New MOD(s) For Raven Shield SubForum

[wooolF[RM]]

MMkay folks, this forum is kinda active and peeps have interest for this game, looking good :classic:

Most og you know each other from posts/pms etc. Now time to choose some mods for this forum.

When u choose someone think of :

a) How much this person knows about the game and its details
b) How much this person have helped here on the forum
c) Does this person have any knowledge of the game engine/hacks/you_name_it related to this game
d) Does this person have willing help people?
e) Online time spent on this forum

As said... there will be choosen at least 1 mod, probably 2 because we need to cover forum as much as possible (so at least 1 of the most is online if trouble is calling).

No poll made as I'm not sure whom I should suggest. Post here, open your mind, think before u post... then I'll take people names which have been mentioned most and make a poll with those names (max 10). Then U'll get a chance to vote and make a final decision.

Good luck everyone! :bunny:

[DarkCloud]

I change my mind,
-Machiko
For her indepth knowledge of the engine and the building base of RavenShield
-Xtasy
Support and because they seem to work well.

[Machiko]

i know the engine and i do legitimate things with it in other games, but i dont hack the code. I just know the engine, the entire art end of the game etc darkcloud. If someone were doing a modification or total conversion (such as I am doing now for ut2k3) then ya I would be good, hacking it - no. Once the hacks are in, I know by looking at them how and what they work with, that's it. If they want one mod based on hacking knowledge - that would be someone else not me, and then if they want someone who just knows it(the engine) very well, since it was born back in the late 90's, and is helpful -then that would be me there. 2 or 3 people would be good here. elac and xtasy and if you then wanted to add someone who just knows the engine, lives and breathes it and uses it daily then me. Thats it. I doubt though wooolf would stick 3 people to this. Other then I come on at the times the others don't. Thats the only benefit aside form the game engine knowledge, and 24 hour coverage and help from someone who can help, for there to be a 3rd (me).I'd look to the hackers first though.

[A5y|um]

Elac
Mayhem

[Thør]

Thanks dark and Machiko :D Asylum what about meh! I dont think Mayhem should be one simply bc he hardly ever posts nor helps people he just wants to keep things to himself. Don't get me wrong, he knows the engine very well but I just dont think hes mod material. (not flaming at all)
If I had to vote for someone it would deffinitly be... Elac and Machiko (if she wants to)

[wooolF[RM]]

just a notice : poll with all names collected from this thread will be made at 7th April 2003...

[Elac]

Xtasy..."b dont be hatin" (< Thats off of Malibu's most wanted heh) . Mayhem is one of the few people we have that know the engine. Only people up to this point that have proved to me of knowing the engine are Rvshackz and Mayhem.

Well...gl to everyone who's runnin. |,|,
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[malice]

Im kinda new here but from all the posts I've read, the activities of these people, and the dedication they put in this game, I would have to recommend;
1. elac
2. mayhem
3. a5y|um
4. xtasy
5. machiko

[c00ki3 m0nst3r]

asylum, rvs_hackz, elac, m4yh3m3d

[M4YH3M3D]

"c" is for cookies thats good enough for me!

[A5y|um]

lol:classic:

[Thør]

maybe i have mistakin mayhem...i thought about it and i shouldnt have said that so quick until i got to know him better. sry bro

[Machiko]

hey i think if wooolf wants to throw a third person on, that it was me thats all. Making it clear here i dont hack this game at all...i know this engine better then anything (I make models and maps and mutators for this game since the late 90's, 100s in the 500 mark of content and total conversion right now). I know how things work if others make it for sure, and i usually talk to the person who writes the hacks, and i'm on times none of you are. I would be here to support cheats, help people heavily, as I have done in aa. Thats all I want to say about it. I think you should pick elac and xtasy definitely, if you want that 24 hour help i'm here. Besides down the road since i know this engine and i have outside help from the best source, I might be making things. Epics going to come knocking on ut2k3s door with something soon though and no doubt like with AA they will share that "something". be prepared.

[Elac]

I'd like to see rvshackz in there. He's the memory hacker that stood up against keeping cheats to ones self which mayhem did initially. Rvs and I have worked together and it has proven profitable.

[Felix]

i don't know anything about this game, but i gotta say Machiko because i am active in some of her other forums and she does a good job, even though it pisses me off sometimes.

