Anti-Cheat Discussion

[Feared]

They plan on releasing DMW for CoD 2.

Infinity Ward took the surprising step of releasing their latest First Person Shooter game "Call of Duty 2" without an integrated Anti-Cheat. This has left the COD 2 Community in turmoil as the cheat makers were releasing cheats before the actual game had been released. We were asked if DMW3 was going to be available for COD 2 by concerned players and so the work rate was increased to keep the promise made to the Mohaa community to release DMW 3 first, and then move onto COD 2........

Source - http://www.dmwworld.com/view.php?page=news&newsid=214

[squirt]

Oh, goody. :disappoin

[Krams810]

Dont mean shit.... PB was easy to bypass, this dosnt mean anything less!!!

[isobutane]

Dont mean shit.... PB was easy to bypass, this dosnt mean anything less!!!

thats right, and we sure wont less this shit put us down. :devious:

[eM-]

will DMW be harder to crack then PB or what?

[bg11]

will DMW be harder to crack then PB or what?

DMW was bypassed in MOHAA easily, and it will be bypassed easily for CoD2

[eM-]

but this is a new version.. are you sure it will be bypassed easily??

more about how the new DMW works

Here are the features that we can offer with our Scanner/Client software combination:-

* Written in x86 Assembler and C++ for stability, speed and security

* Uses DMW's own exe protection and anti debugging systems

* Integrates with DMW server side ready systems, for full server control from anywhere in the world

* Fully automated system, no configuration, no messing, no hassle

* Automatically detects running of any supported games

* Automatic updates individual files as soon as changes are made

* Full OpenGL and DirectX intelligent hook and modification checking

* Full kernel and user mode API hook checking

* Full game CVAR and option protection

* Shared memory, Drivers, Kernel mode and Windows flaw checking

* Kernel and user mode memory scanning for game and system files

* 512bit Advanced DAMPT© File checksum algorithm

* Dynamic 256bit Cross Packet Encryption system, for highly secure transmission

* Advanced heuristics for detecting future variants of cheats

* Tried and tested with 5 Major selling games and over 100,000 users

* Software run over 21,000,000 times

* In-game menu system

* Sever-side automated client Screenshot with player id overlay and fingerprint system

* Unique hardware identification system.

* Over 1,000,000,000 files scanned

* Supported by all major leagues

* Full international support team

lets see how long it takes to bypass this baby

[wurzil]

Hehe I know somone that owned the new dmw real easy, real fast, wouldnt expect this to be any different.
Wether the bypass will be public is another thing.
Sometimes things are easier than you think, especially on windoze.

[herozero]

As long as there are games, there will be cheats!
The adding of AC, might trigger release of public cheats. One thing is sure without AC there will be no public cheats.

[wakko]

i dunno, i think this one is going to be a hard one... They say they have clans that play CoD, and is assisting them in it:dead:

[eM-]

there are already public cheats herozero so what are you talking about -.-

[dodgyguyno1]

As long as there are games, there will be cheats!
The adding of AC, might trigger release of public cheats. One thing is sure without AC there will be no public cheats.

WTF are u on there are public bots available right now!

i think its a good thing AC as it will stop most noob cheating, and as for private hacks we'll yup u guys can keep them to yourself but u never know 1 day when u least expect it you'll get caught lol and hopefullly it be when your using your skilled aliased nics ;-)

personally i dont cheat and dont really mind cos i still usually pwn anyways lol :-)

[SejiSilverLeaf]

Well ya know someday they are gonna get smarter and put of some new thinger that cant be bypassed. I cheat but hey, we all have to get better without cheats someday.

[herozero]

WTF are u on there are public bots available right now!


Only public cheat out there is the 2cibot with a spam message. I dont count this as a public cheat, since you would have to insane to use it. Not picking up that thread about the message, since I fully support it.


personally i dont cheat and dont really mind cos i still usually pwn anyways lol
:-)

So many ppl write about not cheating. Then what the hell are you doing on a cheat forum??? Its like your brain is on vaction!!

[dodgyguyno1]

thats as fair enough point about the spam messege but it sure aint stopping people from using it lol

and why am i here, cos i like to keep up date with what public cheats are available :-)


for example 2ci's bot now if i never came here i wouldn't have known about the spam messege, untill the word spread about, but cos i come here i know straight away that, that person is a cheater.

edit:a change of mind to much info for ma own good

[ger-eL]

i think a AC tool for CoD2 is some sort of joke.
There will always be a way to bypass it, or hide the running process from it.
So keep cool guys i think our good friend will get a way around very soon.

