Jet Li -VS- Jackie Chan

[DarkCloud]

Which person do you favor more?

[Machiko]

me

[DarkCloud]

ofcourse I would favor you =P

[luck777jojo]

personally I'm going for Jackie Chan.... I know Jet Li is an awesome "martial arts actor" but.... I kinda find Jackie Chan's movies alot more entertaining, and since I know didly squat about martial arts I can't say if he's worse or better then Jet Li in that aspect.

[WILLARD]

jackie owns all, the cartoon r0x0r j00 b0x0r, lol jp.... but chan is the best :P

[bigtimestuff]

For a serious movie=jet
For funny movie=jackie

cant youv understan the wors that are comin out ma mouf!

[Felix]

Jackie Chan pWnZ but when in doubt, you gotta go with Machiko ;)

[Machiko]

as far as these two guys seriously, I like jackie chan. I like alot of his older movies too.
He's a decent actor too. I mean he's believable in most of his films. Plus his delivery is cool.

[Da BuzZ]

Jet Li - Cuz he 0wnz bad.... I like his movies more than Jackie Chan's

[[MPC]UnKnOwN]

The truth is that Jet Li would OWN jacki chan...Jet Li is a master in the art of Wushu which imho is a badass martial art...i just think Jet Li is badass period...


edit: but in the end Machiko would kick all of their asses

[Machiko]

i was picking jackie as actor vs actor not off screen. Jet kicks ass but he doesnt have as many styles, ninjtisu would own him. Jackie would fall too. People have so many misconceptions about ninjitsu though due to bad films.

[DarkCloud]

hmm... I like jackie chan's chain whip style. So few people know that style.

But I like machiko though :p she knows how I feel toward her :D

[Da BuzZ]

Originally posted by [MPC]UnKnOwN
The truth is that Jet Li would OWN jacki chan...Jet Li is a master in the art of Wushu which imho is a badass martial art...i just think Jet Li is badass period...


edit: but in the end Machiko would kick all of their asses w3rd !

Jet Li in 'Romeo Must Die' when he was 0wning with the hose... liked that...

[DarkCloud]

yeah

Jackie Chan had a horse shoe at the end of the rope and used it exactly like how a shoalin monk would do with a chain.

edit:
Chain Whip is a shoalin art.

I'm still betting my money on Jackie Chan against Jet Li

[[MPC]UnKnOwN]

yeah ill agree with that...as an actor i enjoy Jackie more...but off screen Jet is teh pwnage

[Machiko]

jet li did that with a rope in another film, forgot which it was. I ninja would kill him right there. I think this sayoc kai system which is new to me but i am learning it, since im semi-proficient in bladed weapons, is really strong. Especially if you know many styles already it could be inochi ni kakawaru

[DarkCloud]

Offscreen, Jackie Chan is very proficient in weapons as well as so many styles. So i'm very sure Jackie chan WILL own jet li

However, if it was an all out between Jackie Chan, Jet Li, and Machiko.

I'll go triple or nothing on Machiko. I'm very confident she'll win but probably Jet Li will be the first to go.

[Da BuzZ]

I think Jet Li was champion for 6 years in a row in some style i cant remember... so i think he would 0wn Jackie..

[Machiko]

i know most of what jackie does. he uses hapkido, he uses drunken fist(style) which i use myself, sil lum - shaolin style. Snake(i use), dragon(i use)and crane . Only weapons style I have ever heard of him using was fencing to tell you the truth. I thought the rest was ad libbed. I remember see his biography on biography (ever seen this show?). I only remember fencing. Maybe there is more, thats all they talked about. I dunno, and i actually saw a few films where he fenced.

[[MPC]UnKnOwN]

I agree with Da BuzZ...Jet Li was a Wushu champion since he was 12

[DarkCloud]

That's going to be definitely a tough match between jet li and jackie chan.

*still bets against Jet Li*

If you look at the game of Tekken, the character Lei Wulong reflects jackie chan. I also believe Jackie Chan uses the Preying Mantis, Panther and Tiger.

[Da BuzZ]

I'm still going with Jet Li...

[Machiko]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
That's going to be definitely a tough match between jet li and jackie chan.

*still bets against Jet Li*

If you look at the game of Tekken, the character Lei Wulong reflects jackie chan. I also believe Jackie Chan uses the Preying Mantis, Panther and Tiger.

i havent looked in details at his style, im very happy with my own and i try not to learn bad habits , not that he's doing anythign bad, but I have my own "moves"- I know he uses the crane for sure, everything i stated was what he said himself on biography so I am just quoting him. You might be confusing the crane with the southern praying mantis. Alot of those styles have SMALL differences between them and they share allot of the same specialized similarities. Like for example, you can see it totally in the starting stance then the chain punches and rounded shoulders (stance). elbows held close to the body protecting the ribs, stance tight for protecting vital lower areas the usage of fast striking power and the phoneix eye fist.

Most people can't pick it out unless you've done it. Ninjitsu (alone) but for agruements sake throw in Jeet kune do grappling, and you will own jet's style coupled with the chin-na sub-system shuai chiao.

Anyway if you wanna talk about this stuff with me we should on in person darkcloud. You know I'm willing to teach you as hard as it is for me to teach people because of certain reasons.

[DarkCloud]

Thanks, I'm honored by your offer. I appreciate it.

[bigtimestuff]

That would be one hell of a pay-per-view fight. I bet itd make about 10 times a tyson fight. Maybe when their movie careers are all washed up well get to see them duke it out on FOX celebrity boxing :P

[Elac]

lol...niiice. Jet Li would obviously own Jackie. Sure Chan's got the humor but Jet Li could own him. In the end...i would own all...because I know joodeknoow.

[luck777jojo]

well this thread was started about who is better in movies so I gotta go with Jackie Chan, no way could Jet Li be better in movies then Jackie Chan is.

[Machiko]

yeah there you go. lucky sees it as I did. jackie chans movies do better at the box office. I thought as well this was about the movie actor. Jet Li couldnt act his way out of paper bag. Jackie Chan has alot of Charisma and is very funny and also serious at times. he's a good actor and makes entertaining films. That matrix-like rip off(special effects) movie Jet Li did "the one" , has some of the worst acting ever, wasn't impressed with the martial arts in it either ( the real stuff not the wire work- dont think Yuen Wo(wu) Ping, did it)and what a joke the last scene...they play papa roach, a freaking junior high school mainstream band haha. Jet has no pesonality. Chow Yun-Fat showed more personality in Replacement Killers(king and I, crouching tiger), Michelle Yeoh in Tomorrow Never Dies(crouching tiger), and Jackie Chan in Rush Hour. These are all great action stars who showed some ability on their first American tour -- Jet Li's made four films in the U.S. and still no personality to be seen.

[[XLC]GhOsTFaCe]

Originally posted by bigtimestuff
For a serious movie=jet
For funny movie=jackie


!yes

[luck777jojo]

personally I enjoy the last part of all the Jackie Chan movies (with the bloopers) also, I've heard this from several sources, Jackie Chan usually does alot for his movies, like c'mon they shot the entire last scene of "rumble in the bronx" with him having a broken leg..... I'd have to say that shows that he does more for his movies then most others do.

