MoH, you decide. *Read*

[w0()7]

Cheating in matches is gay and looked down on. Also, I rather not read anymore posts saying ''hi i want the pandora bypass 1.4 so i can hack in matches thx email me 438@dsudf.net''
We have public servers, those are meant for fun and cheating wouldn't harm anyone. Although, a match is a time for fair, fun competition which cheating does not go with. MoH rests in your lands...

[roadw2k]

Yes, I agree with you w0()7. Cheating in public servers is fine. But in matches, like you said is "gay".

[Dofty]

WELL SAID W0()7!

Public servers are for the innocent fun and mayhem, ladder matches are for the friendly and fair competetion, leave them that way. Only reason anyone would want to bypass a client side anti cheat would be to cheat in ladder matches, this is both lame and proves you have zero skill.

Leave the ladder matches to good fair competition, thats why they are there. Keep the mayhem in publics please.

[N3O]

lets not turn this into a flaming war, u all know most of us agree with that or everything would be released.

[tiesto]

yeh i agree i could prolly figure out how to cheat in most matches but i always turn off all my mods and all my cheats for a match, it pisses me off when other people have them on and think they are special and l33t cuz they are hacking in a match against me...

[Ali_C]

oh ffs stfu w00t, no one cares about what youve bypassed, if u didnt want the spam you shoiuldnt have bragged about it and not released it so its ur own fault u fool.

[bleurgh]

Also there are a large number of clans who already cheat in mathes, its going on already so theres no point moaning about it

[Death Star]

Originally posted by w0()7
Cheating in matches is gay and looked down on. Also, I rather not read anymore posts saying ''hi i want the pandora bypass 1.4 so i can hack in matches thx email me 438@dsudf.net''
We have public servers, those are meant for fun and cheating wouldn't harm anyone. Although, a match is a time for fair, fun competition which cheating does not go with. MoH rests in your lands...

Well said I agree public servers for fun and clan matches good clean competition.

[jb1002x]

Public servers meaning non-admined servers.

I see so many posts here about people getting mad b/c they get banned when they do it to themselves. Dont enter a frequently admined server.

[o({})o]

Just a quick note to everyone in this thread, regardless of whether you did or didn't do it......

Flaming is against the rules. Don't insult other users, we are a community, not a class based social system :).

[Dofty]

not flaming just expressing opinion :)

[pick-lick]

hehe true but most puplic servers are anti-cheat protected but still no reason to go puplic if u want a bypass well make your own is all i can say

[ch34t]

can retribution be detected by pandora?

[w0()7]

Originally posted by Ali_C
oh ffs stfu w00t, no one cares about what youve bypassed, if u didnt want the spam you shoiuldnt have bragged about it and not released it so its ur own fault u fool.
What does that have to do with this topic, this topic is corncering MoH and match cheating. Damn, your pretty pathetic.

Originally posted by ch34t
can retribution be detected by pandora?
Wow, what does that have to do with this topic. Stick to the thread topic, and use the search feature. It should help you find your information.

Originally posted by bleurgh
Also there are a large number of clans who already cheat in mathes, its going on already so theres no point moaning about it
Yes we are trying to prevent cheating in matches, matches are for fun competitive gaming, not for cheaters. Some of us should make a anti-cheat that shouldn't be bypassed only for matches or don't release any more pandora bypasses, this is for the good of MoH.
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Also, ali_c, if you don't have anything good to say, keep your mouth shut. By the 6th grade you should of learned proper manners.

[jb1002x]

Well, there are a few pandora servers running, but it isn't enough to continue bypasses IMO. Pandora and force SS (mainly force ss) are the only things keeping matches mostly clean.

Why is the demand for a pandora bypass so high? The number of non-pandora servers far bypass the number of pandora servers

The only reason I could think of that people want pandora bypasses so much is strictly for cheating in matches.

It isn't like one day you are going to wake up and every public server on the face of the earth will have pandora running on it. I seriously doubt even in 3-4 months pandora will even bee on MOST servers. The fact that most people playing this game are computer illiterate (to get pandora set up and everything), all servers would be empty running pandora. Sure there will be a few pandora servers running, but nothing to get all worked up about. Go cheat in other non-admined servers.