[Prometheus]

i think a AC tool for CoD2 is some sort of joke.
There will always be a way to bypass it, or hide the running process from it.
So keep cool guys i think our good friend will get a way around very soon.

of course there is , like for any game. It gets bypassed , then it gets fixed.

Its neverending :)

[Weedh3ad]

Its all a matter of being 1 step ahead of the programs

[babo]

Only public cheat out there is the 2cibot with a spam message.

Wrong. You should have posted the only public cheat in this forum for COD2 is 2cibot. Hint mpc sister site!

[matik]

So if I have HW Ban in PB I will have it in DMW ?

[BlackDove]

So if I have HW Ban in PB I will have it in DMW ?

If you get caught stealing in WalMart and are banned in all Walmart stores, does that mean you will be unable to shop at K-Mart?

The two companies that produce the AC's are not connected. You will not be banned if CoD 2 adopts DMW. There is always the possiblity of you getting caught later by DMW though.

@ babo - if you are referring to Sycore's CoD 2 wall hack test, it doesn't even have model recognition.

[Marcel2005]

Guys look what i have found

http://www.fpsadmin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10359

This is Goodie from ECW..

Wanted to let you know that we have completed our anticheat for COD2 and bata well be ready for download later tonight.

This is a client side/server side anticheat that WILL stop all cheats.

The only down side is that you must update the cheats as they are released..

It will scan all process, folder, files, dll's and some things we wont talk about :-)

This is Serverwatch that ECW and Enforcer have worked together on.

So Cheaters beware!!

P.s I have set this up to do GLObal Bans. So cheat on one get kicked from all~

Webmaster@eliteclanwarfare.com

Capt_Goodinhigh

P.s. Please send all know cheats to above address.
P.s. will update Cheats list weekly. Updates avalable at www.eliteclanwarfare.com

i have found this on www.callofduty-news.de !!

[BlackDove]

You should have posted this in the anti-cheat discussion thread. Oh well, I guess they assume all hacks are modular. Can't wait for the release if it's not a publicity stunt.

Edit: threads merged.

[ger-eL]

you can go to your lawyer. Getting Banned by PB for any Game isnt legal at all.
I discussed it with mine. Of Course Cheating is a Violation to the EULA you agree with when installing the Game, but its still not legal to ban you for every goame thats protected by PB.
I got banned HW for CoD but still can play BF2 with PB and they had to remove the HW Ban so i can play this game.

I know the lawyer is the last instance you would go to but its a nice way to givePB a kick to the ass. You should try it.

[Crash&Burn]

There is another AC in the works for COD2 and it also supports all games.

garetjax

Newbie

Join Date: Oct 2005
Official PAM 2.0 and AC Status / Suggestions Thread

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(mods can you sticky this please? )

This will be the place for PAM and AC updates.

Bulletworm has offered to help me this week so I can concentrate on AC. I sent him my code earlier in the week and he will finish off porting vcod PAM 1.8 to PAM 2.0 for CoD2. Between the two of us we can then finish off whatever new stuff is needed (like the cvar blocker stuff being tested now).

I have been spending most of my time on AC. I have been talking with IW and I need to have some work done and sent to them by sometime Friday

I should then hopefully have some more news for you guys on AC next week after I hear back from IW.

I hope you guys are enjoying the CAL servers, let me know if you are having any issues with them or stop by #hidef or #hidef-support.

I really appreciate you guys wanting my paypal but its cool. If you want to help me out that way then consider getting a Hidef CoD2 server - yes im one of the owners so you would be helping me out and getting something in return.

Thanks,

Garet

BlackDove says: Edited to remove advertising links.

[BlackDove]

I have mentioned this in another thread; IW's "official" response to cheating:

http://www.iwnation.com/Forums/index.php?showtopic=17697

We are investigating our own persistent anti-cheat solution. Cheating and exploiting are not condoned by Infinity Ward. Any cheats/hacks should be mailed to xxxxxxxx.

Valve + AC = VAC
IW + AC = IWAC?

It's still unclear as to their choice at this time.

[Loz]

I'm actually glad they aren't putting PB on CoD2.. because I have a global ban from well over a year and a half ago from cheating on Cod 1... so I'm banned from every game with PB.

[BlackDove]

There hasn't been a definitive decision that has been mentioned publically as to their choice for an AC. It is possible that it could be PB. At least if it is, the same old tricks will still work.

By the way, it's called a hardware ban. Global GUID bans are CD key based.

[trio]

I saw yesterday they have been testing the new dmw anti cheat for cod2 on servers and some good clans have helped them with it. Screenshots have been released and it should be here soon.