[Felix]

Well, Jackie is a better actor. He adds humor which entertains people. Also, his movies include other funny people. He is more of a humorous actor. His best movie = Legend of the Drunken Master :p

[Machiko]

Originally posted by luck777jojo
personally I enjoy the last part of all the Jackie Chan movies (with the bloopers) also, I've heard this from several sources, Jackie Chan usually does alot for his movies, like c'mon they shot the entire last scene of "rumble in the bronx" with him having a broken leg..... I'd have to say that shows that he does more for his movies then most others do. yeah i like that about him too. He seems dedicated to finishing things up and doing it for the fans. You see this now with a few movies such as Keanu Reeves with The Matrix Reloaded, and him putting his own money back into the project because they were going to scrap it because of the high cost on the effects. Did you read that article (it's all over the net) at all? I think things like that and things like you mentioned Jackie doing are great fan appreciation as well as seeing a film through. He seems like a really great guy, just from interviews and body language he projects when he speaks in interviews. Those out takes are always funny too.

[thevilone]

Jackie Chan :D , shame his game sucked

[DarkCloud]

I love how jackie chan has such strong determination. Even if he does injure himself, he takes it lightly. He's an awesome actor and makes every movie he makes golden.

[Felix]

Yea, no matter how many times he falls, everytime he gets back up. He probably took his life into his hands over 10 times. Im sure Jet Li has too, but still, Jackie Chan is the greatest.

[bigtimestuff]

Im gonnna rent THE TUXEDO tonight and see if its any good. Jennifer love Hewitt= can handcuff me anytime. Anybody seen it yet?

[DarkCloud]

The tuxedo's story-line sucked! Martial Arts were decent. But it lacked originality and tasteful story line.

[Mr_Cairo]

Jackie Chan is a lot more of a comedy actor - and hes great at it, and some of the stunts he does himself are truly amazing, even just the stuff where hes climbing impossibly high walls with ease or getting down from high places awfully fast. he owns .

but Jet Lee also pwns

i luv it when Jet takes on about 20 guys and owns them without trying. Twin Warriors is hilarious and has amazing fights. also "kiss of the dragon" he walks into a room with like 25 French Police Martial Artists - then procedes to go through them like a lightsabre through.. well through anything.

Jet Li is getting really good as an actor - and the "Romeo Must Die" and the new one ( which i cant remember the name of) those are kick ass films - Hip Hop Kung Fu Flicks PWN

[bigtimestuff]

Yha those hiphop kung fus are getting better. Id like to seem them progress towards more pluasible plots and serious acting with some comic relief so they can be taken more seriously. Cause its fun to watch a movie with bad acting and alot of explosions for a cheap thrill but ints even better when you can believe it and are surprised.

[DarkCloud]

Has anyone seen Jackie Chan's Gen-Y soldiers? not exactly sure what's the name but its similar to that.

[bigtimestuff]

No wahts that about? I saw the TUXEDO and overall gave a thumbs up for action fans. Has a very cool Sword Fighting scene where he dices up shit like a salade shredder. The begining scence thoguh theres a deer that pisses in a stream and u have to watch from the perspective of the piss as it goes down the stream and everythings all yellow and the opening credits come down. Very pointless and tasteless. Unless of course your using the piss for something important like pissing on saddamm.<<<<<< hehe.:p One thing taht would make it better was if he had a stronger nemisis. He nevers seems to be cahllenged as hes tearing everone one to pieces. I want to see a Jean-Claude stlye movie with Jackie in it where he gets beat and bloodied all to hell and then comes back to whoop ass!:chinese:

[DarkCloud]

oh then you haven't seen the legend of the drunken master. the same thing also happens in rumble in the bronx great movies

[bigtimestuff]

Oh yah i have i guess i just forgot. The last few ive seen like rush hour, the tuxedo, and that cowboy one he didnt seem to get too beat up. Wahts the one where he goes down the mountian in that bubble thing? You can really do that yah know fer a couple grand.:confused:

[Malicious]

Chan is the shiz. I read somewhere more about how he does all of his stunts... Then I read how many broken bones he has... A LOT!

[Titan Zeus!]

OMG jet li ofcourse, did you see "The One" lol.

[bigtimestuff]

I thought the "one" blowed monky goats. bad effects~ unprovocative storyline~ no acting
but i thnk if your in a fight jet li wins. he just looks meaner. More physically imposing etc... and plus he won all those tornaments. Has Chan kiked any ass in real life?

[retarded_jedi]

"The one" is like "Hero" (the movie about a swords man, pun not inteneded) [ the tai chi bit in "The One" ??? i mean wtf was that ? that bit was not good at all. and i saw the movie 3 times so maybe thats just me being bored by the slow bits...]

The martial arts in the movie do not have the same , how one say, "impact factor" as Jet's other movies.

i am a jackie's chan's fan, mainly because i think he combines humour and martial art really well.

[DarkCloud]

same here.

the one was pretty impressive in "awe" factor but it was pretty strange in some parts. But I'm pretty sure Jackie Chan is willing to deal with the pain and by that, I'm pretty sure he doesn't fear death [especially if you saw how many near death stunts failed].

So I believe Jackie Chan can bring on the pain hehe

[masterc]

Jackie Chan is more funny

[bigtimestuff]

Vin Diesal would pwn them both :p

[DarkCloud]

Vin Diesel? hehe

He's another chuck norris :p

[bigtimestuff]

Haha Chuck Norris. He was one of the most unlikeliest action heros ever. He seems like he should be selling insurance or something:p


Haha jk about vin diseal just tryin to get some incredulous reaction:D

[Felix]

Vin Diesal is the worst actor ever. I am sorry, it had to be said. :p

[luck777jojo]

he's an actor now??? whoa I just thought he waqs a guy who got those movie roles because of bribes :p

[Felix]

Well...yea...I was flattering him :p

[Machiko]

Originally posted by ~WoRLD
Vin Diesal is the worst actor ever. I am sorry, it had to be said. :p

I have to agree with you. He sucks across the board for everything. Plus it isn't fun watching him either.

[bigtimestuff]

Lol "sucks across the board" jeez the way you talk about this guy youd think he was a terrorist or something. Why dont you just drag him out into the country and beat him with rubber hoses. ;p

[luck777jojo]

hmmm.... I'd much rather preffer lead pipes ;) :p

[bigtimestuff]

now yur talking :p Add some mobsters and cocaine and your halfway to having a Goodfellas 2 script:cheeky:

[NightNinja]

I can't believe i didn't see this earlier. In any case i am ignoring all other messages, Jackie Chan ownz, end of story :)

[Felix]

*agreements*

[dragon-lord]

jet li !!

[bigtimestuff]

I just watched rush hour 2 on DVD and it has a very cool special features where you can watch the making of scenes and stunts etc. Jakie Chan is straight mad some of the stuff he does. One stunt hes doing flips and gymnastics on some scaffolding 80 feet up in the air off the side of a building. No ropes or anything. Crazy.:eek:

[Machiko]

i like the lead pipes idea Lucky, but I rather see jackie chan just kick this Vin Diesal's(who sucks across the board) ass. Then maybe Jet can beat him(Vin Diesal - who sucks across the board) down with some bad acting too heh.

[DarkCloud]

hah! lead pipes? aww... then he would die too quickly :( :p

the fights in Gorgeous was awesome but the story line sucked! But hey, I rented Gorgeous for fight not for story lines hehe I loved the fighting scenes because there was honor and respect for the opponent.

Give Jackie Chan Boxing gloves and padded boots and he still would beat vin diesel down in a matter of thirty seconds hehe

[Machiko]

Vin Diesal - who sucks across the board, needs to get a good ass kicking. He was lucky he got a small part in saving private ryan, and I'm happy he died there...and that should have been the end of his career in hollywood.