[M4YH3M3D]

well I really didnt know I was in the running for moderator but the information I give to people or that is requested from people I do not give freely. If you dont learn something then I have failed in bringing you the info. I work upon the basic premise "If you give a man a fish you feed him for a day, if you teach the man how to fish you feed him for a lifetime..." If you cant live with that then dont make me a moderator but I can tell the difference between the people who know something about the game and the people who are just full of it on MPC already.

[Rvshackz]

Well I vote for me! jk Good luck to all, lots of great hackers in here.

[Fresh]

Bob, elac

[Elac]

I know this doesn't count but just by counting the top 2 in every post:

Mach 111
Xtasy 11
Elac 11111
Bo 1
Asylum 1
Rvshackz 11
Mayhem 111

[redline33]

Elac and Rvshacks

[DarkCloud]

Machiko and X!

[Elac]

lol 3rd time you said that DC.

[DarkCloud]

I haven't found the place I originally posted.

Vote For Machiko for RvS Mod

Could you imagine how it would be to have someone who is heavily experienced with the RavenShield game working on our team?

Now imagine having Machiko onboard as a mod for this forum. She has the experience and the knowledge that would help us further our development.

Through exploring her work and talking first hand with her, I have found out that she will be one of the greatest driving forces that will aid us in our strive for doing the impossible in this game.

She has over five years of experience with the Engine and build base of the game. Machiko has basically dissected the entire engine line for line and understood well the limits and boundries the engine has set. She furthermore has an indepth knowledge of most (if not all) the scripts and variables that can be used in.

The engine that this game uses is her very own life blood. Machiko has built and designed a lot of models for this engine that would fall along the lines of some of the best CGI materials around.

Furthermore, her experience in the engine for this game has taught her what can and what can't fly. It is in her five years of experience with this engine that she has been able to explore completely the limitations and max the game to its full potential. I had the honor of exploring her very own underground server and I was blown away by the beauty.

Her five years of experience has shown very clearly in her work and companies like Konami of Japan sees this as well. The portfolios that was presented to Konami of Japan also carried an absolute total conversion of the very same engine RavenShield has used that carried her so far in life. Keep in mind, Konami of Japan is one of the hardest places to even get past the interviewing stage alone.

Combined with her five years of experience and her indepth knowledge of the engine, she will prove to be one of the best mods ever. I hope you will see that Machiko will be a priceless addition to the team you will never regret voting for. Thank you and have a nce day.

Vote For Machiko

[Yupper]

My vote would be for RVSHACKS he took the time to help me with a retlock and that was after he posted a tut for it :) silly me anyways he had the patients and the friendship to show me the ropes and it was right now, he didnt say i dont have time ,its sure where you wanna start? I am a newb to this and he walked me through it even tho i made mistakes he stood by me.. if he dont make it atleast alec he seems very courtious also. Machinko also seems to know alot. but my vote is for RVSHACKS.

[pseudo]

MACHIKO!

I'm all over the Americas Army forum and Machiko is nothing but helpful in that forum. Plus I know her from another forum. I know that she is very familiar with this particualar game engine for sure.

Plus she is a very good person. Who cares how much you know about the game if you're an @$$.

heh, someone got ahold of someone else's user name and password in the AA forum and she is on a personal manhunt to track down the violator.

[c00ki3 m0nst3r]

rawr no offensence dc, but seriously u gotta chill about promoting machiko all the time.. i mean i know you two are close and shit but its annoying lol... just make 1 offtopic post generalized on how machiko is good at everything and then just put it in your sig.

i vote for fresh cuz his sig is cool. lol... nah i like mayhem cuz the name.. if you know me then you'd know.. I AM MAYHEM BITCH. but you can be m4yh3m cuz yea im not 1337 enuf to do numbers in my name unless they go subscript style like in the days of quake 1. until then ill stick with my RaNDoM CaSiNG. :D MaSTeR oF MaYHeM = me.. PuReMaYHeM.NeT = gay but getting cooler. anyways, asylum, rvs_hackz, elac, m4yh3m3d in any order that makes you happy.

[DarkCloud]

There is nothing wrong with supporting Machiko. I feel that she is fully capable doing the job very well. She does a good job at supporting people who seek help for the unreal engine.

Like many of us mods, her main goal is to help this community along.

Besides cookie, we're supposed to be the peace keepers to this community. I do my best to keep order and the chaos to a minimum in the forums I am assigned to and help the community.

[S7ATiC]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
There is nothing wrong with supporting Machiko. I feel that she is fully capable doing the job very well. She does a good job at supporting people who seek help for the unreal engine.

Like many of us mods, her main goal is to help this community along.