What do you guys think of this development and does anyone have any info of people working on a way to bypass it etc...

[lesthatcher]

im pretty sure, if not possitive, that there will still be PLENTY of servers that arent going to be running this or even know about it

[killzar]

would agree,

if the anti-cheat cant be by-passed at the start
then your just gonna have to play legit :P

well atleast till its by-passed

[BlackDove]

Until the anti-cheat is widespread, it isn't worth looking in to. It's doubtful that DMW will be used by many servers considering its bad reputation from MOHAA (easy to bypass, configuration and support problems). I can't even find any other information about DMW support for CoD 2 at DMW World other than the old announcement.

I'm looking forward to the other anti-cheat that will be released later in January.

Edit:

http://www.v5-gaming.com/img/shot0017.jpg

They think CoD 2 uses OpenGL? Oh my...

Apparently, server administrators will have to purchase a special version that contains more features. People won't want to pay for something that they think should be free after using PB.

Threads merged.

[trio]

how easy do u think it will be to bypass this version of dmw?

[killzar]

as bd said since nothing has been finalised.
if i was you i would just enjoy your free hacks when u can use them
and not worry about anti-cheat software.

could still be 1-2-3-4months till it will be added...

just enjoy it when u have it.

[herozero]

In lack of actions from Activision and IW talk of all these other AC system have risen to another level. But the only option is PB since the game is build for this to be supported. So when a AC is added it will be punkbuster.
The makers will have to bare the cost of such a system, very few server admins and even fewer users will pay money for cheat proctection themself, it allready costs enought keeping the servers open. So I would not worry about any other type of AC system.

When PB is added it will be in a patch from IW, and then all the publics hack out there now will be caught. The first week will be a ban party like no-other.. :laugh:

[BlackDove]

Herzero, statements like that confuse readers. Now in most release threads, people will be asking "will PB detect this hack?" when in fact, PB will probably not be used.

While the price of adding PB support to a game is unknown for a non-developer, it's probably very high. When people from the community are willing to create something for free (referring to game developers' budgets), why bother spending money for a program like PB.

[herozero]

I think the demand of the whole Cod community is so strong that the makers will have to come of the fence and do something. In the start coders where holding back waiting for a AC, now there is so any cheats out there that each player on a 30 ppl server, could use a different hacks.

If Activision and IW choice not to add AC, than Cod series ends with this game. ppl will not go thought this again.. And they know this!

Big firms like this will never say, "well since there are free AC's out there, we see no reason to add one" that would be digging their own grave.. And lets face it nothing is for free. A anticheat without founds will not be worth anything. Since such such a system demands constant work and updates.
And as I pointed out the cost of a AC will not be bared by the server admins, no way that is happing.

As with all firms they have to stick with a budget! the budget for this year was made in 2004. So since PB was left out, there are no founds in this years budget for adding PB. What with all the money they make of selling the new game you say? This is called profit, it comes back to the stock owners, its how business work. But part of the profit will also have to be reinvested into the firm, for new games and patches.

Next year there will be a patch for the Cod2.That is for sure, and with all the cries for a AC (just read the IW forum) they will no dare to release one without a AC, and most likely that AC will be PB, that is my two cents..

[killzar]

and i think this is just a f**king joke..

that you are talking about everyone needing anti-cheat
so you can play.

but as soon as they do add it.
every one will want a new up-dated hack.

people only want ac, so others cannot cheat
so they can win easier
and to add anti-cheat will cost lots of money...

if u wanna play true mp games.
dont use the pc.

[herozero]

The only one's who stand to benefit from a AC would be coders who can sell their privat hacks. Its not about if we want a AC to be added, nobody wants to get caught and banned. What im saying is that a AC will be added.

Good point about console gaming.
Cod2 is out for Xbox and playstations, since they have 3 markeds to sell the game to might be a big reason why AC wasen't added in the first place, since Xbox and PS dont require any extra fundings for AC.

[killzar]

i just find it funny,
every single server u play cod2 on,
u know people are hacking

but when people start and get owned they start moaning about no ac.
and you know they are hacking.
people want hacks banned.
but they also want an un-detected hack for themselves or there clan


to be 100% honest playing pc mp games is just a waste of time
if you wanna play mp games (properly) i would suggest not using the pc..
b'cuz if u played the new egg-b0x u would understand what i mean
there are 10x the amount of people on concoles playin games
compaired to staright pc games.

and also ull find very little hacks for concoles :P

[gil]

i just find it funny,
every single server u play cod2 on,
u know people are hacking

but when people start and get owned they start moaning about no ac.
and you know they are hacking.
people want hacks banned.
but they also want an un-detected hack for themselves or there clan

= Hypocrites, and we have many of them here.