[luck777jojo]

he shouldn't have been in hollywood at all, and that's the end of that.

[Machiko]

but he was. They were looking for a stunt double for Arnold Schwarzenegger's ass. That's how he got in. Actually was between Vin D and The Rock.

[DarkCloud]

Yeah, well both of them can't even act. The Rock is only good for taking in hits and faking blows. Even then he sucks and blows at it and he isn't even keeping up with his physical fitness anymore!

[bigtimestuff]

The only reason the rock ever got a movie role was because of all his closet case wrestling fans who like to see him greased up in a speedo:p Ive seen animatronic robots do more sincere acting than him.

[DarkCloud]

If you want to see really really good martial arts and if you're a HUGE fan of the matrix, go watch the movie Shaolin Soccer lol

[bigtimestuff]

Shaolin soccer lol waht is that a spoof or something?

[out.DarkCloud]

The only way I can describe it is Soccer + Matrix = Shaolin Soccer! You really have to see it!

[bigtimestuff]

....k ill check that out....For a good Martial Arts movie: try
Kung Pow enter the Fist. Its lol. Save the whales.

[Da BuzZ]

Originally posted by bigtimestuff
....k ill check that out....For a good Martial Arts movie: try
Kung Pow enter the Fist. Its lol. Save the whales. Oh plz :p He's making fun of old chinese/japanese movies... :angry:

[Machiko]

Who was that guy in the film though. He looked like he was related to the principle in Scream i think it was , or was it two? The guy that was on that old old show about the 60's. I don't know much about it but I know his face.

[Da BuzZ]

Steve Oedekerk if you're refering to Kung Pow

[bigtimestuff]

Originally posted by Da BuzZ
Oh plz :p He's making fun of old chinese/japanese movies... :angry:

No No im Serious:cheeky: :beard: that movie slams. Its not what you would call a "traditional" martial arts film but cmon those guys have some wicked moves! Yah I think that steve odercarrot guy plays the lead role of the white ninja, but the best character is the evil chinese guy. Im gonna have to buy it cause I only got to see the last third of it. Its definelty a classic. :p

[Machiko]

yeah the guy da buzz said. I wasn't too familar with him but i remember the trailer for this movie you describe bigtimestuff. There was a cow doing Matrix bullet time, with milk out of its utters at the guy leaning back like Neo, right?

[bigtimestuff]

Yah i think so but i missed that part thats why i wanna buy it.
Its basically a comedy though.

[DarkCloud]

hehe it has so many great moments especially when a dude says, "I wanna know if I have that gift too" hehe

[bigtimestuff]

man im going to have to until the 12th until its on HBO again
:( Who thinks Bulletproof monk looks good?

[Machiko]

it wasn't that good. Average...to me. Maybe you'll like it. Comic book from like 1999, was alot better.

[DarkCloud]

It was pretty good. The action scenes weren't that great if you took away the special effects. But overall, it was pretty good. Not matrix or Jackie Chan good, just good.

[Turna]

jackie chan can fight in real life as good as he does in the movies, i'd like to see Jet Li fight how he does in real life

[DarkCloud]

hmm... very interesting point... most of Jet Li's fighting from wha I saw are mostly mixed with effect and seems kinda add-libbed...

[bigtimestuff]

ah i think he was the champion of some styles national tournament for many years. But has Jakie Chan ever won big touranmets?

[MrSmily]

I would say that jackie chan is more wise cus he is older so he win :)

[nightmare]

Jackie Chan cant fight better then Bruce Lee!

[MrSmily]

bruce lee would pwn jackie chan :D

[nightmare]

Whats pwn?

[bigtimestuff]

Well Jet Li was the champion of the Loopy-Loo style or something for many years and Chan didnt win anything so I think Jet would win. And Lee would slam them both at the same time. :p Oh and pwn is when you wear a balarina outfit even if you are not a real balarina.

[**DP**]

Chan wins. They both speak lousy english, but Chan is the only one I understand.....

[nightmare]

Originally posted by bigtimestuff
Oh and pwn is when you wear a balarina outfit even if you are not a real balarina.


I dont get it all?

[bigtimestuff]

Unless you are swing dancing with an elderly person while you are wearing the ballarina outfit. Then it is not pwn. :classic:

[DarkCloud]

uhh.... *scratches head*.... right

I would have to say you get pwned when the score is 100 to -25, you got the -25 because all your grenades back fired on ya hehe

[nightmare]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
uhh.... *scratches head*.... right

I would have to say you get pwned when the score is 100 to -25, you got the -25 because all your grenades back fired on ya hehe

LOL,then you are really a pwn.

[bigtimestuff]

Bahahahahaha!

[nightmare]

Originally posted by bigtimestuff
Bahahahahaha!

LOL

[bigtimestuff]

HEHEHE! ok ok ive had enough fun. Pwn isnt when your wearing a balarina outfit it means to own somebody or to beat them. If you just pwned somebody you are the winner. If you just got pwned you are the loser. Understand now?:bunny: :classic:

[nightmare]

Originally posted by bigtimestuff
HEHEHE! ok ok ive had enough fun. Pwn isnt when your wearing a balarina outfit it means to own somebody or to beat them. If you just pwned somebody you are the winner. If you just got pwned you are the loser. Understand now?:bunny: :classic:

Yeah,I thought all the time it was with that ballerina!

[meuh]

i say chan
he is an old fart now and he is still doing all those movies without any computer animation nor stuntman

[luck777jojo]

well...... he's not THAT old, so.... I dunno

[nightmare]

Originally posted by meuh
i say chan
he is an old fart now and he is still doing all those movies without any computer animation nor stuntman

Bruce lee beats the shit of chan:cool:

[DarkCloud]

Bruce Lee would beat up any of the people up on the list and including today's newest martial art stars.

[nightmare]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
Bruce Lee would beat up any of the people up on the list and including today's newest martial art stars.


God bless ya,bruce lee rules!
(I dont mean to spam)

[bigtimestuff]

K how about Jean Claude Van Damme vs. Jakie Chan?
Keep in mind Jean Claude isnt no Vin dieseal now. His moves are real.

[meuh]

good point bgs but chan is more entertaining :D

[bigtimestuff]

bgs? its bts! or big, time, or stuff. er any comb of those. Or you could just call me SupremeKingSexGodOhYahBigDaddy if you prefer. But that might get akward. Anyways I think Van Dame would karate kik some Jackie chan ass.

[nightmare]

Originally posted by bigtimestuff
bgs? its bts! or big, time, or stuff. er any comb of those. Or you could just call me SupremeKingSexGodOhYahBigDaddy if you prefer. But that might get akward. Anyways I think Van Dame would karate kik some Jackie chan ass.

But what would happen if bruce and van dame have to fight against eachother?Who would be stronger?

[luck777jojo]

oh man Bruce Lee would own his a*s

[bigtimestuff]

Bruce definelty whips his as$

[SPYDERYDER]

Jackie Chan all the way. I hate that cable flyin BS that Jet Li does all the time

[Syphon]

I dunno, that bit in The One is great when your stoned.

Bruse Lee is phat

Jean Claude (a.k.a the muscles from brussels) is phat in Street Fighter when he does that Tekken style backlfip-kick.

[nightmare]

Originally posted by Syphon
I dunno, that bit in The One is great when your stoned.

