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alucardxxx
11th January 2007, 13:12
Project FT, is a project that I created. It stands for **** This. I find this whole mess pretty stupid. Not necessarely you the members, but your project/Boycott is stupid.

Ill give you an example:

100 people buy a car. 40/100 will have an accident because of driving under the influence, being wreckless, you name it. People are getting killed, money is being wasted.

The car companies, decide that to reduce the accidents, they will refuse to sell further cars for the next 5 years, for they find people cant just buy their cars and purposely have accidents making the world a hard place!
Instead, they are ready to teach people how to build their own cars. Its a perfect plan isnt it! Until little drunk jimmy learns how to make a car, and he sells them to everyone! Pretty pointless plan dont you think.
Some drunk hits a person and kills him, while driving a honda. You don't see Honda crying on the roofs and boycotting the next Honda Civic 2008!

People who release hacks, do it on their own will. People who create hacks do it on their own will as well. Its true you see people begging for hacks etc. So what? Most of them are noobs. So what? GMs will ban them if they hack in public/get caught. So what? No one cares. Im sure everyone here hacks in public. Why? Because no one cares!

A noob enters your channel and sees you botting. He will most likely say:
-plz plz party I need 9 exp!!!!
-Give me 5mil or I report
-HACKER!
Who cares? Act like ur afk. Refuse any demands from him. He wont waste his time reporting you!

Who cares? The only people who care, are the "veterans" who get pissed when they wanna hack, but the map and all the channels are taken. The only people who care, are the ones who spend/waste 6 to 8 hours creating their own hacks, to finaly be able to use em, when they find out some noob is hacking in public with the very same hack he created.

You think your project is going to work? The only thing you will have done in the end, is teach maybe 20% of the forum members how to create a hack. In no time they will start releasing their own. Or even worse, hack in public. Then there will be nothing you could do about it. It is absolutly your right to refuse to release hacks n such. But your project will fail without a doubt.

My project on the other hand, is excellent. **** This! Its simple yet perfect. I refuse to take part in any boycotting project for it is pathetic. **** this :D!

Dont lock it, it is freedom of speech. Some guy exposed his point of view on hackers in MS, I exposed mine.

bonkers
11th January 2007, 13:24
please stop these threads do you think your the first person to say this yes people understand that some people dont agree and some do there end these topics forever

people are only releasing more tutorials and explaining hacks more now nothing bad will happen

read people soliunasm made a topic to explain this about project ms

alucardxxx
11th January 2007, 13:26
Silence

Huked
11th January 2007, 13:54
You think your project is going to work? The only thing you will have done in the end, is teach maybe 20% of the forum members how to create a hack. In no time they will start releasing their own. Or even worse, hack in public. Then there will be nothing you could do about it. It is absolutly your right to refuse to release hacks n such. But your project will fail without a doubt.

My project on the other hand, is excellent. **** This! Its simple yet perfect. I refuse to take part in any boycotting project for it is pathetic. **** this :D!

If they end up hacking in public that means they deserve to because they created it and can do whatever they want to with it, you project phails. =]

dischord.xilu
11th January 2007, 13:57
Cheat for Life

Cheat to Win

This is the motto of MPCForums. I myself do not frequently post on MPC, but I visit very often to look for any new cheats or addresses.

I'm a fairly smart guy, and I feel the only reason that people hack in PUBLIC at present, is the fact that GMs can't do a damn thing about it. And neither can all the crybaby legits.

Listen guys, we should be enjoying the corruption of MapleStory. You cheat, therefore the vast number of cheaters ruining Maple for legits should not bother you at all!

So I say that when a person loads MPC (one of the best websites in existence) and goes to the MapleStory section, they should have at least readily accessible addresses, and an engine, so they can wreak havoc on Nexon's twisted game.

Either way, the hacks will somehow find their way to the public eye, and it will continue.

Just my opinion on it all.

Cheat for life!

alucardxxx
11th January 2007, 14:05
If they end up hacking in public that means they deserve to because they created it and can do whatever they want to with it, you project phails. =]

Its quite sad how your brain functions. What is the diffrence between a vase that you made, and a vase that you bought or were given to. You can still break it right? As soon as its yours, you can do w.e you want with it. The hacks, as soon as they are released, you can do w.e you want with them. Sell em on the internet for money, edit them and pretend you made them, ANYTHING.

So you tell me, where your "they deserve to" comes in.

What you just said in your post, proves that you are doing this to piss off people. You said yourself that you dont like ppl who hack in public they leech, they have no moral. Ur just full of bullshit. If you really thought that way, you wouldnt care weather the hacks were made by one or another, you would just want some moral. Instead ur just a douchebag causing havoc.