Besides cookie, we're supposed to be the peace keepers to this community. I do my best to keep order and the chaos to a minimum in the forums I am assigned to and help the community. Dude, I know you wanna look like a good friend to her and all, and I could care less.. but cookie's right. You gotta let her speak for herself, but christ - you're you're ******* up to no return! I would use a more vulgar term, but you'd probably use it as an excuse to warn me. O_o

Supporting is one thing. ******* up is another. You might be a gmod or whatever, but from what I know of machiko - she doesn't appreciate it when someone comes along and decides to take over her responsibility.. one instance with hebe.. and one of her responsibilities should be speaking for herself.

I know why machiko has so much 'support', but there's only so much I can watch and keep my mouth shut. It's quite obvious too many people just want a piece of something.

You've warned me once for no viable reason, and the reason you provided (trolling & starting flame war) was definantly not viable with the post you refered to. (see 'why cheating?' in main, closed by wooolf, went off topic)
I also will take a second to plug a plea for you to renig on the warning points you issued to me here.

edit;
(******* = s u c k i n g.. it's filtered too?)
I realise the post says state why, but this is overboard.

edit;
Great. Warned.
Allow me to define pompous for 'public educational information'.
Characterized by excessive self-esteem or exaggerated dignity; pretentious: pompous officials who enjoy giving orders.
Full of high-sounding phrases; bombastic: a pompous proclamation.
Chracterized by pomp or stately display; ceremonious: a pompous occasion.

[Da BuzZ]

S7ATiC... as much as i respect you, i would suggest you'd stop...

[S7ATiC]

Nah that's ok, I don't care if I get my account banned, aslong as I express my honest oppinion. :P
The only reason I'm still here is to discuss war, philosophies, help with simple stuff, and tie up loose ends.
I'm discussing this with machiko right now - doesn't look like I'm getting any negative comments.

[wooolF[RM]]

I suggest same as Da BuzZ... I made this thread not for discussing, but for submitting names of possible MODs for this forum.

1) I don't want to sort all of your discussions here when I have to find peoples that the others have submitted
2) I'm kind atired of all your (sorry to say) crap u posted in past, S7ATiC... U were a nice usefull MOD and u know it... But since u leaved and then came back again, only things u do is trolling and posting something that have no relationships with gaimg at all... I'm also tired to see that u press on Machiko all the time... I said u allready once - bug off! Now I say it public... And be sure there wont be third time.

Have a nice day.

[Machiko]

WooolF sorry for posting in here but he just pmed me something.
wooolf remember when i showed you ALOT of work (do you remember this?). Tell him once and for all about this. He seems to think I am here for some other reason. It just bothers me that he thinks that. I do everything i said. I could get many people to post here and back that up. Yes I am secretive of my work but I show people who count to me. Just because I havent spammed in here doesn't mean I can't do things I put my mind to - EASILY. I've done tons of previous work and its personal to me. That is all. Sorry wooolF for this post. Kill me but tell this guy once and for all, you remember the morning I shared with you my work. Was a long time back.

Again sorry for the post. I had to say something though.

[aapje]

machiko u go girl :bunny:

[wooolF[RM]]

There are alot of people who will support you Machiko, u know it. Also whole MPC Team will back you up I'm for sure.

And yes, Machiko made some nice work on her creations and I really liked it (try to call this ass licking again S7ATiC and u're out for sure), she wont share it for everyone and it's understandable why. Respect it.

Again, bug off from her and don't even mention her name or pm her or be gone... I don't feel like banning you after all your work u did for MPC, I do apreciate it and respect it, but time is changing and so do people... Make some conclusions S7ATiC, before u post again. Thanx

[S7ATiC]

http://web1.server126.notraffic.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15658
referring my 'off-topic' topic here.. please do not discuss anything I've discussed in this thread, follow the link to the specified thread and discuss it there. thanks.

[wooolF[RM]]

Just a warning to everyone : if someone will post in this thread something NOT RELATED to the subject of this thread, this person will have 99% chances of being banned... and I don't care who it will be... Over and out...

[Elac]

so...vote for me?