Bruse Lee is phat

Jean Claude (a.k.a the muscles from brussels) is phat in Street Fighter when he does that Tekken style backlfip-kick.

Why do you call him the muscels from brussels?

[Syphon]

He is from Brussels. He is muscular.

Like magic.

[nightmare]

Originally posted by Syphon
He is from Brussels. He is muscular.

Like magic.

Does that guy come from brussels????? Damm I never knew that! You learn something new here every day.
Where is bruce born? Japan or China?

[SPYDERYDER]

Originally posted by dutch freak


Does that guy come from brussels????? Damm I never knew that! You learn something new here every day.
Where is bruce born? Japan or China?

This is a thread about Jackie Chan and Jet Li. If you continue to go off topic this thread will be closed and you will be banned.
LOL....jk

in reference to our asskicking moderators

[Felix]

Dutch, I dunno. It might be Korea though.

[Machiko]

You know in the 70's there was a martial artist/actor who they called a "bruce lee clone", named Chan Sing-lung (means- Already The Dragon). This guy did a bunch of films that all sucked bad. The studio who backed Sing-lung thought he had no talent.

Then Yuen Woo-ping came (aka wire work guy that created Wuxia Pian, as seen in many films, from john woo to the Matrix movies) to work with Chan Sing-lung, because he totally believed in his abilities. They came up with a new version of Bruce Lee, the total opposite. Where Bruce Lee was invincible and would always win his fights, Chan Sing-lung was an imperfect fighter that was barely getting by and getting beaten quite a bit.

The film these two did I think in 1978, was called Snake in the Eagle's Shadow. It was a huge hit. It made more money then any of Bruce Lee's films ever did. It was at the time (before Crouching Tiger) the most successful Asian film in movie history. This move brought about a new genre in martial arts film, both Yuen Woo-ping and Chan Sing-lung created - featuring perfect timing, HIGHLY dangerous stunts and a bit of comedy.
BTW - Chan Sing-lung's English name is Jackie Chan.

[bigtimestuff]

Originally posted by Machiko
. They came up with a new version of Bruce Lee, the total opposite. Where Bruce Lee was invincible and would always win his fights, Chan Sing-lung was an imperfect fighter that was barely getting by and getting beaten quite a bit.



ooo surprising:classic: so your saying jakie chan used to suk alot at martial arts or he just acted like he did? Reminded me of that guy in Kung Pow for a second who was trained as a joke to think that getting his ass kiked was winning:)

[DarkCloud]

hehe, wow, didn't know jackie chan had movies that went that far back. I guess he is really that old.

So he used too or still sucks at martial arts?

[nightmare]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
hehe, wow, didn't know jackie chan had movies that went that far back. I guess he is really that old.

So he used too or still sucks at martial arts?

How many movies does he got then?
And I wonder how old he is.

[bigtimestuff]

hes 40ish. Made like dozens of movies though. Dont tell me youve never heard of him either :o

[Machiko]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
hehe, wow, didn't know jackie chan had movies that went that far back. I guess he is really that old.

So he used too or still sucks at martial arts?

he doesnt suck. the point of that history lesson was his first set of movies didnt do well, he was trying to mimic bruce lee exactly. That didn't work for him. Then Wo-ping came along and directed him in a way similar to the movies he does now, which is not Bruce LEE, it's Jackie Chan, his style, his own way. Just reread it if you have to.

[DarkCloud]

Oh, ok now that is much more clear to me. So he has been in the movies for much longer from what you say

[Machiko]

everything I wrote in that other page is the story about his start. His first movies where then, and he is still making them now as you know.

[DarkCloud]

Yeah, I was wondering if he started his movie career knowing all the martial arts he knows now or he learned with time.

[check your box]

[Digital Sinner]

i think neither, although jet li is younger and may have an advantage over the older jackie chan but anyways they are two very good martial artists

[nightmare]

Originally posted by bigtimestuff
hes 40ish. Made like dozens of movies though. Dont tell me youve never heard of him either :o

I heard of him but I am suprised he already is that old!

[o({})o]

Jackie Chan because his movies have a plot..... (A real one that is).

[bigtimestuff]

well i wouldnt say that either of thier movies have fantastic plots, but jakies probaly are more interesting.

[Granhammer]

Wont choose between these to guys, because they both are making good movies but different kinds.

[PrettyH8M4chine]

jack chan is a funny guy, but jet li is more serious in kung fu, or what ever u want to call it

[bigtimestuff]

Eh hem..I believe the correct name is Loopy-Luu. yah ty.
But i think we played out jakie vs. jet, so who would win in:

Chan
vs.
Tyson

[luck777jojo]

I think tyson would bit off something but jackie would still come back to win ;)

[bigtimestuff]

hehe i dont know though if tyson got in an uppercut it could be lights out cause hes so strong. But I did read somewhere before about these chinese masters that only weighed lik 90 pounds, but they could get slammed with a log and barely flinch cause they were so balanced or something.

[DarkCloud]

If Jackie chan can walk off from falling off the building, then you definitely know he could take in an uppercut from tyson. But I would predict that tyson's uppercut would get countered or caught by jackie chan and reverse it against tyson.

[bigtimestuff]

Yah either way id pay alot to see that fight hehe.

[Machiko]

tyson doesn't have speed of a martial artist, at least this one. His strength would be used against him.

[PAS3I2]

Depends, how many pinball machines are nearby? If there are more than 2, than jackie easily owns Jet Li, but if there arent any other random pool hall objects, then he might be in trouble. You all know what im talking about. ;)

[Harvester]

Nah Jackie Pwns all he uses vectors like me he uses the best and only the best:

20 6 2 = pwnage

[bigtimestuff]

Originally posted by ~!]Ap0calyp$e[!~
Depends, how many pinball machines are nearby? If there are more than 2, than jackie easily owns Jet Li, but if there arent any other random pool hall objects, then he might be in trouble. You all know what im talking about. ;)

:P hehe good point. If you put them in a ring, Chan might be in trouble. Fast or not his punches might not even phase Tyson's thick skull. :p

[Machiko]

they teach you techniques (not mainstream street plaza dojos but real ones), that could kill someone in one hit. You can teach yourself. For me, I fight big guys all the time and I prefer to stick like glue yet I move very fast, so I don't get hit. The trick is to reading body language and having over a dozen styles to work with. It's hard to explain in writing but easy to show. A few spots I could easily hit especially on big guys, they are wide open. Some spots can cause a heart attack, others death or brain damage or simple temporary paralization. Chin-Na , joint manipulation combined with speed(my own version of the style), this I use, takes out the big "strong" types, Breaking stone and wood is easy, grabbing an arm from a slow punch that depending by size and judging by tysons size takes 4 times the amount of energy then a punch I would throw, is easy. Shuai chiao - bone dislocations. A simple spinning hok kick (kickboxing) would take him out. It's used primarly on the back and side of the head. Easy to dodge the swing too which can put you behind him(this is all done at once while his arm is still raised), tiger claw technique, force shoulders as his arm is lifted, launching him face first into the ground. From there one kick would end it. I could write 1000 variations of what if he did this or that. It's not a problem. I wold be more scared of someone trained in these things, then mere boxers with vin diesel intelligence.

[PAS3I2]

You forget the ancient art of Pinball Machine Death. It is practiced in dojos called "pool halls" and uses various areas and parts of a pinball machine, one of the deadliest weapons on earth!, to bonk people on the head and shins with 3 Stooges Force! The ultimate in the deadly kung fu arts. Jackie Chan is the master of this technique, and that is why he owns all.

lol

[bigtimestuff]

HAHA!