That is why your project will fail without a doubt. If you dont even believe in your own values...quite sad.

Huked
11th January 2007, 14:09
When the "noobs/leechers" make their own hacks, they have the right to abuse them. If it isn't theirs they have no right to abuse them. That's where it comes in.

Don't worry about my brain it functions better then some of the people here.

alucardxxx
11th January 2007, 14:17
Ha, what you say is stupid. Lets say you GIVE a game to your friend. Do you have the right to tell him:
-Don't lend it to anyone
-Don't use cheats
-Don't play after 10pm.

You are the one who lacks in moral. You make no point at all. What exactly bothers you with people taking hacks (that you have never provided) and using them as they want? If you say they can do w.e they want with the ones they make, they should be aloud to do w.e they want with the ones they download! Demonstrate your intelligence please.

Huked
11th January 2007, 14:20
No they can't do what they want with the ones they download because they did not make them. This means if it's not yours, you can't abuse it.

You really aren't putting much thought into your posts if I can easily reply like this.

MSHackman
11th January 2007, 14:21
When the "noobs/leechers" make their own hacks, they have the right to abuse them. If it isn't theirs they have no right to abuse them. That's where it comes in.

Don't worry about my brain it functions better then some of the people here.

What an ignorant thing to say. HOW IGNORANT! People don't own hacks. If you do make hacks realise that you aren't "making" anything, just moving and altering things that have been made by Wizet and nexon.

People do not own hacks, so there should not be any rights to hack, terms of agreement.

Scruie has said before, this is MPC, we share hacks, the hacks are for the public. If you have private hacks in which you don't want to share, don't share them! Just don't be an ***** about it and tell other people what they should and shouldn't do!

How dare you try and change other peoples thoughts and feelings and perceptions of hacking. Peoples own thoughts are what make them human and by trying to convert people you are just being ignorant.

Once again my point stands, people don't own hacks and if these hacks are found, they can be shared. If the people who find them don't wish to share them so be it, but don't try and convince people your ideas and thoughts are the RIGHT ideas and thoughts.

Huked
11th January 2007, 14:25
Abusing the power a hack holds is what my petition is about. Both of you haven't figured that out and I see no reason to argue if you don't understand that. That being said goodbye, I have more important things to attend to like school where some of the people here need to go to get educated and make better arguments.

alucardxxx
11th January 2007, 14:26
MSHackman, thank you. You are smart, and think before you post. hukedondruuggss ur an *****. All you did was repeat over and over again what you have been saying. I have a feeling you might have troube reading.

Hacks, are the property of no one, and especialy not of you. There is no point to your little project. You are just tired of not being able to hack in Garden of Red II because someone else is there, and on all 20 channels. Stop being such a hyporcrite. At least if you would have created hacks and released them you might have something to say (but again hacks released are no longer owned by you)...no.

You are just a waste of time.

Huked
11th January 2007, 14:27
Wow going to such a low to call me names? That is really pathetic of you. If you knew how to read there would be no reason for you to post this thread at all.

zormen
11th January 2007, 14:27
.....i have a lot of respect for your posts huke but in this case i think you both are wasting typing time o.o

Stopping the release of addresses may hopefully stop the hacking in maplestory which has now become out of hand.
It is UTTERLY RIDICULOUS when i go on my sin and train at platoons that when i find an empty channel 2 minutes later a hacker comes in and ks's me =_=

So really if this is like any other situation aren't hackers creating the leechers? if we piss legits off they become leechers themselves.....i don't know....just my opinion

-AsS
11th January 2007, 14:33
hukedondruuggss stop spamming... Hes just saying his opinion on the project, stop flaming him, kiddy.

alucardxxx
11th January 2007, 14:39
I actually said !diot, and it was censored. Dont cry. You know you are being hypocrite. Your project its pointless. All you want is to be able to go to Lost time 2 and bot without a random lvl 40 comming and start botting as well. Quite sad.

-AsS
11th January 2007, 14:53
What makes you think that YOU can bot in Lost time II and not the lvl 40?

Seriously, who do you think you are? God? And before you say yes, let me tell you this. NO YOURE NOT, YOURE A KID WHO BRAGS 24/7.

Huked
11th January 2007, 15:02
Nah I'm not the person that is dumb enough to go to LT2 and hack. I don't think I'm god, you just want to complain about someone or blame someone, how about you worry yourself and not about me. I'm not a kid that brags, I'm a kid that knows that you can't succeed in life by leeching.