[Da BuzZ]

My vote goes to: Elac

[Malicious]

elac or machiko

[Thør]

if someones name is on here you dont have to post it again...this is just so wooolf knows who to put on the poll that hes putting up on april 7th thanks ;)

[Machiko]

well a poll requires a certain number of mentions of a name, over and over (not from the same person of course), but different ones. Then those numbers are totaled. If I buy 1 cd, and no one else does, it won't hit #1 on billboard charts unless many, many units are sold (total sum of people buying a certain bands cd- not taking mp3 d/l programs into consideration heh/ or the ticket sales of a certain move (name) being sold then calculation of the top seling box office film of the weekend). Kind of the same thing as far as mentioning the name over and over. It just sucks when the same person posts the same name 4 times in a row. I think WooolF knows what he is looking at though.

[Elac]

so...lets have a poll...not a debate

[wooolF[RM]]

/me sends Elac to the Artics in Upper Canada and lets Elac freeze to death with the penguins!

I posted the date for the poll and it will be not before... period... :sla:

[Elac]

I wasn't saying to have it yet, i was trying to stop an argument.

[Felix]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
I haven't found the place I originally posted.

Vote For Machiko for RvS Mod
Vote For Machiko

Hell yea dc. Keep it up ;)

Vote for Machiko :p

[YouKilled]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
I haven't found the place I originally posted.

Vote For Machiko for RvS Mod

Could you imagine how it would be to have someone who is heavily experienced with the RavenShield game working on our team?

Now imagine having Machiko onboard as a mod for this forum. She has the experience and the knowledge that would help us further our development.

Through exploring her work and talking first hand with her, I have found out that she will be one of the greatest driving forces that will aid us in our strive for doing the impossible in this game.

She has over five years of experience with the Engine and build base of the game. Machiko has basically dissected the entire engine line for line and understood well the limits and boundries the engine has set. She furthermore has an indepth knowledge of most (if not all) the scripts and variables that can be used in.

The engine that this game uses is her very own life blood. Machiko has built and designed a lot of models for this engine that would fall along the lines of some of the best CGI materials around.

Furthermore, her experience in the engine for this game has taught her what can and what can't fly. It is in her five years of experience with this engine that she has been able to explore completely the limitations and max the game to its full potential. I had the honor of exploring her very own underground server and I was blown away by the beauty.

Her five years of experience has shown very clearly in her work and companies like Konami of Japan sees this as well. The portfolios that was presented to Konami of Japan also carried an absolute total conversion of the very same engine RavenShield has used that carried her so far in life. Keep in mind, Konami of Japan is one of the hardest places to even get past the interviewing stage alone.

Combined with her five years of experience and her indepth knowledge of the engine, she will prove to be one of the best mods ever. I hope you will see that Machiko will be a priceless addition to the team you will never regret voting for. Thank you and have a nce day.

Vote For Machiko

Wow... Now that is a great speech... Although, I see why... Asians are hot... heh, Machiko has my vote...

[Elac]

And as a question...with no insultation to machiko...but I just know the game...and i'm making cheats and so are other people...yet machiko...has made nothing.....if you were to vote for her as a mod I'd go with her public speaking rather then her knowledge because you cant count on someone's knowledge when they dont put it to good use.

[A5y|um]

The people who have done the most deserve it. Thats why i voted for Elac.

[Machiko]

Originally posted by Elac
And as a question...with no insultation to machiko...but I just know the game...and i'm making cheats and so are other people...yet machiko...has made nothing.....if you were to vote for her as a mod I'd go with her public speaking rather then her knowledge because you cant count on someone's knowledge when they dont put it to good use.

I've been working with the unreal engine since the FIRST unreal. I know what the hell I'm doing. I don't quite get that knowledge comment, but I do put it to good use. You don't think making a total conversion is putting it to better use then making some hacks? Sure this is a hack site but you say I don't put it to any use when I have done countless things many people here(not posting in here), wooolF even has seen things, as it seems i guess people don't read. You know why i don't post right now ? Big suprise coming. I'm going to wait until something is in place, before I go investing my time into it. I have too many other projects going to stop and try to make something that won't be working for too long. Don't assume anything and don't believe anything any little punk kids pm you either, because they lie and don't know me, what I do and just create problems like this. I've done nothing to deserve a negative post like that.

[DarkCloud]

You people should be very appreciative. If you people would only pay attention to what she has done in the UT forums, you really would see how helpful she is. Machiko has poured so much hard-work and effort into these forums and that is what had helped her get this far.

Machiko trully understands the engine and through that she has a better knowledge of how things can work with the engine. Go to the UT forums [the very base and build of this game] and look how helpful she is. Even in games that have used the UT engine, she has been recognized for her help and people shown how thankful they are to have her.