Originally posted by Machiko
they teach you techniques (not mainstream street plaza dojos but real ones), that could kill someone in one hit. You can teach yourself.
Yah now thats what im talkin about Machiko! That sounds sik. See thats what I was talking about a while bak with the pressure point move to the neck that puts them out for awhile ( but not kill them!:confused: ). I used to have this book called killer death moves or something, and it had all kinds of tricks like that. From using your fingers like knives, from a palm to the nose move that would crush the brain, and even to this one guy who ate all this really rotten crap and would wipe people out with his breath. Hehe.

Man the people I would take out of i knew some of this stuff... :devious:

[PAS3I2]

The hand to nose thing doesnt work, its an urban myth.

[Machiko]

depends what you have packed with your punch, weapon would work. I'm talking about a point to do with the arm can kill someone easily, especially people who punch over kick and slow or big people are open to it. Breast bone points too, base of skull if struck right I think the person would hope for death over a wheelchair life.

[DarkCloud]

are you talking about accupressure points? [I'm not sure exactly what it means] there are spots all over the body that even blocking one of those attacks could be hazardous. there are about 16? I think on the lower arm.

I would definitely think that martial art style, the only options available to you are, parrying, dodging, or go on the offensive. I would strong advise against offensive.

[luck777jojo]

talking about killing others...... emmmmmm........ could you please end this conversation, I don't want to be a "party pooper" but..... c'mon it's not very nice killing someone :p

[DarkCloud]

Umm... well, let's just move this convo in the direction of umm.... sparring.

In such martial art exhibitions like sparring, I would definitely not use pressure point. for the reasons said above. Too dangerous and well... fatal.

[bigtimestuff]

Oyah yah i agree.
Killing....Bad
Asskiking.....Good :p

Do you do martial arts too DarkCloud? I took Karate for about 5 mins. in 4rth grade but quit cause i thought those balerina like motions were gay (I was young). Only fighitng to my credit is drunk brawling, sometimes with friends. But ive always been interested in getting bak into it.

[SolidusSnake]

Originally posted by Machiko
Snake(i use)

SHE USES ME SHE USES ME :D

[bigtimestuff]

Hehe i missed that post. I wonder what that meant.:cheeky:

[SolidusSnake]

She said in like 3th post, she uses snake, dragon, etc.
All kind of fight technicus I think :)

But offcourse she uses me :) Im a fighter !!
*giggle*

[bigtimestuff]

hehe i wanna learn the one where you throw people off who come at you, cause i was always real good at going off balance and thowing other people off balance at sports like Kill the Man ( kinda like aussie rules). I think that ones called Judo? or something. I once let somebody do that move on me where you punch at them and they take your arm over their shoulder and flip your ass on the ground. It was fun, didnt even hurt. ;)

[Machiko]

Originally posted by SolidusSnake
She said in like 3th post, she uses snake, dragon, etc.
All kind of fight technicus I think :)

But offcourse she uses me :) Im a fighter !!
*giggle*

Snake FIST

[Felix]

Originally posted by SolidusSnake
She said in like 3th post, she uses snake, dragon, etc.
All kind of fight technicus I think :)

But offcourse she uses me :) Im a fighter !!
*giggle*

Just a question..but whats 3th?

I've been listening to more CKY recently. That = ownage.

[SolidusSnake]

Originally posted by Machiko


Snake FIST

Machiko I have a VERY big FIST :)

Originally posted by ~Felix


Just a question..but whats 3th?

I've been listening to more CKY recently. That = ownage.
3th = third

[bigtimestuff]

Originally posted by ~Felix


Just a question..but whats 3th?

I've been listening to more CKY recently. That = ownage.

:hah: hah you think this is the music thread i think.! :) But since you said that im still d/ling that promiscuous daughter song btw!

[Machiko]

Originally posted by SolidusSnake


Machiko I have a VERY big FIST :)


3th = third



Snake fist is a style, i'm not talking about you. fist size doesnt matter thats not where the power is coming from.

[SolidusSnake]

Lol dohhh I know your not talking about me :) I am just kidding around ^^

[Felix]

Originally posted by bigtimestuff


:hah: hah you think this is the music thread i think.! :) But since you said that im still d/ling that promiscuous daughter song btw!
Yea..I thought this was the music thread. Whoops...

Lol..promiscous daughter is messed up lyrics, but the gutairs are sweet.

[DarkCloud]

Hey people try to keep on topic.

I want to see if someone can teach me the mui tai style of kick boxing. That's some powerful stuff.

I also want to learn how to do the shaolin style of chain whip that Jackie chan did in that one movie...

[Machiko]

just learn ninjitsu and a few others I told you, mui tai and manrikigusari(s) won't hold up to it unless the person they you fighting is Ben Affleck and his choreographed moves in daredevil. Brute force never wins.

You know there's a counter for that chain with a simple fan. yes fan fighting, the yagya ryu kata can take out anyone especially since most fighters don't know it. You can take a sword fighter down. In fact I have seen in crouching tiger actually a method kind of linear with that was used (but fan fighting technique can be applied as a framework to just about any items. It was poorly done I thought and the weapon wasn't a fan but similar in size, again he wasn't trying to kill with it or even win , just defend or embarass so it wasn't shown in all its magificant glory. It's more beneficial if you relay on speed and grace when you fight. Easier to learn in China, but the Japanese have a better foundation.

Also there's a reverse move the defender of a "chain attack" can do to destabilize and control it, so in seconds - if you are the user you could easily find your own weapon wrapped at your throat,

[bigtimestuff]

Wow she seems like she really does know alot about the martial arts. :bunny: Machiko, you ever get in any bar fights? I bet you would scare the hell out of some people doing that stuff you described above hehe. Anyways I came across that shaolin soccer movie you mentioned DC. It looks very interesting to say the least!

[Felix]

/me runs away.

[DarkCloud]

I saw in some old bruce lee movies, there were several fan style fighters.

I know there was a movie and perhaps a game that had people who used fans to fight. In Mortal Kombat [yeah, I know bad reference,] Princess Katana uses fan like blades.

I would love to learn ninjitsu and perhaps spar with you some time when I do learn it.

Quite obviously, you're going to beat me with it but in time, the more I spar with you the more I'll know how to apply and use ninjitsu.

[Machiko]

I've gotten into more fights then I can count, adding to all the training, I fought almost on a daily basis for 16 years, now it isn't as much as that, maybe 3-4 times a week right now. Fights - I actually seek them out, it's the ultimate high to me. If you saw me, you wouldn't think I fight, unless you have an eye for picking up on it. I have so many things I do, and I really only display to people the one's I love the most which are my art and my own vanity. I don't go to bars, I go to clubs every weekend (to play music...i don't chose it as my hang-out ). No fighting there, people just come for the music or the stage performance (the guys come for that). I mastered extreme balance years ago(extreme because see below), so now I can fight in my boots without falling at all. (see below - won't show you the whole photo unless you donate 100 dollars)

[DarkCloud]

Hmm... not sure if I saw that pic below. But I believed that extreme balance was for such things as taking direct hits and absorbing it.