[killzar]

indeed we do.
the place is full of them,

every single person is sayin cod2 sucks without anti-cheat
but.....................

as soon as they add it. they will all want hacks for the new ac.

[gil]

I'm talking about those who discourage public releases since they have hacks themselves.

[Feared]

DMW is fully functional right now. Here are screenshots from the IWnation forums. http://www.iwnation.com/Forums/index.php?showtopic=18164

"Should be released by x-mas"

[babo]

but this is a new version.. are you sure it will be bypassed easily??

more about how the new DMW works

Here are the features that we can offer with our Scanner/Client software combination:-

* Written in x86 Assembler and C++ for stability, speed and security

* Uses DMW's own exe protection and anti debugging systems

* Integrates with DMW server side ready systems, for full server control from anywhere in the world

* Fully automated system, no configuration, no messing, no hassle

* Automatically detects running of any supported games

* Automatic updates individual files as soon as changes are made

* Full OpenGL and DirectX intelligent hook and modification checking

* Full kernel and user mode API hook checking

* Full game CVAR and option protection

* Shared memory, Drivers, Kernel mode and Windows flaw checking

* Kernel and user mode memory scanning for game and system files

* 512bit Advanced DAMPT© File checksum algorithm

* Dynamic 256bit Cross Packet Encryption system, for highly secure transmission

* Advanced heuristics for detecting future variants of cheats

* Tried and tested with 5 Major selling games and over 100,000 users

* Software run over 21,000,000 times

* In-game menu system

* Sever-side automated client Screenshot with player id overlay and fingerprint system

* Unique hardware identification system.

* Over 1,000,000,000 files scanned

* Supported by all major leagues

* Full international support team

lets see how long it takes to bypass this baby

Wow will it do my laundry too? Im happy to see someone with such high expectations with there work just hope they dont fall too hard. Another group of dev scratching there heads. There have been anti cheats with pages and pages of will do this and that... What happens to them? They get raped like the others.

WTF are u on there are public bots available right now!

i think its a good thing AC as it will stop most noob cheating, and as for private hacks we'll yup u guys can keep them to yourself but u never know 1 day when u least expect it you'll get caught lol and hopefullly it be when your using your skilled aliased nics ;-)

personally i dont cheat and dont really mind cos i still usually pwn anyways lol :-)

I still ask what your doing here? uhu uhu ima lost pawww and i dont cheat i just registered ona cheat forum so i could keep up to date pawww honest. Your cool can we be friends? NOT!

As to the spam message im almost sure it didnt point to this site ;)

Guys look what i have found

http://www.fpsadmin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10359

This is Goodie from ECW..

Wanted to let you know that we have completed our anticheat for COD2 and bata well be ready for download later tonight.

This is a client side/server side anticheat that WILL stop all cheats.

The only down side is that you must update the cheats as they are released..

It will scan all process, folder, files, dll's and some things we wont talk about :-)

This is Serverwatch that ECW and Enforcer have worked together on.

So Cheaters beware!!

P.s I have set this up to do GLObal Bans. So cheat on one get kicked from all~

Webmaster@eliteclanwarfare.com

Capt_Goodinhigh

P.s. Please send all know cheats to above address.
P.s. will update Cheats list weekly. Updates avalable at www.eliteclanwarfare.com

i have found this on www.callofduty-news.de !!

Looking forward to bypassing this. I just 5PoRK3n that email so i hope he likes my cheat ;)

and i think this is just a f**king joke..

that you are talking about everyone needing anti-cheat
so you can play.

but as soon as they do add it.
every one will want a new up-dated hack.

people only want ac, so others cannot cheat
so they can win easier
and to add anti-cheat will cost lots of money...

if u wanna play true mp games.
dont use the pc.

To the only person who made any sense in this thread. I never imagined such tolerance here with antis im surprised these nubs are still lurking around. Let us play , let us cheat , if it wasnt for us most of you anti cheat and game devs wouldnt know your head from your asses.

A final word to the Antis and Game Devs who lurk these forums.

#1 You only stop what is public.

#2 If we wanted we could do worse things to your games/anti cheats than use an aimbot or radar or wallhack.

#3 Find another line of work, there are 14 yr old kids around here that could outcode some of you!

PS: last i remember these were cheat forums and not ANTI CHEAT FORUMS!

