A new way to FORCE us to watch ads on TV... DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!

[luck777jojo]

A patent application has been filed in the US for a new technology that lets broadcasters freeze a channel during commercials so that people will be forced to watch the commercial without being able to skip it.

Philips, the company that came up with this technology, says that it thinks this technology might not be liked a lot by consumers so in their patent application they suggested that a viewer can avoid this by paying a set fee to the channel.

Personally I find all of this complete and utter BS, they say that this technology will have to built into TVs or a TV-top box, but… I mean if they go through with this, I’m just not going to switch TVs. They will have to force me to switch my TV by making it incompatible with the channels, and then they might as well pay for my new TV as well because they screwed this one up.

Read full story here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12407199/

[Sudden Death]

how can they prevent channel switching during ads? what if ur just flicking through the channels and one of them has an ad on and ur forced 2 watch it. Its stupid.. they wont put these into TVs because they will get a load of bad press and stuff..

thanks 4 the post =)

[Ping_pong]

Whoah! What a shit pattent. Imo won't buy the product.. If i want to zap i want to zap, not wait till the commercial ended and THEN zap.

[C-X]

hmm read this on another forum before ^^
u gotta be pretty stupid to buy one of those :/

[ihateacid]

hmm, love TiVO and my TV Tuner

[Shinosuke]

Sudden death, you're right.. what if i just turn on the TV, and the channel has ads, and I miss the first 3 mins of my show?

It's unfair.. it's not right.. yes, BUT.. they can have a come back.. a good one too.. "Dont like it? PAY US"

Hmm.. :x

[Skyline_R34]

If that happens I'll just turn to downloading shows. No commercials, no forced commercials and it's on demand.

[Dark Hacker]

Wow that would be really crappy... Watch EVERY commercial? ill just buy some TV Tuner cards and "modify" it a bit, so i can still skip them :P

[Shinosuke]

R34, i agree, on demand is good.. but one thing about TV is that.. I use to get to know about shows that I never knew before.. from flicking through channels.. like.. something new came out, you never got interested - maybe it had a boring name - or a lame name - but its actually good?

But seriously, if this comes into act, it'll really suk.

Is this for the US only? Or they planning it for the whole world?

[Dark Blaze]

how can they prevent channel switching during ads? what if ur just flicking through the channels and one of them has an ad on and ur forced 2 watch it.

Exactly so Sudden Death. That's what we all do mostly, we flick through channels looking for something to watch, coincidentally that channel might have ads on them. I just don't see it being liked by anyone.

If that happens I'll just turn to downloading shows. No commercials, no forced commercials and it's on demand.

That's what I think it will cause Skyline, yeah. I think it will just increase downloading of shows to the aggravation of the same people who are using this trick to give them more money, so I think eventually they will understand their stupidity (that last part is never going to happen unless they reach a point where they're risking declaring bankruptcy).

Also, I was thinking.. what if those people want to keep someone on a channel and not be able to switch? Example: Terrorists take over a channel and want people to direct their view on that channel or channels without being able to change.

Politicians want people to watch their campaign and not be able to change...

Anything that equals to more profit to them will convince them it's cool to do it because it's their tv station and we're just the people using their services so we have no say in it...

They are invading people's right of freedom of choice that way...

[luck777jojo]

Exactly so Sudden Death. That's what we all do mostly, we flick through channels looking for something to watch, coincidentally that channel might have ads on them. I just don't see it being liked by anyone.

well theoretically speaking they might have implemented a feature that will know if you're just channel surfing or if you're really watching that show... I mean the logic behind it seems easy...

if(watchingTime > channelSurfLimit)
lockChannel();

[Conker]

what a load of BS, this idea is completely flawed, as sudden said if you are flicking, you could be forced to watch a load of shitty ads and stuff

also
1) people will hack it, if your tele/digi box has some form of memory in it they will just make bypasses that will hack the ass out of it
2) if the system is installed into new digi boxes and televisions then people will just stick with their old 1's or again some hacker person will make a bypass
3) what is the point of forcing ads anyway, lots of channels have ads on at the same time anyway (in the UK anyway) all it does is make the ad get seen, woah that is really going to boost sales if it is advertising a load of crap anyway
4) this system will get a load of bad press, because it is basically preventing people having free choice about their television e.g. what they watch, if they do release this, i would not be surprised if some countries banned the system, there were mass online petitions and in the UK the matter would probably be raised in parliament

[k2db3]

right after i read the first post i started thinking, LETS HACK THE TV!!!! lol eventaully like in a dthread a read b4 there are going to be rl hacks and the world is gunna b hacking itsself!

[Couch]

Oh i'm sorry, but that would push me to pirate the tv shows I so dearly love. Failed Mischief on the TV producers part.

[gamepin126]

This is supposed to be a successor to the V-Chip (which oddly enough, only 7% of the TV buying public decided to invest in.) Fairly old news, I remember this back in like, December.

[scruie]

It was delevoped as a way to stop all these ppl with TiVo and Sky+ type boxes recording the programs and fast forwarding the adverts; remember that advertising goes some way to help to pay for TV companies and their programming schedules. Not all TV boardcasters have the luxury of the BBC and taxpayers buying licences to watch.