[SolidusSnake]

*PAYS 100 DOLLARS* Show me :)

[Machiko]

no actually it's so I can perform certain attacks and land on my feet without falling as well as use gymnastics. I rarely take direct hits, mostly grazing blows which do nothing. My #1 priorty when I spar unless its with a good friend, is to take the other person out without them landing a successful strike. I block it all and attack back dirty. Usually I am really agressive from the start, so there isn't much time for someone to really react to what is about to happen to them unless they are trained too, plus the way I dress when I fight, is a distraction tool. Fighting regular people (mostly everyone on the street, and I consider people who trained in the dojo in america next to 7-11 as useless) is too easy. Their swings have this much experience behind them = 0
Their eyes have seen this much experience = 0, their minds, their posture, their funny clown tricks like picking up a baseball bat or anything nearby is a big mistake for them = 0

Last week, i was sparring with jess, she had a Tamo, and I got cut in the arm. I treat it myself, first aid is part of ninja, I had my uncle give me the shot though afterwords. I also cracked a rib too on friday. First two times in a long time I got hurt..it didn't stop the fight but my focus was off because of a few problems.

[Harvester]

"MUHAHAHAHAHA" laughes Harvester

*Punch, Punch*

"Harvester gets knocked out.;x"

[DarkCloud]

Hey come on now. Keep the spamming and the fights clean. I don't want this to turn out bad.

Right now I'm training myself to increase my hand eye cooridnation as well as increase my speed. I kinda look forward to sparing with you Machiko, but I know I'll be down before it reaches even 5 seconds in to the round.

But even through the bruising and through the injuries, I'll learn and improve as I do with most things as you've seen. But I seem to never be able to match up with you, No problem.

[Machiko]

well I think dedicating the one life you live to something for all your life like I have, deserves the rewards you reap, I take it all dead serious.

I dedicate myself deeply to many things, but sometimes you can get ****ed over too. it's sad too because your heart can break in that instance, and there's no defense for that unless you are cold and unfeeling.

[DarkCloud]

I defintely do not want you to feel that Machiko. You know I would never do such a thing to you. I do not want to see that ever happen.

There is someone I dedicated my heart to. I glad my heart is where it is right now.

[Felix]

An online romance..

Im definitly scared of Machiko now..I don't think I'll roam the bars in Chicago.

[Machiko]

nah DC lives right by me, when I am in Chicago.

[bigtimestuff]

Srry DC i thought shaolin soccer was pretty lame. ;) But lame in that obvious way that actually makes it funny. :) It made me smile. Hmm this big romance you guys got goin makes me wonder if I should try one of those onling dating things for fun. Alot of peeps use them now. Neways that subject was off topic so... Hmmm.. How to learn to kik somebodys ass who is trying to beat me up tha fastest? lol. Wahts the fastest art to learn that does the most effect in your opinions? Im more of a lover than a fighter so I cant really dedicate my life to cold training. Like i said before, my coaches tell me I have good balance so maybe something involving that, but since you are so serious in this area (especially Machiko) I really value your opinion. Thanks. :)

[Machiko]

I learned in a certain order, the first was ninjitsu and then down the line all the others.
From what I heard the way ninjitsu is taught now (not in japan) isn't the same way at all. From what I gathered about it, they skipped 80% of the things I learned. Then again they are training people for different reasons. There's a huge range of skills that modern teaching doesn't use because I think they consider it illegal. Plus they don't want to teach you to use it for what it was meant to be used for, thus you wouldn't need to learn all the self first aid, archery and various weapon skills since they are not needed to fight in a "friendly" competition.

I will ask some people I know who trained publically in america. I learned everything in Japan privately. It's alot different. Kinda like private tutor for something in school, as opposed to a classroom scenario. I still think even the Ninjitsu they teach at public dojos would be more then effective against your enemies. From what I have seen, they still teach you the most fun and useful thing, which is to fight against multiple opponents at the same time, and that is most useful when you are outnumbered, which is almost always the case with people who really can't fight. They need friends to back them up since they are weak.

Half the stuff I learned they don't teach anywhere I have seen. Thing is once you get one style down, and you become confident you could be self taught if you are that serious about learning new styles or unlocking the deeper levels of what you have already learned, that they won't show you. Jeet Kune Do can be learned alone...I learned with a friend. Work on getting extremely flexible too. I also don't know your size, to say what might be beneficial.

[DarkCloud]

The first art I ever delved into was the art of pressure points. I mentioned this before but I really haven't gone totally indepth with it.

I want to see if I could learn that art first then move onto ninjitsu. Hopefully, I'll have two teachers that will be willing to assist me heh.

I've been trying to hand at open palm striking and mui tai boxing. I know brute force isn't the way to win, but those are the arts I'm as close to ever being familiar with.

Probably not in depth as I would like to be, but I do my best to work on it.

[bigtimestuff]

Hey thanks alot for those insights. Im actually kindof of psyched to learn some stuff like this. Thats very interesting about the ninjitsu as yor starting point. I guess if its geared towards defending against multiple targets it makes sense, because most non-staged fights do seem to end up that way to me. Also im making a guess here but is this the art that say, Ninjas are trained in? Thats too bad they dont teach the first aid as much in america cause it seems it could be very useful for self sufficience. Does Ninjitsu involve stealth training also? I just come up with this from the Ninja idea, and how they are supposed to be able to be very silent sometimes. To say the least the idea of learning something like ninjitsu is very intiguing, as it sounds rare to me, and I actually dont know if there are any training areas where I am(central Illinois, Peoria). The last course i found in my area was Tae Kwon Do down at the YMCA which probably is lame. Im sure there are better instructors around though.:) As far as my size I am around 6 foot, 170 pounds. And Im wearing black silk boxers and no shirt..haha no j/k. that must be habit. :) Those pressure points you talk about are very intesting too DC, but are these legal to use/teach? From waht was said earlier they sound like they can be deadly and I def. dont want to kill anyone. Mui tai boxing...hmm I think I might have glanced a documentary on that once. Is this the one where you rack your legs against hard targets to strengthen them up? Ouchie. Kindof like Kik boxing? Well it all sounds very alluring to learn but im sure id have alot of practice ahead of me to really learn anything competenlty. Can Ninjitsu or at least some useful aspects of it be picked up pretty quickly? thanks for pointing me in the right direction, it sounds like fun. :p

[Felix]

Originally posted by bigtimestuff
And Im wearing black silk boxers and no shirt..

You scare me. Even if you are just kidding ;)

[Machiko]

Well there's alot of things you can learn, and I'm sure which is taught now-a-days or is allowed or not:

grapple skills like Jutaijutsu, Taijutsu, really graceful movments used to to counter/evade against peoples strength or speed. Hichojutsu- jumping/ leaping, I've seen they teach different types of footwork involved with this, best way I learned, might not be the best way for you. Ukemi is basically things like handstands, cartwheels and dropping and falling techniques. This like everything varies I would say from what I have seen, teacher to teacher, and is going to be different I am sure then how I was taught. I wans't taught to follow rules, and limits. Certain acrobatics are just too dangerous.
Koshijutsu (dc might like this) which is striking at certain muscles/nerves/points.
Kuraidorijutsu. basic thing you will learn.

Koppojutsu which is breaking bones, one of my favorites.