Yours Truly
[DD]V|K|NG-babo[PT]

[BlackDove]

Feared - if DMW was fully functional right now, a free public version would be released that has the same cheat detection as the pay version. The only difference is that some minor features are left out.

Looking forward to bypassing this. I just 5PoRK3n that email so i hope he likes my cheat
That's been out for a while all ready. It is so simplistic, it isn't even worth bothering with. We had this discussion on EC previously. Save your nC / EC elitist propaganda for another site. It has no use here and I cannot recall any work you've ever done.

[babo]

It has no use here and I cannot recall any work you've ever done.

You should visit the UT section more often. Since your reply resorts to work ive done and you may also want to visit www.tacopscheats.com in case you have any doubts as to the work i do or have done.

As to the Propaganda? The spam message pointed to elitecoders not mpcforums i was merly stating that and correcting our friend who posted that information.

I am not here to have a spat with you or to be insulted by you. I am disapointed in Your attitude as to your statement " I cannot recall any work you've ever done ". Another form of elitisim!

[Virtuosofriend]

Both of you are valuable assets,please hold your horses :P.BlackDove try not to attack anyone if he hasnt made a hack for CoD series.For instance babo is top member in UT communities,like DD and Elf.that means sth dont you think?

[BlackDove]

BlackDove try not to attack anyone if he hasnt made a hack for CoD series.
It was not an attack, just an attempt to sway users from posting "I'm so big and so bad, your game will be crushed due to my !n$4nE |-|4cki|\/g skillz." Uscript and basic system tweaking are not effective methods against anti-cheat programs. If you are talented, it's best to be humble about it. Posting something like "we could ruin your game any time we wanted, be prepared to get a virus in your mail box" is just ridiculous. Without developers, there wouldn't be any games to hack.

[gil]

Just move on...
Focus on the subject. Assume that each side knows what he's talking about.

[babo]

Thats fine blackdove i agree with you on the attempt from keeping users from posting im so big im so bad bla bla. Im sorry i guess i was just surprised to see an anti cheat discussion in COD2 forums as there is already a Anti Cheat discussion forum maybe next time you should send users there to discuss anti cheats.

The rest of this post i have removed because there is no use in discussing skills with an ignorant person who talks about uscript and basic tweaking.

[BlackDove]

This thread was already moved to that section but I requested it to be brought back here because there is no definitive anti-cheat for CoD 2. If the anti-cheat that is used widely ends up being DMW, then this thread will probably be moved to the anti-cheat section where it will be out of reach from my moderation powers. Once it's there, feel free to threaten anyone you want with e-mail virii and brag about the skills of pre-pubescent coders.

Anymore posts that are unrelated to anti-cheat discussion will be deleted.

[testuser3]

pb WILL BE used in cod !!!


source: GGmania

Call of Duty 2 MP/Punkbuster plans

Activision and Infinity Ward sent us a press release announcing plans to release new multiplayer maps as part of a Call of Duty 2 PC update that will also include PunkBuster anti-cheat software and additional support enhancements. The download is currently scheduled for release in early 2006 and will be available at www.callofduty.com.

"Our team at Infinity Ward is committed to supporting Call of Duty fans," said Grant Collier, president, Infinity Ward. "We’ve worked hard to deliver the most epic and immersive experience ever with Call of Duty 2 and look forward to delivering new content such as multiplayer maps, tools and anti-cheat software that will further enhance the gameplay experience."

[wurzil]

pb WILL BE used in cod !!!


source: GGmania

Call of Duty 2 MP/Punkbuster plans

Activision and Infinity Ward sent us a press release announcing plans to release new multiplayer maps as part of a Call of Duty 2 PC update that will also include PunkBuster anti-cheat software and additional support enhancements. The download is currently scheduled for release in early 2006 and will be available at www.callofduty.com.

"Our team at Infinity Ward is committed to supporting Call of Duty fans," said Grant Collier, president, Infinity Ward. "We’ve worked hard to deliver the most epic and immersive experience ever with Call of Duty 2 and look forward to delivering new content such as multiplayer maps, tools and anti-cheat software that will further enhance the gameplay experience."


Tada - http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=announce.php

Merry Xmas MPC lads :D

[killzar]

Activision has contracted with Even Balance, Inc. to integrate PunkBuster™ Anti-Cheat software into the game Call of Duty 2 © by Infinity Ward.



lets see what happens now.
all the f*ckers who said we need anti-cheat will all come out now
looking for a un-detected hack.

as has been said b4 hypocrites

[herozero]

In lack of actions from Activision and IW talk of all these other AC system have risen to another level. But the only option is PB since the game is build for this to be supported. So when a AC is added it will be punkbuster.
The makers will have to bare the cost of such a system, very few server admins and even fewer users will pay money for cheat proctection themself, it allready costs enought keeping the servers open. So I would not worry about any other type of AC system.