P.S.: Anything outside of my name is calling me names. Maybe you should refresh your mind on what words mean before saying something.

XoxUnknownxoX
11th January 2007, 15:04
Well i know im new here and stuff but u know what , i aint a leecher i wanna help these ppl and when i get the codes ill with scripts ill post them here so it fair for all but u guys are doing is fcukin insane its like u have 2 dogs and ur only feeding 1 . ur project bites ass (projectms) and then u say ima release adress but not scripts cause i wanna hack and bot and i dont want anyone else to use it. so ur a greedy lil **** .all im gunna tell u is if ur gunna do this then the hell with mpcforum just close the dam site and nvr reopen it again .

why am i saying this ? cause u urselves were leechers before and u were trying and begging for hacks and sht and now that u think u got a lil power in ur hands u try to use it , so screw projectms might aswell be called project4f@gs ,( why aint i making the scripts and sht, answer is my ms aint working yet)

dantek77
11th January 2007, 15:13
Honestly Huke, your plan is pointless. I understand trying to get more people to actually work for their hacks, but what makes you think they will keep the hack private? Or if they pass the knowledge on how to get the addresses to someone else what makes you think they will keep it withheld? All you are trying to do is delay the inevitable. No one can actually keep ALL of the hacks, script or memory edit, private. There will always be at least one person who will get the information and release it to everyone. You just have to face reality. Just because you can have hacks, doesn't mean they belong to you. Just like Alucard has said. If you get the hacks yourself, or have them given to you, they are yours to do what you want with them. If you choose to abuse them it is your choice. You honestly have no right to try to control what hacks are told and what ones arent.

MSHackman
11th January 2007, 15:24
I'm not a kid that brags, I'm a kid that knows that you can't succeed in life by leeching.

Reality check, this is a game and not life. And your point also fails in reality. People like Donald Trump have succeeded but they "leeched" off their parents money and others to get where they are also.

xXxMillexXx
11th January 2007, 15:33
i must say this guy is right cos u all try too get all leechers too learn hacking and alot of them wont cos there too noob and don't know where too start.

But im consirned a noob learn and is gonna sell the hacks for money and we all end up paying for it....
and still this is a sharing forum...

eskimo51
11th January 2007, 15:33
plz help mee i need demi-vac plz all give me

xXxMillexXx
11th January 2007, 15:40
dude thats not gonna help...

xXmeatwadXx
11th January 2007, 15:53
This is a very Funny thread, Alucard, Your Project Fails, huked puts alot more thought into posts than you do, Plus alot more people agree with him and alot of people started thinking that way. You sir Need to quit thinking your the shit because whether your thinking that or not, its coming off that way and its pretty lame, -ass wtf that is the dumbest insult in the world "kiddy" and "Kid" Your trying to talk down to him and you couldnt possibly be older by mabye more than a year If not younger, Stop being an *****

huked did not say he wouldnt want anyone else to use Scripts, HE said he wants people to learn to create them themself, People, Your not going to be spoonfed for your entire life and if your taking this much brain thought into a game that means absolutly nothing than you should take a break and find something else to do, its not that important.


Reality check, this is a game and not life. And your point also fails in reality. People like Donald Trump have succeeded but they "leeched" off their parents money and others to get where they are also.

If its not real life, then why the hell would you bring trump into this, that was stupid.

Yes i just flamed, but for Good Reason, All you "noobs/leechers" what ever the hell you are, Are expecting Every thing to be handed to you, It wont. Learn to create scripts. Its Easier than eating cereal. quit bitching and begging from others work when you go and abuse it, This is the most ridiculous shit People Bot Or dont bot in front of like 5 people at pig beach, PIG ****ing beach, Why would you do that in front of so many people, because you dont care, your bored, You dont Follow old Morals your trying to show off, And you dont think the GM's will do anything, Dont get me wrong i know they dont alot, but Eventually you will And All that botting and leveling? What did it do, Waste hours of your life on nothing.

This is Pathetic.

Shiva666
11th January 2007, 16:05
When the "noobs/leechers" make their own hacks, they have the right to abuse them. If it isn't theirs they have no right to abuse them. That's where it comes in.

Don't worry about my brain it functions better then some of the people here.

So you telling me you never was a leech, the almighty computer god came to you and gave you the knowledge you have now so we all should praise you. Here is the truth you dont want your hacks to be leeched keep them to yourself, but let others that want to share theirs do whatever the f they want. Im not an expert yet, but I was once a leecher and now is time for me to give back

dischord.xilu
11th January 2007, 16:17
At this point I'd like to point out that the only people siding with hukedondrugs are those who think they can "evade" this "project MS" by ******* up to the "godly hacking forces from above" in hopes of leeching using social engineering.