[puker]

Damn peeps still at it huh!Everyone knows that the cheater elite will cheat in matches!Weather they admit it or not.Ill tell ya,its all fine&dandy to say I DONT CHEAT IN MATCHES!You sound very noble,lol.But truth b told,your talking out both sides of your mouth!Weather you admit it or not!

[SFWN]

Originally posted by w0()7

We have public servers, those are meant for fun and cheating wouldn't harm anyone.

Except the normal members of the public who paid £40 for a game they cant win coz lamers are cheating on them.

You people just dont have a clue do you. I post on quite a few other MOHAA sites and on every single site there are literally 100's of posts moaning about how MOHAA is ruined for them coz of the cheaters and that EA are B**tards for not implementing Punkbuster into the game. Many people including myself are now boycotting EA Games until they look after their customers.

Well done, you just ruined the best game ever. And for what reason, so you can say "look at me, i'm so great coz I cheated in a game".

Lamers.

[mellow-yellow]

Well woO7 it pleases me to hear you say that you think you guys should make something beneficial to the honest fair playing community, and if this happens then you would have put something back into my game for certain.
Because as the moment i'm totaly fed up with this game i love..reason beeing is i trust no-one.
As said in my thread, i just want to know that clan games are fair.
Thing is you see where im real fed up with mohaa because i feel cheated I may well quit the game because of it.
As also stated I have no objections to your cheating or any1 else but the fact is that every1 is going to leave this game and it will turn into as cookie said a matter of the best cheat wins.
Now i dont know and im not saying its your end goal but do you realy want to see every server empty and no ladder / clan games anymore?
Now this isnt aimed at all of you because i begrudginly admire your skills allthough i question how you use them skills.
Now i know i dont fit in with your regular members as im against cheating, but only in clan matches,so please the decent ones amongst you...try to come up with something for servers hosting clan games.
thank you

[Waffle]

Cheating in matches (and winning) or Not cheating in matches (and losing). So u chose not to Cheat ok so u feel good about yourself for a while. But on the other hand u lost the match. U could have won the match by cheating and nobody would have known. Whats to feel bad about? Its not like u will meet the person u just cheated on :D. So whats the big freaking deal do u feel that bad? I want u to decide because nothing will change my mind. I will always cheat in matches and no one will stop me! BTW if u havent noticed yet this is a cheating forum not an Anticheat forum :P

[Dofty]

Waffle you d*ck for most people it has nothing to do with feeling good about yourself, its the decent and friendly competition. If you want to run around and own and feel good about it for fun then thats for the public servers. The purpose of ladder matches is the excitement and the clean battle. People enjoy the competition and the battle of tactics and skill rather than the battle of who has the best cheats.

When people play in a match it is for the competition and enjoyment. When the match is for something I see no fun in knowing that there is a guy round the next corner, I enjoy the unknown and adrenaline, which is why I choose not to cheat in matches.

I don't give a f*ck if anyone thinks I'm honest and noble or not, I play the game so I have fun. Cheating in ladder matches is lame and boring, playing clean and fair competition in ladder matches is why they are fun. They should stay this way, and I as many others will continue NOT to cheat in matches coz we enjoy it, if you have a problem with this then take a spoon and eat my ass.

[SFWN]

Originally posted by Waffle
Cheating in matches (and winning) or Not cheating in matches (and losing). So u chose not to Cheat ok so u feel good about yourself for a while. But on the other hand u lost the match. U could have won the match by cheating and nobody would have known. Whats to feel bad about? Its not like u will meet the person u just cheated on :D. So whats the big freaking deal do u feel that bad? I want u to decide because nothing will change my mind. I will always cheat in matches and no one will stop me! BTW if u havent noticed yet this is a cheating forum not an Anticheat forum :P


HAHAHAHAHAH thats brilliant mate. I'm gonna post a link to this post on as many MOHAA sites as I can so all the normal people can see just how sad you are.