When PB is added it will be in a patch from IW, and then all the publics hack out there now will be caught. The first week will be a ban party like no-other.. :laugh:

Herzero, statements like that confuse readers. Now in most release threads, people will be asking "will PB detect this hack?" when in fact, PB will probably not be used.

While the price of adding PB support to a game is unknown for a non-developer, it's probably very high. When people from the community are willing to create something for free (referring to game developers' budgets), why bother spending money for a program like PB.



oh score..
Told ya BD ;)

[RaoulDebie]

How about the Call Of Duty V1.01 patch, none of the hacks work anymore :S

[killzar]

dont see how.

i dont use public-hacks but mine still works.

maybe the rec has changed since its 1.01
but i dunno.............

[bigassownar]

I can't believe IW was pushed over by some whiny little kids :)

#3 Find another line of work, there are 14 yr old kids around here that could outcode some of you!
... your point ?

[matik]

**** , so my hardware ban will be back :( ?

[BlackDove]

**** , so my hardware ban will be back

Yes. Even though there may be alternative anti-cheat products, PB carries along with it all of its bans (both on the MBL and maintained by EB). No other anti-cheat can compare with a ban database so extensive.

bigassownar - I agree, but please don't troll or restart any arguments.

[Irish_Bandit]

guys i have downloaded some hacks such as 2cibot and sycore d3d. can someone explain any steps i can take to be completly sure that all traces of these hacks r removed from my system for when punkbuster is released

[killzar]

just delete them,
its as simple as that

remove any files u installed

[babo]

Yes. Even though there may be alternative anti-cheat products, PB carries along with it all of its bans (both on the MBL and maintained by EB). No other anti-cheat can compare with a ban database so extensive.

bigassownar - I agree, but please don't troll or restart any arguments.


Yeah PB is by far the best anticheat ^^ ;)

[Galaktikos]

Yeah PB is by far the best anticheat ^^ ;)
hahah .. Had to be it joke?
PB the best ? what cost? Programers Eb are helpless and shit of types invent HW banned ... prohibition of usage of programs anti-spyware - Laugh worth!
Eb that has to say can use for protection of computer me what but not?
For example, It is not may to use me, UniversalShield ... program for different purposes useful very, but pb It does not allow to use me from it during game on-line ... There is piteous yet!

[BlackDove]

hahah .. Had to be it joke?

Nearly all aspects of PB can be bypassed for those who know how to do it. For 97% of the other cheaters, the anti-cheat is a serious threat. The threat is not from new advancements in cheat detection; just bans aquired by those who are uneducated in cheating.

[babo]

Compared to other anticheats im sure most agree its the by far the best.

[herozero]

One can just browse the various MPC forums and see the effect of PB. Cant seem to find any public hacks for PB games what so ever. Privat hacks will as before bypass. As long as public hacks arent PB proof and considering the massiv database EB has, I would say that it is the best AC around..

[janlul]

Nearly all aspects of PB can be bypassed for those who know how to do it. For 97% of the other cheaters, the anti-cheat is a serious threat. The threat is not from new advancements in cheat detection; just bans aquired by those who are uneducated in cheating.

So PB is a good anti cheat, if it works for 97 % :x

[gil]

So PB is a good anti cheat, if it works for 97 % :x
LOL, it doesnt.

[dodgyguyno1]

One can just browse the various MPC forums and see the effect of PB. Cant seem to find any public hacks for PB games what so ever. Privat hacks will as before bypass. As long as public hacks arent PB proof and considering the massiv database EB has, I would say that it is the best AC around..

and i agree, also u never know they private cheats that bypass, might not 1 day ;-)

[RaoulDebie]

As long as I am playing allready undetected on all punkbuster servers I can't call it an ''anti-cheat'' ;), I heard some ruins that there will be a special system for the PB screenshot, so the admin automatically gets informed if theres something different in the screen of a player that plays in the server.

[gil]

As long as I am playing allready undetected on all punkbuster servers I can't call it an ''anti-cheat'' ;), I heard some ruins that there will be a special system for the PB screenshot, so the admin automatically gets informed if theres something different in the screen of a player that plays in the server.
That wont help when the screenies are clean right? ;)

[Irish_Bandit]

any news when the anti cheat is being released?