This Unreal Engine is her life's blood. There is no way anyone could even come close to an understanding of the engine unless you were the very programmer themselves. She is as close is any of us will get to having any understanding of the engine what so ever!

Elak- Total conversions are even harder than cheats. To do a total conversion, you would have to understand the very base of the entire program and know what is and what isn't.

She has put her knowledge to good use, Ask anyone in the AA, UT2kr, Unreal Forums. They will say with out a thought that she has put her knowledge to good use.

Here's a good example that you just read earlier on:
Originally posted by pseudo
MACHIKO!

I'm all over the Americas Army forum and Machiko is nothing but helpful in that forum... I know that she is very familiar with this particualar game engine for sure.

Plus she is a very good person. Who cares how much you know about the game if you're an @$$.

heh, someone got ahold of someone else's user name and password in the AA forum and she is on a personal manhunt to track down the violator.

Here is two pages of appreciate that people have shown for machiko's assistance:
http://web1.server126.notraffic.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15129&highlight=machiko+appreciation

And here is an endorsement by the admin himself:
Originally posted by wooolF[RM]
...Machiko made some nice work on her creations and I really liked it... she wont share it for everyone and it's understandable why. Respect it.

[wooolF[RM]]

last chance for submitting any names is tomorrow :)

[Da BuzZ]

Question: How many of the people who is going to be mods actaully have the game?
This is just my opinion, if you're be a mod... you have to play the game and not just understand the engine, because they change/expand the engine in every game... but that's just my opinion...
Name: Elac :p

[YouKilled]

Actually, now that I think about it, Elac should be a mod before Machiko... That is, if the mods are supposed to be people who have helped this community. Although, if you just want people who know the engine well, even if they haveen't helped the community, then I guess Machiko would be better...

Basically, what it gets down to is, do you want a mod who has helped the community, or a mod who hasn't done anything for it, but could if they wanted to?

NOTE: I am referring to the Raven Shield cheating community, since that is the one that they will be moderating... I see that most of the other people that are supporting Machiko are referring to the Unreal modding community...

Machiko: Maybe once you get more involved here, you can be a mod... Although right now, I feel that Elac would be of much more use.

...also, we're not judging people on just how good they are at cheating the game... we're judging them on how helpful they are too...

[Elac]

Machiko I think saying that you want wait until you know invest your time in it isnt right at all. Sure your working on conversions props to you, but if I'm working on hacks for RvS should I be a mod in Mohaa? I hardly see you around here and when you are your talking about your intelligence within the engine when you couldve used the time you typed a page to research something...to look at some things in the game rather then just speak about them. I have no doubt you know what your doing, and I have no doubt that you are highly qualified, but waht I do have a doubt in is if your dedicated to helping everyone rather then adding something new to your portfolio.

I sacrifice well i wouldnt even call it a sacrifice I like helping and I like making things when on the other hand you sacrifice your time to help the rvs community. If you have too many other projects going then I think you shouldnt be here running for a mod, if its so time consuming to you.

DC, Yes she does good work with conversions, but people aren't here for conversions. They are here to create,develop, and get cheats. This is not www.multiplayerconversions.com. Hey I do good work too, but if you want me to go find you a few threads saying 'good job elac' i will, if it suits your fancy. And you can't appreciate someone unless they appreciate you, which she doesnt because she has to sacrifice her time. Hey all I'm saying is if you don't have the time to commit you shouldn't be asking for mod privs.

I said I wasnt trying to start a fight. I was just stating my opinions and now im catching flak for it. I apoligize if I insulted either one of you but its not right.

And its Elac.

P34c3.

[Thør]

Nice 'speach' elac. Can't wait till tomorow :D

[DarkCloud]

With the very knowledge used to build a total conversion, you can built cheats like it was second nature.

But Like I said in my speech, she has the knowledge that will help us develop and create hacks that will definitely be amongst the best.

Its like a book, you can use the knowledge that's contained in the book to create or destroy. The choice is up to you.

