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dule081
6th April 2006, 12:07
maby it will be stupid,but i notice that pb kick after example 2 min, i dont now how pb scan but if is it time can you make somehow bot with time limits,sory for my pure english
:)simple bot who will have some time triger or something like that,sry again if speak stupid things but if i dont now c++ i want to help in any way!

KizZamP-
6th April 2006, 12:09
what hack were you using when you got the kick?

dule081
6th April 2006, 12:16
what hack were you using when you got the kick?
-=FAA=-.dll when i am in game i start some detecded hack ,you can use this 1-or 2 min then get kicked but with 2 min you can kill a lot of people and disconect befor you get kicked

KizZamP-
6th April 2006, 12:18
yes that's because the faa triggerbot public hack uses a detected hook (detour on processevent).And since mpc doesn't support begging of hacks,you'll just have to wait :)

dule081
6th April 2006, 12:25
yes that's because the faa triggerbot public hack uses a detected hook (detour on processevent).And since mpc doesn't support begging of hacks,you'll just have to wait :)
???I am not begging for nothing yust i wos wondering can you coders make some bot with time envolved.
Yust a idea nothing else...if i can help it is nice.but if this sugestion dosnt have sence yust delete post.

KizZamP-
6th April 2006, 12:27
sorry i didn't read properly,i thought you were begging...but like,there are like say :"2 hooks" which are VERY easy,which are private,and if any of those gets given to a public hack,and it becomes detected,all private guys which made the hook themselves will have their own private DETECTED hacks too,some people think by that logic.

dule081
6th April 2006, 12:36
sorry i didn't read properly,i thought you were begging...but like,there are like say :"2 hooks" which are VERY easy,which are private,and if any of those gets given to a public hack,and it becomes detected,all private guys which made the hook themselves will have their own private DETECTED hacks too,some people think by that logic.
np man..i wos yust wondering is this stupid idea with time limits bot,nothing else.If someone can make that cind of bot i think that hook will be extremly dificul to detected.

KizZamP-
6th April 2006, 13:08
if it'd be an exe or dll which like,upon start/first injection it excutes code so it counts down until a few hours/days,and then SELFDELETE itself,it wouldn't even be any more difficult for pb...because pb either detects the hacks by using them themselves and LOG everything,or they detect hacks by using disassembly etc. and for the last method you don't even need to launch/inject the hack,since we do it on exe/dll in question directly.

Homer
6th April 2006, 16:23
well kizzamp i think you missunderstand him.
what he wants is a bot which works only 2mins lol..
Example:
He joins a Server with an detected bot. But the kick happens after 2mins.
So if he built in a timer which like disconnect him after 1min and 59 secs it wont kick him.
So he dont get a GUID or HW ban.. thats how i understand. ;) (k maybe i missunderstood too lol)
but playing only 2mins just to get some kills sound stupid for me ^^

-Homer

KizZamP-
6th April 2006, 16:33
lol that is kinda err,useless..who goes on pb servers for 2 minutes and then leaves ? if i ever go on pb servers,i go in there with all mein uber hex and fook em up bigtime.Mod can close this now i suppose.

dule081
6th April 2006, 20:46
well kizzamp i think you missunderstand him.
what he wants is a bot which works only 2mins lol..
Example:
He joins a Server with an detected bot. But the kick happens after 2mins.
So if he built in a timer which like disconnect him after 1min and 59 secs it wont kick him.
So he dont get a GUID or HW ban.. thats how i understand. ;) (k maybe i missunderstood too lol)
but playing only 2mins just to get some kills sound stupid for me ^^

-Homer
that will be super stupid thing :)to play 2 min with hook:)
no i yust want to say if pb need time to scan ,time can be one exploit,it yust idea, nothing more, if is it posible to trick pb with time.that will be nice.do you now how pb scan and how can you trick that,that is real question.thx and sory all for my english:)

SmokeZ
6th April 2006, 22:19
PB needs time to scan? maybe they do.. if you got the bot at the start of your memory im sure it will kick you faster then 2min.. dosnt matter what you do whit the "TIME"..

if you want to stay longer then 2min you need to hide it from the scans or just stop PB from accessing your memory..

how shuld that look like? Edit the pbcl.dll so it needs more time to scan ? rofl there is no time limiter when it shuld START scaning or whatever
just depands on your connection/hdd/ram speed

ok maybe there is a timeLIMIT for the scan process you just can set higher but then you still need to keep PB away from your memory -_-

aaothe1
8th April 2006, 08:38
PB needs time to scan? maybe they do.. if you got the bot at the start of your memory im sure it will kick you faster then 2min.. dosnt matter what you do whit the "TIME"..

if you want to stay longer then 2min you need to hide it from the scans or just stop PB from accessing your memory..

how shuld that look like? Edit the pbcl.dll so it needs more time to scan ? rofl there is no time limiter when it shuld START scaning or whatever
just depands on your connection/hdd/ram speed

ok maybe there is a timeLIMIT for the scan process you just can set higher but then you still need to keep PB away from your memory -_-


So are there currently any methods capable of keeping them away from memory? Such as encrypting or hiding the contents of the dll? Or will this result in a kick for user priveledge?

No1uKnow
8th April 2006, 14:59
So are there currently any methods capable of keeping them away from memory? Such as encrypting or hiding the contents of the dll? Or will this result in a kick for user priveledge?

well as long as they have access to the games memory theyll be there, however I have seen hacks that detect pbs scan and detaches its physical self temporarily.... I would never go to so much trouble -.- wouldnt even know yet how anyways.

it's easier just to use an undetected hook and code or copy paste some source for yourself.

cough*lscript*cough*bf2 section*cough*uc

Wizard2k
8th April 2006, 15:03
well as long as they have access to the games memory theyll be there, however I have seen hacks that detect pbs scan and detaches its physical self temporarily.... I would never go to so much trouble -.- wouldnt even know yet how anyways.

it's easier just to use an undetected hook and code or copy paste some source for yourself.

cough*lscript*cough*bf2 section*cough*uc

as long as they're working on our computer, where we have the power, we can, in theory, control pb totally...
though it's a lot of work to do this without glitches.
also, be aware that messing with pb causes a HW ban if they find out

Wizard2k

Fishbone
8th April 2006, 17:03
I read this thing at a other cheat-side..they want to test it.

EDIT: Its called "Multi-hooking"

No1uKnow
8th April 2006, 22:21
I read this thing at a other cheat-side..they want to test it.

EDIT: Its called "Multi-hooking"
ROFL is all I can say

I know what your talking about, I read that crap too when someone linked me to it, but of course we cant link to that site because its forbidden on MPC

Anyways, Let me spoil their little dreams, unhooking and rehooking every process cycle is not smart, and it will not avoid detection, and your hack is not gonna work unless you have some kinda uber cache method that would seriously hinder your game performance

lol sorry reverend :(

aaothe1
9th April 2006, 06:02
well as long as they have access to the games memory theyll be there, however I have seen hacks that detect pbs scan and detaches its physical self temporarily.... I would never go to so much trouble -.- wouldnt even know yet how anyways.

it's easier just to use an undetected hook and code or copy paste some source for yourself.

cough*lscript*cough*bf2 section*cough*uc

Sorry, but I know of lots of sources, but definately could not code a hook as I know very little coding. :( Also I sent you a PM about FAA registration, as I am having difficulty cause I didn't get an activation letter.(same username as here)
cough*no Lscript in BF2 Section that I can find*cough cough*