[PAS3I2]

Someone ban him please.....

[SFWN]

Originally posted by *[p]*
Someone ban him please.....

Banning me eh. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. So I wont be able to talk to a bunch of sad lamers who cant win without cheating.

Its not exactly a big punishment for me is it. Why dont you get a gang together and come round my house. Use your wallhacks and ring my doorbell then as soon as i open it you can have your little gang camped up over the road with aimbots and you can kill me.

[PAS3I2]

No, you get banned for being anti-cheater. You are one, and you talk trash, and should be banned for your annoyance

[Waffle]

Im going to shut up now cause this is just going to turn into a flame war between Cheaters and Anticheaters. You can think what u wanna think and that is just who we are. We all have different views on different things. That is what makes us individuals. If you want to express your opinion publicly go ahead but dont think people wont have something to say about it. So what im trying to say is think before u talk.

Dave

[w0()7]

Don't you have to be 13 or older?

Originally posted by Waffle
Cheating in matches (and winning) or Not cheating in matches (and losing). So u chose not to Cheat ok so u feel good about yourself for a while. But on the other hand u lost the match. U could have won the match by cheating and nobody would have known. Whats to feel bad about? Its not like u will meet the person u just cheated on :D. So whats the big freaking deal do u feel that bad? I want u to decide because nothing will change my mind. I will always cheat in matches and no one will stop me! BTW if u havent noticed yet this is a cheating forum not an Anticheat forum :P

[CcSoccer777]

wow.... you all are acting like a bunch of two year olds.. oh my God... grab ahold of yourselves... *big slap for each of you* Now, if you want to continue discussing this, do it in a civilized manner.

[jb1002x]

I'm not anti-cheat, and i'm not cheater.

I could really care less. I have fun playing this game without cheats. Thats just me. I'm not going to come here and flame you guys for cheating, thats what you wanna do.

The matches are for clean hard competition. If you lose without cheating then you lose. If you win by cheating then you win along with the rest of the moh ladder community knowing you cheated because with so many old school clans, they can and will tell if they've been cheated on a match. And soon enough there will be proof to get thrown off the ladder.

Sigh. MoH is in the hands of hackers really. EA wont do anything, Anti-cheats are good for matches but you guys make bypasses left and right for them so. Its up to the hackers here.

Over half of the community in MoH (....the world) most likley dont cheat. Thats my personal opinion. The cheaters are like a minority in this game, and the minority is starting to take over. If all these bypasses are released, then not only will the minority take over in the general moh communiity, but the clan community will be dead and filled with a bunch of cheating clans, thus destroying the game completely. (until another anti-cheat is released that will save it for a while till someone makes a bypass).

Atleast, leave Pandora and the Force Screenshots alone. Force SS is already being used in 2 ladders that I know of, and pandora will most likely be used in 1 (maybe a couple more). Thats the only thing to keep matches almost 100% clean.

You make the call.

[Death Star]

Originally posted by SFWN



HAHAHAHAHAH thats brilliant mate. I'm gonna post a link to this post on as many MOHAA sites as I can so all the normal people can see just how sad you are.

Just ban this guy he is just all talk. Man he is just a kid that "cheese wines" to much.

[mohaafreak1]

I agree with him on everything he said. YOU CHEATERS RUIN THE GAME ;)

Seriously i dont care if u cheat or not, it will just piss me off at first on a public server but not that much. but when i see a cheater in a match i just feel like ripping his head off.

Look at my title, it says it all :D

[Dofty]

Pandora or any kind of client side anti cheat that will ever exist will NEVER become active on all public servers.

This is to be a fact for as long as the game will go on. Few clan servers that remain public may run the anti cheats but this will only belong to the huge clans that will fill up servers with their own members. Other publics will never go running client side anti-cheats due to n00bs to the game aswell as connection and server search programs such as All Seeing Eye and Gamespy.

This being the case, peoples motives for wanting bypasses for these client side anti cheats is solely based upon the desire to cheat in ladder matches. As we have established this is both lame and truly shows lack of skill, dignity and fair competative play.