The system will never be popular and it will be the comsumers that have the final say; if a TV has this feature in it most consumers won't buy if they fully understand the implications.

@ Conker I highly doubt it will ever see the light of day in Parliment; if anything a feature like this will help out the BBC more than anything else and the commerical stations will have a bigger sway with the manufacturers rather than governments.

[Conker]

right after i read the first post i started thinking, LETS HACK THE TV!!!! lol eventaully like in a dthread a read b4 there are going to be rl hacks and the world is gunna b hacking itsself!
if you are on about my rl hack... its fake :D
@ Conker I highly doubt it will ever see the light of day in Parliment; if anything a feature like this will help out the BBC more than anything else and the commerical stations will have a bigger sway with the manufacturers rather than governments.
i think it would if enough people strongly protested it, its like how the Netherlands (i think, or was it norway or sweden) made file sharing legal and things like thepiratebay can exist legally, if support was strong enough the government might ban the system

[sintic]

ummmmm, i'm never going to buy anything that has the name phillips on it EVER again.

[Naitsrk]

what the ****? The US was supposed to be "free" and yet every single year more of our freedom is taken away. Whats gonna be next? DVD's with built in ads? Better yet computers with built-in popups that you can't close for 90 seconds... :lam:

[quin123]

In communist russia road forks jou!!
Uh Oh Lucky i live in canada. the best country in the world!

[Dark Blaze]

@ k2db3 : There are real life hacks, such as the gadgets people make all the time.. Just don't expect any Matrix kind of hacks... lol... Trust me, if there was a way to fly on my own, do ridiculous leaps and create things out of thin air, I would already be doing it ;)

what the ****? The US was supposed to be "free" and yet every single year more of our freedom is taken away. Whats gonna be next? DVD's with built in ads? Better yet computers with built-in popups that you can't close for 90 seconds...

Technically such DVDs already exist. They're just "film-related" to what you are watching. As for popups, I'm sure the developers don't want to die a gruesome death lol.

[Conker]

@ k2db3 : There are real life hacks, such as the gadgets people make all the time.. Just don't expect any Matrix kind of hacks... lol... Trust me, if there was a way to fly on my own, do ridiculous leaps and create things out of thin air, I would already be doing it

try my real life hack in the offtopic section :D and the god protect bypass if you don't want to be caught

[quin123]

try my real life hack in the offtopic section and the god protect bypass if you don't want to be caught-conker
Lol tryed it, seems to have some side affects but it works!

[ihateacid]

DVD's with built in ads?some VCDs and DVDs already have ads in front of them that u cant skip in a DVD Player[but u can do so with computers :D]

[quin123]

ya i have been noticing that very often, movies like 40yr virgin and stuff. thats why i stick with Scarface :) number of ads: 0

[CSSToolz]

And that's why I don't watch TV.

[scruie]

some VCDs and DVDs already have ads in front of them that u cant skip in a DVD Player[but u can do so with computers :D]


Actually some DVD players will allow you to skip past the adverts to the top menu (film menu); my Sony DVD player does - no more messages about downloading movies being theft for me ;)

The thing is with all these sort of developments they (film industry/manufacturers) are actually going to increase the number of 'illegal' downloads of films and purchasing of pirated movies as most have the adverts removed. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot...

[Conker]

some VCDs and DVDs already have ads in front of them that u cant skip in a DVD Player
yeah i've noticed that, and scruie it depends on the dvd, until a while ago my xbox could skip absolutely everything and jump to the menu, now (particularly with rental dvd's) you cannot skip (to the menu directly or by pressing next chapter) the only way you can go through them is by fast forwarding (on xbox up to 32x) but it takes longer as you have to go through all the ads (for other films) individually

haven't really noticed it with proper dvds but rentals are full of the shite, i used to like the fact that rental dvd's never had ads like videos but now they do

[bigbang]

easy solution, just dont watch tv at all.

[Sudden Death]

well thats a pretty stupid solution :)

so u got ur 15 posts now u gonna stop spamming news section?

[Conker]

rofl sudden, yeah don't spam news section with a load of shizz, actually read links and stuff

you remind me of me when i first joined... but then i didn't post solution, just a load of crap... didn't read rules :ohwell:

[TTTDEADTTT]

wtf
i swear they r mad
damn

lol anyways i dont watch tv alot
:P

[mike5a2]

so tivo wont work no more!?!?!?!?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH HHHHHHH

[Sudden Death]

Dont disobey MPC rules, orelse u get banned or warned, and we dont want that to happen....
:P

MPC Rules
read them so u dont get Banned from THE HEART OF HACKING, MPC !@#$

TTTDEADTTT Ur sig is all about the rules.. dont break the rules.. dont get warned.. read the rules here.. etc. etc. but have u read them urself? Because ur sig is at least 7 lines.. but I think its 8 or 9 I cant tell.. 6 lines allowed including blank lines. :x

[Conker]

yeah... the rules are sig can be no larger (in size) than six lines, if you do normal font, then that means six lines, if you do larger fonts like tttdeadttt did then they can't be bigger than 6 lines of normal text and tttdeadttt's is about 9/10 lines long