in a FF on server and bin hit by a TMmate... I thought he was cheating and called a Vote ta kick'im and unfortunately... I succeed... :P


foresight can't stop chams or anything isn't it just used to try 2 stop sharkers/spawn killers and stuff..


I think it must be telenading? When you throw a nade if you switch teams the nade will also switch from german nade to allied nade & the other way around. So when u switch teams after throwing a nade the people on ur own team near the nade will die if that makes sense :( (Just for that guy who started the thread if he doesn't know lol - Next time they do it see if they are using a nade to kill their own team, and u should see them changing teams)

There is a script 4 this but its easy just 2 do it normally or bind the "joinaxis" command or something...



Would that work? Because that seems easier than the other way around it. If that would work then what sort of things are 'related to it?'


nah- nah- nah--- he's using a German grenade luncher. and he was just popin' shot ta his mates--------- throwin nades, not throwin nades.

As a gamin Veteran and a Script newbie, I distinguish hacks as passive-hack (like ghost cham, cos it just plays some little trik on your own computer)and positive-initialtive hack... what I'm talkin' bout 's clearly.... the positive one...