Leave the cheating fun and meaningless mayhem to the everlasting none admined public servers, keep the ladders clean and fair.

Amen and peace out.

[PAS3I2]

It really has been said enough. We all understand, yet there are only so many that say these things. Mostly creators and people that hang around, but how many of those are there? ANd how many cheaters? The thing is that there are hundreds that dont post, only download that could care less about the integrity of matches. Most of theses moochers im sure would cheat in matches, and that is why it is so prevalent. Places like UC now give these to noobs, with even more anonimity.

[w0()7]

Yea thats what sucks don't you think? What would help this game, is if some great hacker (issix, cookie, ccsoccer, N30, some others) would make a anti-cheat for the ladders and make no bypasses. I participate in ladders, though I disable my cheats. Its not fun to win with cheats, ladders are for fun, competitive fair matches not for cheaters. If someone doesn't do it, I will try to do it myself. I love this game and I don't want to see it die...

[virussss]

Originally posted by w0()7
Yea thats what sucks don't you think? What would help this game, is if some great hacker (issix, cookie, ccsoccer, N30, some others) would make a anti-cheat for the ladders and make no bypasses. I participate in ladders, though I disable my cheats. Its not fun to win with cheats, ladders are for fun, competitive fair matches not for cheaters. If someone doesn't do it, I will try to do it myself. I love this game and I don't want to see it die...
as soon as they have a anticheat that they know we cannot bypass , its gonna be on as many servers .. it will totally desroy us eventually... or create a anticheat with a bypass.. and never release it ...hmm

[w0()7]

Nice warning points, *cough*. If thats what you want to see, MoH die because of this little silly fight. Compare this to the iraq shit, this is pathetic. If their is MoH ladders, their will be MoH teams that would want to compete fairly. One by one, teams retire and soon MoH becomes dead. Don't let such a good game die over such a silly fight.

Originally posted by virussss

as soon as they have a anticheat that they know we cannot bypass , its gonna be on as many servers .. it will totally desroy us eventually... or create a anticheat with a bypass.. and never release it ...hmm

[virussss]

Originally posted by w0()7
Nice warning points, *cough*. If thats what you want to see, MoH die because of this little silly fight. Compare this to the iraq shit, this is pathetic. If their is MoH ladders, their will be MoH teams that would want to compete fairly. One by one, teams retire and soon MoH becomes dead. Don't let such a good game die over such a silly fight.


not to be disrespectful or anything , but your childish , when you learn something come back , you want to create a anti-cheat that cant be bypassed .. and there is NO way that servers will ignore it and use it for matches. Most server admins hate cheaters , why do u want to give them a break? and why do you disrespect other cheaters? you anti cheat or something?

EDIT- And you dis warning points?? one of the BEST hackers you have ever seen has over 6 warning points.

[w0()7]

Nien im not the one with the worning points. I am only anti-cheat when it comes to ladders and I hope everone here is. Ladders are for fair, competitive, and fun play.

[virussss]

Originally posted by w0()7
Nien im not the one with the worning points. I am only anti-cheat when it comes to ladders and I hope everone here is. Ladders are for fair, competitive, and fun play.
best thing youve said all day, but i still dont agree with the anticheat , unless we keep ALL the bypasses private .. hmm

[w0()7]

Most of the anti-cheats can be bypassed by anyone with a bit of time and half a brain.

[Elac]

Please close this. This has become a flame/spam war.

[MJM]

agreed

[silvaraptor]

I totally agree. About the pandora bypass if u wanted that thats mainly for matches and pandora of course helps keep it clean. But i feel the forced ss doesnt u can turn cheats on and off (well most of them) so just keep it off or something until u feel its clean. Sorry if i sound noobish :S (first post hooray)

[w0()7]

Originally posted by Elac
Please close this. This has become a flame/spam war.
You should stay on topic and shut your mouth if you don't have anything good to say, maybe that will help prevent those 11 warning points.

Originally posted by MJM
agreed
Unuseful posts are not needed here, go to alliedassault forums.