[RaoulDebie]

2 februari is told 2 me.....

[omgANTIcheat]

http://www.caleague.com/?page=files
download octinium.rar octinium anti-cheat

Octinium will be mandatory this for Week 3 matches so be sure you get the program and share it with everyone on your team. It is SIMPLE

For those who like to read!!!
Octinium was developed a while back for Counter Strike (I believe) as a screenshot anti-cheat tool. Basically it uses the printscreen function in conjunction with DivX creating an avi file after the recording session is complete. It is made to run on very low end computers and will not cause any lag whatsoever. This is a really cool program!!!

Read the readme in the .rar folder and if you need any help please DO NOT HESITATE TO TALK TO AN AC ADMIN. We have tested it and it works great as long as the avi is zipped up immediatly after the match to time stamp. No time stamp = match time = ban.

Please everyone drop by the files page and get this program. Spread the word. WE are doing what we can to try to stop or deter cheating at least until PB comes out.

Avi files will be requested randomly and for every dispute.
__________________________________________________ __________________________
Wall hacks and aim bots cant get around this, what this does is basically record what you are seeing.

[BlackDove]

Reminds me of random drug screening in professional sports. It's funny CAL isn't using DMW or that other AC that was supposedly being developed.

Glad to see that they are taking this measure since the popular opinion around here is that cheating in competition matches is lame. Too bad clans consist of friends who can swap demos with each other (providing some members aren't cheating).

This "AC" poses no real threat to cheaters outside of leagues since the average administrator of a public server will not be requesting demos from players.

I'll merge this thread tomorrow with the existing one.

Edit: Merged; also didn't realize they were just capturing screenshots instead of low-quality videos.

[Nseven]

octinium "anticheat" is just a screenshot tool, it makes pictures while your are playing cod2 and converts/saves them into an avi file, it makes pictures of your desktop too (bye privacy) :rolleyes:

try this:
- play with cheats bringt down console and record a gameplaydemo (/record) but don't launch octinium
- after the game is over, type /stoprecord and quit cod2
- now create a shortcut to your cod2.exe and add: ..CoD2MP_s.exe +demo demoname
- now launch octinium anticheat, select record and launch cod2 via shortcut but without cheats
- cheats are not visible in demos so octinium anticheat will make pictures of your "clean" demo ..

[herozero]

Nice Nseven that is really clever. Easy but yet so brilliant.. :D

[Roland2]

they require u to put the avi in a zip file, and time stamp it though.

[Nseven]

changing system time should do the trick

[hira]

haha old n7...he got ways for everything...nice 1..

[Conker]

does any1 know when pb will be released?

[BlackDove]

The common belief is in mid-February. You will need to download a v1.2 patch that will include PB when the time comes. Go to the IWNation forums - www.iwnation.com for a better idea or www.punkbuster.com (under CoD 2, look for "Coming Soon" to change to version numbers.)

[Conker]

lol, thats a similar time to Mohaa Reloaded, a patch for Mohaa that will essentially make it a new game again,

http://www.mpcforum.com/showthread.php?t=123293

thanks for the links blackdove

[Irish_Bandit]

when this new patch arrives will we have to agree to the terms and conditions of punkbuster r will it not say anything like that and if u go on a server and it says downlaoding files will punkbuster be downlaoded there and they when map laods it could say cheat detected and you are kicked and banned lol i had a dream last night were i went on server and said hack detected and i was globally banned and when i woke up this morning i didnt no if it was a dream r if it was real and i was dreading turning on the computer:P

[BlackDove]

The patch installer should have a form where you need to agree to installing PunkBuster before continuing. After installing PB, both the Client and Server should be disabled by default. Connecting to a PB-enabled server or manually turning PB on is the only way to activate the anti-cheat.

[killzar]

when this new patch arrives will we have to agree to the terms and conditions of punkbuster r will it not say anything like that and if u go on a server and it says downlaoding files will punkbuster be downlaoded there and they when map laods it could say cheat detected and you are kicked and banned lol i had a dream last night were i went on server and said hack detected and i was globally banned and when i woke up this morning i didnt no if it was a dream r if it was real and i was dreading turning on the computer:P


i say stop smoking/drinking so much.
am glad to say i never had a dream about a computer game.

patch will be released.
you will download it, accept the terms of use. & then u worry about cheats.


for now enjoy it when you can.

[Irish_Bandit]

anyone have any info on dwm anti cheat does it detect all cheats on this website?

[Roland2]

Theres a new anticheat thats going to be used for CAL called kaput.

http://forums.caleague.com/showthread.php?t=20364

I would like to know exactly what this does and how to bypass it, or if it basoically the same as octinium. It says there are some things it does that you're not told about...