[Machiko]

Why don't you take a stroll around the forums. Ask in AA if i have helped and posted for 8 hours straight helping...taking it out of the forums to a "hands on" kind of help. PM wooolF and ask him, if you dare. Ask how hard I have fought to make it better for the community against certain mix-ups in which they get warned or banned. The lengths I won't go to...I love to fight for people on here(the whole forum not just one). I have undeniablly helped...not in these forums, but there is a reason I haven't, that I know, that you do not. Which is in regards to the first line in your post below. What you do know thus far - is not going to be working for long. Ya I could make things now and yes Da Buzz I own the game, but I want to wait until this next "fix" is released. Look what I am saying fromthis perspective, you should be able to understand - Lets say for some reason you had to drive 80 miles somewhere to meet someone but you KNEW they weren't going to show up? Would you still drive there basing that the only reason you were driving there was to meet this person? NO. And I am waiting until the time is right, until the people I KNOW that are on the inside, make their move. Then I will do something and I even talked about doing something with you before. As for my portfolio. Nothing I do here would strengthen that or make it better and I wouldnt add some small cheats to it either, since my sights are set on a higher level of production and a quite different one as well. I have zero to gain for my "portfolio" as you said it by doing anything on MPC. My portfolio is strong, 50% of the things I do that make it strong are non computer related work , and the other 50% are. I have helped people QUITE alot on here and some of the people posting here have said that before. I am probably overhelping people - the owner of this site has told me that before as have alot others. Maybe not in this forum, only because all the questions being asked here have been common knowledge amoung unreal engine users for half a decade about, and most people answer these questions fast enough.
I want you to be a mod Elac I voted for you not against you like you did to me. In fact I thought there should be 3 mods and I named the other 2. I could easily bring this to life too- especially with helping others, and going beyond the forums to do it. Theres zero cheats here I see that are "that good" yet. I know some that work, and things evolve and I recognize this, but as of now, I can say it's all for nothing in some regard. My position now - I choose to hold back, spend my time wisely and wait to see what counter measures are put in place that most definitely will be, before I decide to spend any time doing or attempting any hacks for RavenShield. I help people plenty other places and those hacks do work, and I will not go abandon a section of people I know off these forums as well as on, for something that is still a bit "new", and uncertain. Couple that with the knowledge I do have of the future and I am just saving some time, which is understandable, like my driving 80 mile question i posed to you. Doing something when I know what is going to happen will negate it completely, is counterproductive. You do know that these game devs have their own "common" forum, and its secure, and these cheats are talked about heavily there and estimates to new patches are made that will leave anything being done now, totally non-functional. Plus I have alot of other things on my "desk", I need to do. I have a busy life. Lastly, there is someone in here...well figure it out. You will soon enough.



Originally posted by Elac
Machiko I think saying that you want wait until you know invest your time in it isnt right at all. Sure your working on conversions props to you, but if I'm working on hacks for RvS should I be a mod in Mohaa? I hardly see you around here and when you are your talking about your intelligence within the engine when you couldve used the time you typed a page to research something...to look at some things in the game rather then just speak about them. I have no doubt you know what your doing, and I have no doubt that you are highly qualified, but waht I do have a doubt in is if your dedicated to helping everyone rather then adding something new to your portfolio.

I sacrifice well i wouldnt even call it a sacrifice I like helping and I like making things when on the other hand you sacrifice your time to help the rvs community. If you have too many other projects going then I think you shouldnt be here running for a mod, if its so time consuming to you.

DC, Yes she does good work with conversions, but people aren't here for conversions. They are here to create,develop, and get cheats. This is not www.multiplayerconversions.com. Hey I do good work too, but if you want me to go find you a few threads saying 'good job elac' i will, if it suits your fancy. And you can't appreciate someone unless they appreciate you, which she doesnt because she has to sacrifice her time. Hey all I'm saying is if you don't have the time to commit you shouldn't be asking for mod privs.

I said I wasnt trying to start a fight. I was just stating my opinions and now im catching flak for it. I apoligize if I insulted either one of you but its not right.

And its Elac.

P34c3.

[Elac]

Sorry if I insulted you in anyway, didn't mean to. Goodluck everyone.

[YouKilled]

Regardless of wether or not you CAN do, this should be based on what you have DONE...

When you do start getting as involved with RVS as you are with other games, then maybe you should be a mod... but as of right now, you really haven't been here...

Note: I'm referring to RVS again, not to all of the other games, like you and DarkCloud have been...

[DarkCloud]

Patience. You have to be patient. A patch seems to be on the horizon and that patch may have an overwhelming effect that may completely eliminate any and all hack.

This game isn't in the clearing concerning patches and fixes. We have to take into effect of those patches and fixes.

[YouKilled]

I'm not being impatient... I'm saying that after she has done something here, then she should try and be a mod... You don't base this kind of stuff on what someone can do, or plans on doing... You base it on what they have done, or are currently doing...

Once Machiko gets involved, then she should try and be a mod... but not before...