Listen, I don't want to make enemies here, so can't we all just get along? We all have the same goal, right? SELF ADVANCEMENT in the MapleStory.

If you have a script, and you enjoy posting on MPC, share it!

Otherwise you really have no place here, because all you're doing is teasing leechers, like myself.

We recognise that you are BETTER at the game-hacking scene than us, and you don't need to start a revolution to cut us off to let us know who holds the power.

We just want our hax.

So let's all share, and help all MPC users to better themselves!

(P.S. I can't share because I'm a leecher, sorry. But if I knew how to make a FMIV script or somethin, I WOULD post it here without any doubt. After all, why not?)

alucardxxx
11th January 2007, 18:25
Huked put no thought into his posts. All he said was he doesnt like noob leachers who have no moral blablabla some church sermon bs. No one cares. Meatwad what you say is stupid.
huked puts alot more thought into posts than you do, Plus alot more people agree with him and alot of people started thinking that way.
That doesnt mean he is right. It just means that ppl are ******* up to him so they can get the adresses and bypass to reach lvl 454363643. No one cares about moral or anything. This isnt a courtroom. This is a forum, and we are playing games. Wtf is this!

This doesnt affect our lives or w.e! He just made this big deal cuzz hes tired of seeing all the good hacking spots full and hes mad cuzz random ppl just sign up download hacks and disapear. Its not about moral, its about him being pissed. And ppl who side with him are pissed as well.

"The vets deserve this, the vets have moral, the vets this the vets that"
1) Hacking isnt permitted so there are no rules when ur breaking them
2)Ur a hypocrite, your project is about ur sorry self that wants to reach lvl 4564365.

Its sad most of you are blind and hard headed. MPC isnt the only hacking forum. Personaly I got my hacks from zenxengine.com Ppl will start going other places. Simple as that. If you guys wanna be stupid nerds putting some rules on hacks, games are going to suck.

Take Cs Source for example. How many hackers in cs source? God daaaam. Sometimes its a whole server hacker v.s hacker. No boycott there. Nothing! Why? Cuzz no one cares.

Sexjacket
11th January 2007, 18:42
Alucard is right, huked keeps repeating himself. Alucard makes his point understood, half the people understand it half don't. Why does meatwad randomly capitalize words....

alucardxxx
11th January 2007, 18:50
I just read the other part of meatwad's post. It is the dumbest shit iv ever read. 5 ppl see you hacking in pig beach. Wats ur point? Who cares? Im serious! You care! Because you wanna hack at pig beach but all the channels are full. Public or not public hacking is illegal. There are no rules to follow, no morals to be guided from. NOTHING. So stop your little bitching about hacking with conditions, because no one is going to buy it.

FYI: While you bot, you are afk. When you are afk, you dont
Waste hours of your life on nothing Thats the whole purpose.

schematical
11th January 2007, 19:32
Project MS was something interesting to read. Leeching has caused alot of people to hack in MapleStory, that is true. But eventually those leechers will stumble upon a guide to create their own hacks in which they understand, as did most of the people that agree with huked. They feel now that they shouldn't share the hacks they have with anyone else, what if the people that YOU leeched from decided to do this a long time ago? You wouldn't have learned how to find hacks and would not know what you do today. Point being, mpcforum is a place to share information, not start campaigns and not share. I myself do not understand 3/4 of the guides to make/find my own hacks, so I try to learn them, I understand that some other just leech and don't try to learn. But we should all just try to help each other out and stop fighting because we are ruining this community...

Lateralusticus
11th January 2007, 19:34
Yeah, I understand where both sides are comming from, and I respect both of you in your opinions. But, huked shouldn't be flaming this guys thread because its just his opinion. And story is, most of mpc is leechers and maybe 10%? of MPC are "pro" hackers. I think in this argument, most people would support alucard and not huked, simply because of mpc's population. But all in all, I don't think we should have flame wars over this. Some hacks will stay private, and some will be public, we don't have control over that (unless you made it of course).

to zormen: I totally understand your last statement. It completely describes me. xD

Tather
11th January 2007, 20:01
"Some hacks will stay private, and some will be public, we don't have control over that (unless you made it of course). "

That depends.

If you made it, and RELEASED it, you gave up all the control you had. It is no longer yours. It belongs to the people that downloaded it.

alucardxxx
11th January 2007, 20:05
If you made it, and RELEASED it, you gave up all the control you had. It is no longer yours. It belongs to the people that downloaded it.