Hensojutsu - camouflage ...this one I've seen taught different ways, but camo into the environment is basically what it is all about. THey say ninjas wear only black but it's not true. You would wear whatever works with the environment around you.
Henosojutsu and Shinobi iri which is just stealth and disguise, really important with Intonjutsu, which is concealment, many types, even in plain site you will learn to position yourself to hide anywhere at anytime, and this follows through with escaping (if needed)

Kenjutsu teachs you all the sword skills and Tantojutsu is knives, although I think the sayoc kali system is better..if you saw the movie the hunted, all the knife fighting in there is what you would learn with SKS. They teach you hort sword too and i forgot what it was called, but I never liked or found it useful, my weapon skills I use are throwing ones more so then swordfighting, like SHurikenjusu etc
My biggest and most fun is Kyujutsu which is Archery, and I love it (not sure how dep they teach you this if they do and if you actually get the chance to use it, like I did (not on real people of course) and firearms as well. There's also a bunch of pole, spear, staff techniques I went thru but I never used again or care to. Seems like they might be getting popular though because of film.

There is a bunch of rope and chained weight too , not something I really got into. See for me I took the things that stood out most to me and I had a teacher that was amazing, so I was able to start with ninjitsu and go into many other styles. I prefer the fan fighting over using chains and pole/spear combat.

That was all basically what I learned just with Ninjitsu, that isn't the other styles at all. I could tell you about those but this might be a bad place to, just because its too much information.

I was taught basically above all not to let the mind stop, just to let go-
WHen you first notice the sword that is moving to strike you, if you think of meeting that sword just as it is - your mind will stop at the sword in just that position, your own movements will then be undone, and you will be cut down by your opponent. This is what stopping means (is).

That helped me alot with everything I do, all art. I just think it's like turning on a lightswitch. You don't think about doing it, you just do it. Thats how you should do everything, thinking conjures up hesitation, you think at that point in a situation you should just KNOW, and you can make a mistake. It is the mind hitting a brick wall, stopping. Limits.

[bigtimestuff]

Yes that sounds familiar. The mindset part, of continuing a motion or following through on an instinct. Basketball is like that too if you keep moving you wont open your mistakes to the opponent for long and if you do it can only be used as a distraction to suck them in and then you take the ball to the hoop or swipe it away etc. In running, track too with not letting doubts about pain and fatigue seep in, a huge part of success is the mind. So although this may be a little different I kind of see where your coming from on that. I was also kind of reminded of some zen ways of being (to just do it without actually thinking) but I dont know if this influeneces the arts you were talking about.

Wow. Thats a pretty extensive list of arts there. And u already know all these things?! So it seems that Ninjitsu is actually the combined knowledge of all these different techniques hmm. Thats alot to learn but i like that you can take one at a time. The grappling sounds like it would be very useful as defense. The Koshijutsu sounds very fun to me too, and reminds me possibly of that finger to the neck move. Koppojutsu: breaking bones! nuff said. That would be instant gg* if I knew how to do that ;P. How long did this one take you to learn? Out of all those you listed the 3 i mentioned sound the most fun/useful to me (Grappling, Koshijutsu, and Koppojutsu). The jumping is interesting also i kind of have an ability in this area, but the handstands and cartweels could look like a joke if i tried them. I never could do a handstand for more than a second, but then again I never really practiced at it. The stealth/camoflouge you mentioned sounds very cool, but maybe would be more of a bonus for me after I learned the fighting skills. I did see the movie the hunted and the knife fighting scene was so sic. I was really on the edge of my seat for the fight scenes in that movie. The traps he made too were really interesting to me because i had learned to make some of those at a survival camp. Neways the Knives would definelty be too much for me since i would really like to avoid getting arrested. ;) same with archery(although ive tried and it is fun), and the polls/staffs. Ropes may be interesting(I tried cowboy roping once hehe), but overall it would be nice to just know how to use my body as a weapon/defense. How long do those first 3 arts, (Grappling, Koshijutsu, and Koppojutsu) usually take to learn solidly? They all sound great.

[luck777jojo]

personally I'm not that much into all those arts, yet from personal experience with sports I would say that..... it would take an indefinite ammount of time to "master" those arts, people can be good or bad at them yet to completely "master" it..... I doubt that it would be possible for any one person to achieve that in their entire life.

[DarkCloud]

During my high school days, I tried and worked with a capoeira master. That style is by far the most exhausting art I have ever tried, Although very tiring, the style is power and unique to itself and I haven't seen any style near it. It requires constant moves and a lot of power in the legs and heavy endurance to do it.

The music and beat of capoeira is very good and I kinda really enjoy it. It gets the heart beating and gets you all pumped up.

I learned that thinking does create hesitation and through such things like breakdancing [which further enhanced my capoeira] and racing down the road. When I'm on the road, I have a set goal and mind of where I'm going, I don't even think the rest of the way. I just drive.

My reaction rate, I would have to say is higher than most people on the road since most of the time when I'm at a red light, I pull out faster than anyone.

Its all about reaction/response rate. If you have a high response rate, everything goes by instinct and logic and mind shut down completely.

Grappling... I need to work on that. Hopefully, I'll get a chane to work with you on that, Machiko.

[Machiko]

those are all the arts I know...all aspects of one - Ninjitsu, most I am completely able to pull off and there are of course levels to all skill, (and I never reveal anything about that, but considering I've been doing it and other styles for 16/17 years, you can do the math), but others, like I mentioned: polearms, chains, firearms (I hate guns, although I'm great with archery and have a few trophies), shortswords...not my best. For me this was my "sports", my "excercise" amoung other things. I was in Japan, this is what I was taught to do. It was tough at times in the beginning but Imean now...when I look around at people, I am happy I went down that road in my life and continue too.

I have a ton of other styles I use though, and I was taught all the above from gradeschool to early high school at which point I was experimenting with chin-na, eagle/tiger claw and snake fist, jujitsu, drunken style and jeet kune do came later. It's not really something you can label as written in stone...you learn the foundations of the skills and build your own style off that. Like I took up reading body language to advanced levels, and I become obcessed with mastering it because it strengthens my awareness defense/ fighting. I also love and practice knife fighting but the hybrid of that was the boots I wear have a 4 inch heel that is made of steel which punctures more then cuts. Its black and hidden, it doesnt come out or any tricks you seen in movies, it's just there. It provides the weighted training all the time as well as self defense with a (concealed)weapon and I'm known to be a kicker.

they teach you first aid in ninjitsu, or at least when i learned, I was taught that early on. It's helpful and mostly good for treating minor wounds...giving yourself stitches if necessary, minor breaks in bones etc. Anything more then that and you should probably take up something else because your just killing your body.

Ya forgot to mention the most important thing - you have to eat right and it isn't fun. I can never eat bad food, and never will...so if you can live without that, because you really need a super healthy diet if you are serious about your fighting and your health in general, you won't be eating junk food. It isn't good for you anyway. I would be curious to see how many people if someone made a poll, eat bad. You couldn't word it like that though, would have to trick them into telling the truth. Like making the poll seem like picking unhealthy pizza for instance, would be make you "cool".

[DarkCloud]

Hmm... I seem to follow the tai chi form of diet, drink a gallon of water a day. Workout for close to 8 hours non-stop a week [that's right no breaks].

4 hours weight training
4 hours speed bag and punch bag.

My diet consists of eating tons of rice [can't go a day without it] Since summer is here, probably going to go up to 16 hours each week.

Eating healthy can tend to be very expensive and rather hard. True its not fun, but drinking a gallon of water isn't too bad.

There sure is a world of things I should've learned and tried, but I seem to manage my time terribly. and that will change pretty soon.

Hmm... the kali yuga seems to be a weapon of choice for me. I can't see myself handling a sword, well, perhaps a blade with one side dull.