[Machiko]

these guys aren't aware of these things darkcloud. Whatever. At least YouKilled, was constructive about it. Although I have done more with this engine then anyone on here...even if it wasnt hacks. Still total conversions are a higher level then that, being I'm trying to make an entirely new game, so stepping down to do something like a hack wouldnt be hard and I work well with others and would want to get some input on anything I did. So you will judge others by what they have done which won't work soon enough over someone who chose to be smart and wait until something can be done that works? Also someone who has a little control over someone else who posts here (not darkcloud - someone else who you gusy would not welcome if you knew who he was), can be beneficial.

[YouKilled]

I understand that there's a patch coming soon, and it will probably nerf the current hacks... I don't really understand why you want to be a mod in some place where you haven't really gotten involved though... Maybe we should hold the whole mod thing off, until the patch is released... Or after it's released, have a second vote for a second mod...

[DarkCloud]

Someone who chooses to remain in the shadows atleast for the time being.

that's a very good idea YouKilled. Glad that you have kept things professional and constructive.

[Machiko]

maybe YouKilled. If you read my long post, reason I havent gotten involved is because why would I want to post and do things and waste my time on that when it's going to get as you put it - "nerfed"? It's easy to understand why I don't right now. I have a schedule here, things I have to do, as in life or death, not leisure. That's priorty right now to this, but once I see the new things they are putting in place, then I will attempt to participate in posting more and providing.

Originally posted by YouKilled
I'm not being impatient... I'm saying that after she has done something here, then she should try and be a mod... You don't base this kind of stuff on what someone can do, or plans on doing... You base it on what they have done, or are currently doing...

Once Machiko gets involved, then she should try and be a mod... but not before...
currently doing ALOT, all over regions of this engine, more so in ut2k3. 840 megs of work, not counting the base build of the engine. Sorry I don't post it. Since as I stated there is someone right in here who is not who they seem. I'm not posting so it can be added to the bug list.

[Dee3dee]

lol you guys have cheating 'portfolios'

rofl

ermm...sorry bout that ouburst :D

btw DarkCloud your speech about Machiko was just beautiful...I think you should entitle it "Machiko! Coming to theaters near YOU!"

anyway, the only person that has actually "produced" anything, is YouKilled with the reticle hack...oh and rvshackz posted a little tutorial on mem hacking...but thats it really.

so, if its based on work you have contributed, I guess YouKilled should be a mod.

[Elac]

Other people have contributed tutorials with binding and whatnot. More then one person worked on all of this but the onlyTANGEABLE cheat was YouKilled.

[Machiko]

no i make legitmate stuff. Im a modeller(spanning 5 engine types, 8 different games, mapper ( 3 engines, 7 games) animator(5 engines, 8 games) texture artist(5/8). I do some mutators(1/3) and modifications for the engine(2/4) all legit right now. I dont add cheats to my portfolio. I dont need to. All the aforementioned stuff is quite good, plus I am a 2d artist, sculptor. this has zero to do with this game though and I'm just posting to make a point that I do not in anyway add cheats to my "portfolio".

[Elac]

Ok lets not discuss anymore...seems like all of this should be edited to the one string of text who said who they were voting for. Good Luck and have a good night.

[DarkCloud]

Surprisingly, he's the most modest one of us all.

[Machiko]

Originally posted by Elac
Other people have contributed tutorials with binding and whatnot. More then one person worked on all of this but the onlyTANGEABLE cheat was YouKilled.

There are tutorials ALLLLL over the net. I know a guy who has probably one of the best tutorial sites on the web for unreal engine games period. Just do searches for tutorials. Totally easy to find. There are more tutorials for the this engine then there are drugs in columbian druglords hands. I posted tons in ut2k3 and a few in UT and aao, especially before the big server crash, about 18 sites or so. Stuff I thought was the best, including apps for scripting this engine.

[Elac]

Originally posted by Elac
Ok lets not discuss anymore...seems like all of this should be edited to the one string of text who said who they were voting for. Good Luck and have a good night.

[Machiko]

ya was posting and hit submit after that so I couldnt read what you wrote, sorry. You dont have to suggest things to me either.

[Elac]

Repetition sometimes helps...just reminding.

[DarkCloud]

Best of luck to all the competitors and all those people who were elected for becoming a moderator. I will be writing another campaign speech tomorrow when the polls are open.

[Da BuzZ]

No offence, but i serious dont care how much you know the engine, this is a cheating community, keep that in mind, it's about cheats & exploits, not about art... And good luck to everyone who's running to be a mod...