Heres a chat i had with the creator over xfire:


: Hello
Jab: hi
: I have a question about the new AC, kaput
Jab: yea
: Is it true that it logs passwords/accounts ands tuff, or was he lieing?
: stuff*
Jab: hes a tard...i dont even know that kid or have the knowledge to do itJab: so yes hes lying
Jab: but uninstall and reinstall as a new version is posted in about 10 mins
: And does this zap alot of resources from the computer?
Jab: nope
: What does it do? Same thing as octinium, but locks the .rar so its not able to be edited?
Jab: u may feel a lag as if taking a ss every 20 mins or so
Jab: nah it does a bit more but i won't go in depth..it stays in the activision folder tho so nothing to worry about
: It only takes a screenshot every 20 minutes?
Jab: no..
: How would that help?
Jab: lol
: lol
: i thot thats what u said
Jab: just ignore that then..i was just saying u asked about lag or hoggin resources
: yes
Jab: the only time you will notice is once about every 15-20 mins
Jab: but i doubt it
: And why can't we know what it does? I dont feel comfortable dling a program that does things i dont know of
Jab: it stays in the activision folder..so nothing to worry about
Jab: its searching for hacks not passwords
: Does it search through all my files?
Jab: no
: only activision
: ?
Jab: yes t
Jab: yes
Jab: *
: So what would cause the lag spike every 15 or 20 minutes?
Jab: im not going into that. cal wants me to keep my mouth shut so it keeps everyone worried about what they can/can't get away with
Jab: so ask them

[unnatural]

wait, so if i had a hack on and pb came out, say it was dling automatically in a server and i didnt know about it, wuld i get hw banned? or do u have to get the patch off a website

and also, r there ways in servers where they can make a little AC things of themselves and record demos of u? like while ur playing with hack on. juss like the octanium AC thing

[BlackDove]

You must install the patch after downloading from a website. Game servers can transmit .zips, .rars, or .exes. Even if they could, there's no way they'd transfer you a file greater than 100 MB. Also, you must be shown the PB EULA by the installation or PB update program and agree to it before PB can be used.

If you never installed anti-cheat software, then there is no way of being "detected" for using a hack. The only thing an administrator could do is observe your game play, record a demo with the /record command, and submit it to friends of his who may also run servers. Demos recorded with /record will not show features like wall hacks, chams, or fog removal. Demos will show you looking at walls more often and firing through smoke / fog / dust and miraculously hitting enemies.

[unkn0wn415]

anyone know when PB will be installed for COD2...

[BlackDove]

...When the patch is released and you will have to agree to the PB EULA. It will also say so on the PB website.

[ncon7]

is there a bypass for octinium? I heard there was a way around it...

[BlackDove]

http://www.mpcforum.com/showpost.php?p=1153791&postcount=78

...or check one page before this one.

[Irish_Bandit]

when removing the hacks from my machine do i have to remove any dll file i downloaded into the system 32 folder such has d3dx7.dll? this was linked for people having trouble using the hack but is it part of the hack? and will pb pick up on it

[BlackDove]

You should replace any system files with the original versions if the hack required a replacement. By default, the hack would probably require you to place the D3D dll in the game directory (which can be scanned by PB) or the system directory. When replacing graphic files in the system directory, they also can be automatically loaded by the game and used as the graphics library (which PB can scan as well).

[Karasahin]

Oh, goody......

[gil]

Oh, goody......
Warned for pointless post.

[poulet28]

I think this PunkBuster edition is really good.
The hacks come out and after like 3-4 days I dunno he detects them.
This one is really good! But keep on working on bypasses, we will get him

[rikmeeuwisse]

If I'm going in a server. I can play like 5 à 10 seconds, than i get a massage:

blalbla dfsaf dffdf sa
you have been banned for (2 minutes)
by punkbuster (Multihack)

something like that

But i don't did anything wrong, I don't hack. And only I know the serial-number. I buyed the game in the store.

Does somebody know what I most do?

BlackDove says: user warned for spam.

[server123]

blalbla dfsaf dffdf sa
you have been banned for (2 minutes)
by punkbuster (Multihack)
something like that
But i don't did anything wrong, I don't hack. And only I know the serial-number. I buyed the game in the store.
Does somebody know what I most do?

See your own threat: http://www.mpcforum.com/showthread.php?p=1582013#post1582013

Don't spam the forum : read the forum rules.

[L1nk]

Didn't we all know that allready :P