I really enjoy using weapons that are unique, fans, paracells, and perhaps the broken staff. Those weapons I can really go for.

[bigtimestuff]

Yes i think alot of americans have managed thier time poorly. The Asian culture seems to be alot more organized to me. Its kindof normal and cool to sit around with your friends, eating McDonalds and watching MTV, and then to go be alchoholics on the weekend. Thats basically what the group of people I hung out with did all through highschool. Luckily I played sports every season also so i kept in pretty good shape. Nowadays Ive been trying to stay away from the fast food all together, so I end up eating alot of microwave dinners since im single and cant cook(anything edible). Hehe pizza though, yah thats pretty much a staple of my diet. Hay its actually got all the food groups in it;) Ive actaully always wanted to eat healthy but as you said DC, its harder to find health food and to know which to eat along with being a little more expensive. As far as exercising i play basketball hard either at a club or on the street for about an hour a day. Then occasionally(about 3 times a week and more this summer) I will go mountain biking for about 2-3 hrs or longer. This is very strenuous. I also do lots of situps/pushups and related exercises. Since I broke my shoulder bad in a bike wipeout a year ago I am still struggling to get to my best shape. Im not fat or anything though so I think I can slip into the begining stages of any physical training without much stress. But correct me if Im wrong, couldnt even a very out of shape person when equipped with the knowledge of ninjitsu whoop on some a$$? I mean did you ever see that Marshall Law guy? I always joked I could kik his ass through pure athletic ability cause hes so short and fat. But really, arnt there some (I dont want to say cheap) but very effective moves that anyone could use on a normal person correctly? Like in those 3 I picked out (Grappling, Koshijutsu, and Koppojutsu) are there any essential moves that stand out. Hmm i actually had a book covering grappling once, ill have to dig that up. I think ill also do some research on the net on ninjitsu. This is so awesome guys Im gonna learn to kick A$$es!:kar:

[DarkCloud]

It helps to have something to practice on or someone to practice with.

Experience is a great teacher and experience is a great source of power. But also resources which many of us lack. Go with what you got.

[bigtimestuff]

omg im so scared of machiko now even more that she hasnt responded to my post i think shes a funking ninja that is going to try and come f**king kill me.

[SolidusSnake]

OMG what do you think she is !!!!???!!!!

*looks behind, to make sure*

[bigtimestuff]

Haha plese dont smash me to the ground and slice me with sords mmkay? Heh but thats why I want to learn so I dont have to have my fat friends help in a scuffle. ;)

[Felix]

sords? Im assuming you mean swords? Hehe..I agree with you. it would be nice to learn ;)
Nice new avatar btw..whatever it is..

[NightNinja]

From Let Li and Jackie Chan this thread has gone to learning how to combat people with chinese/japanese style fighting. All i can say is wow...

[Felix]

Well Jackie Chan and Jet Li do have a lot to do with Chinese or Japanese, or..lets just say asian, style fighting.

[bigtimestuff]

yes. everybody was learning to smash from sinsea machiko. hehe I hope she doesnt get mad at the joking.:chinese:

[Mori]

Jet Li all the way!

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Jet Li is a master of Wushu (I think thats how you spell it) which is an art of, in short, looking really cool. Now I don't think you can base an entire opinion on how he looks without actually having seen him in a fight. But being a Martial Artist myself, and comparing the two actors' flexibility and ostensible strengths, I think Jet Li is a better fighter. Of course Jackie Chan is funnier.



But Bruce Lee frickin owns them all...

[bigtimestuff]

I think Bruce Lee did Jeet Kun doo or something. :)

Originally posted by Machiko
I was in Japan, this is what I was taught to do. It was tough at times in the beginning but Imean now...when I look around at people, I am happy I went down that road in my life and continue too.


This is becasue you know you can kick all the buts yes:cheeky:

[sauce]

Dont even know Jet Li :D

[bigtimestuff]

:( Machiko seems to have disappeared. She must be very busy. I was having fun learning martial arts too.:) And from DC also, I checked out capoeria and it looks fun. One of my friends wants to train with me now in ninjitsu if we can find a dojo. I found some intesting sites too. One is for the american version of ninjitsu i believe.
http://www.fightauthority.com/index.php4?typeID=1
http://www.totalwarrior.com/

[SolidusSnake]

Heh, if you would ask me to hit you on the face, I'd probably miss :) I dont like fighting.

[EluCid]

yea yea yea im gonna
have to go with Jackie Chan on this one, hes been around longer n stuff plus hes done wayyy better stunts than jet li.

[VoN DuTch™]

Jackie chan is a better actor because he makes his own stunts but in real life Jet li would pwn Jackies' ass so bad O_o

[Ronin]

of course jet li could own jackie chan.... jackie is like 60 years old now, and jet li is about 30!

If you look at their movie careers, jackie chan has way better movies, and his trix are amazing!.... rh1 and rh2 own, and what exactly does li have to his name?.. Z3R0!!

[TheRainMan]

lame post

[Dark Blaze]

TheRainMan please do not continue this useless spamming. I will give you a fair warning first, but if I find you do this again, I shall give you points.

[Ronin]

did that fool just call my post lame??

He has spammed this entire board with his crap! All he does is write 1 sentence posts and piss ppl off... and he magically stopped right when he got 30! Pplz like this make me mad, but i wont say anything else cause i dont wanna be banned.

[EluCid]

LOl Ron1n's jokes but ok.... look at Jackie chan hes old hes done with acting jet -li is like sum newbie who thinks hes kool only cause jackie had the ballz to start making his own movie in the first place . if u ask me jackie set the stage for jet li in the first place.

[SolidusSnake]

Felix: Thats why I reported him, and I also reported him at other place's so it would be sure he really spams the whole damn forum.

[VoN DuTch™]

Originally posted by EluCid
LOl Ron1n's jokes but ok.... look at Jackie chan hes old hes done with acting jet -li is like sum newbie who thinks hes kool only cause jackie had the ballz to start making his own movie in the first place . if u ask me jackie set the stage for jet li in the first place.
Ok, maybe jackie has better movies but who do you thing would win in a real fight?

[DeathsTouch]

Jet Li's movies imo are cheesy. He never dies. Just like Steven Seagal,but that's another thing. Jackie Chan his movies are fun to watch.

I say Jackie Chan owns all.

[CHRoNiC]

JACKIE CHAN!! I love his movies they have alot of comic elements to them.:chinese:

[Tito21]

Bruce Lee

[Ronin]

Jet li would win, i said that already... but if they were both the same age, then chan would win.

[VoN DuTch™]

Originally posted by Tito21
Bruce Lee
Where did that come from lol? and jackie is older, isn't he?

[Ronin]

Jackie = 60

Jet = 23

[sniper w00t]

jackie can whoop jet's arse lol....bruce lee was older...jackie chan used to do sum coreography for the stunt men in sum of bruce lees films.... jackie chan even makes an appearance in bruce lee's "enter the dragon" if u watch closely :D...but all in all..bruce lee kicks jackies and jet's arse...lol wen they made bruce lee fimls...they had to slow the frame rates down cos bruce lee punced way too fast and u could barely see it on camera so they slowed it down so u can see it lol :D

[rvn2k3]

jackie chan stills better than jet li....jackie's very comical while jet li doens't have much to say

[wraith fury]

you are all are crazy jet would eat jakie for lunch

[nightmare]

user warned for thread digging

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