[thevilone]

Machiko has had the best argument imo .

[Machiko]

Thats rude. I just told you if you READ and others, a total conversion involves more then the art end. FAR MORE. Coding, is at the TOP of the list, guess you don't know enough about that. It's alot more work then making hacks.

Da Buzz...Urusai gaki - If you think a total conversion is just art, you don't know what it is at all. It's like making an entirely new game. I have shown MANY people, the ones I "hang with" that. Dark clouds seen it too but he doesn't quite understand that was what he should be posting about more then all the other things he said. You also didn't read, i ratioed the coding art (models maps mutators off). I think some people just don't get what I am saying and the ones who do, are just a bit more knowledgable. Thank god for those people.

[Da BuzZ]

Are we making total conversions? Not that i know of... we're trying to make hacks... I will discuss this no further cuz it will only result in flame... Let the poll decide...

Edit- Urusai gaki <-- I dont see me swearing in danish...
Edit 2- Looked the words up
urusai: noisy, annoying
gaki: brat
http://kiro.lemontoss.com/Glossary.html#G

[Machiko]

TOTAL CONVERSION IS CODING - HACKING IS TOO/scripting etc. Where are you not making the god damn connection?

halflife>cs q3>bfp ut2k3>troopers the list is LONG.

That wasn't swearing, the words i wanted to say I cannot think of in english at this time. Don't assume.

[Elac]

Close this please.

[Machiko]

My point is right. I could close this why should I. You know, coding is coding. period.

[Elac]

If all your here to do is prove a point...you should leave.

[Machiko]

no I am trying to defend stupid attacks on me. I never attacked anyone until they attacked me and I even voted for you. You have any honor?

[Elac]

Do I have any honor? Of course I do...but I also know when to shut my mouth and bite my tongue. He's not posting your just replying. Stop discussing this altogether like wooolF suggested in the first place.

[Da BuzZ]

Attack? I said my opinion... apparently you take EVERYTHING as an attack...

[Machiko]

you said negative to me, and incorrect - something that made it sound like total conversions which takes tremendous knowledge of the code of the engine isn't valid to hacking. You made it sound like it was an "art" thing only which is is not. if that were true, every game would be a visual movie you could not interact with (interaction that is done with coding). Coding a TC would be a good indication I could do hacks for this game. That is what you do not see. Also I don't know why you are so damn cruel to me Da Buzz. I stuck up for you so many times in the past then *****s which you let brainwash you , did. I was told who talked to you. It's sad because it wasn't that way between us before.

[Elac]

Hi, I'm Elac and I break up fights. Hi Machiko...stop posting...Da Buzz don't post again...this is about ravenshield not about personal quarrels.

[Da BuzZ]

I'm sorry i never meant to hurt you... Hope you can forgive me...

[Elac]

www.angelfire.com/pro/elac/chikfila.jpg

[Machiko]

Elac we have talked before, if you have ever known anything about tcs then you know that takes a ton of coding. Hacking is the same thing. If someone can do a tc for the engine, they could do some hacks with ease. Thats all. I don't want to fight and I know you don't know me well outside this forum which is sad, because I'm a nice person, but I just want to make that clear that coding for a TC is pretty damn intense stuff. Someone who could do this would be an invaluable asset to helping with hacks. That's a fact.

[DarkCloud]

My gosh, people, before you post any comments positive or negative, try reading through the entire thread. A lot of this arguing has gone over mis-understanding what is said.

If you had read some of the posts, you would have a better understanding and a much more developed perspective.

So best luck to all the canidates. Ofcoruse, I'll be rooting for Machiko.

[Elac]

Of course you will. No more flame...just wait till the poll goes up and wooolF will close this.

[DenniZ224]

Nice Very Nice

[YouKilled]

Machiko, you speak danish(the language)?

Cam you please translate the following words for me? I find it amusing to spout off funny words... especially in different languages...

pony
duck
cow
*****
squirrel
penguin
whale

wtf? they blocked the word "*****"? hahahahah!!! What's wrong with that word? Isn't it the proper term? What would be a better way to refer to it?

Originally posted by Machiko

There are more tutorials for the this engine then there are drugs in columbian druglords hands.

I'm not so sure about that...

[Da BuzZ]

i speak danish:
pony is the same
and
ko
egern
pingvin
hval

[YouKilled]

what about duck?

[wooolF[RM]]

Originally posted by YouKilled
what about duck?

replace "u" with "i"