Finaly someone understand how things work. That is why Project MS is full of shit. Morals, rules etc. How lame

xXmeatwadXx
12th January 2007, 01:10
I just read the other part of meatwad's post. It is the dumbest shit iv ever read. 5 ppl see you hacking in pig beach. Wats ur point? Who cares? Im serious! You care! Because you wanna hack at pig beach but all the channels are full. Public or not public hacking is illegal. There are no rules to follow, no morals to be guided from. NOTHING. So stop your little bitching about hacking with conditions, because no one is going to buy it.

NO you *****, Look at my Sig, Im not a hacker anymore because i see what its like for legits, its rediculous, i dont wanna hack at pig beach id like to level, And no I wasnt talking about botting and wasting hours im talking about making a character that you play and hack on not afk, once its banned, there goes Time from your life

Its pointless huked isnt the only one that feels this way, if youd read posts from a while ago a few others all think alike
im not ******* up you *****, i know how to find addresses and i dont need them and wtf why bring source into this, Yes theres lots of hackers But theres HOw many servers? And hell how many are for just hackers? ITs a hell of alot more spread out so your not constantly seeing a hacker, i can play cs source on a different server every hour for a week and not see a hacker

Huked
12th January 2007, 02:43
So you telling me you never was a leech, the almighty computer god came to you and gave you the knowledge you have now so we all should praise you. Here is the truth you dont want your hacks to be leeched keep them to yourself, but let others that want to share theirs do whatever the f they want. Im not an expert yet, but I was once a leecher and now is time for me to give back
No, I never said that and your trying to put words in my mouth. You don't have to leech to learn, all you have to do is either watch others do it and learn from that or learn by asking questions or learn by actually reading tuts.


I'm not a kid that brags, I'm a kid that knows that you can't succeed in life by leeching.

Reality check, this is a game and not life. And your point also fails in reality. People like Donald Trump have succeeded but they "leeched" off their parents money and others to get where they are also.

My point is people that think they are making a difference but aren't, like you and many others that try to flame me. If you really have a problem with me PM me about it instead of making threads about your issues with or about me. If you were mature enough you would do it, but this just shows the lows people go to because they want to try to make an example out of someone which no one has done so far.

appalsap
12th January 2007, 03:03
Dont lock it, it is freedom of speech. Some guy exposed his point of view on hackers in MS, I exposed mine.

your "freedom of speech" means nothing here, dipshit. It was meant to protect the common man from the U.S government imposing censorship upon him, nothing to do with the internet nor private establishments.

zinzanna545
12th January 2007, 03:08
Its quite sad how your brain functions. What is the diffrence between a vase that you made, and a vase that you bought or were given to. You can still break it right? As soon as its yours, you can do w.e you want with it. The hacks, as soon as they are released, you can do w.e you want with them. Sell em on the internet for money, edit them and pretend you made them, ANYTHING.

So you tell me, where your "they deserve to" comes in.

What you just said in your post, proves that you are doing this to piss off people. You said yourself that you dont like ppl who hack in public they leech, they have no moral. Ur just full of bullshit. If you really thought that way, you wouldnt care weather the hacks were made by one or another, you would just want some moral. Instead ur just a douchebag causing havoc.

That is why your project will fail without a doubt. If you dont even believe in your own values...quite sad.

BRAVO!!! SIMPLY AND TO THE POINT !!! BRAVO

Huked
12th January 2007, 03:16
bravo? You really just proved me right about certain people on this forum.

Tather
12th January 2007, 03:37
You learnt from tuts? How is that any different?

Most hacks you have to do manualy, meaning you're learning what you're atually doing as you go. So what's the difference between a "full tut" and one saying "Go to AA, blaa blaa"?

Fully written scripts, however, are somewhat different. People come on here, sign up, download a UCE and a .CT (Such as Ice's) and all they have to do is tick a box. THAT, i would consider lazy. Nothing more. The same way someone will pay a cleaner to clean for them. It makes their life easy, and who are we to dictate what's right or wrong about it?

Huked
12th January 2007, 03:45
You can learn from tuts, or you can learn from watching and just applying some kind of thinking to it, it really isn't hard if you even try. I'm not responding to anymore flamers so you can just keep talking your bs but I'm not going to lower myself to your level just so you can feel as if you have accomplished something.

Tather
12th January 2007, 03:52
*laughs*

1. Name one post where I've flamed you?

2. Lowering yourself? This is a discussion. And purely by the WORD itself there's going to be a mix of opinions. Everyone is just expressing thiers, just because it's not the same as yours, doesn't make it wrong.

Huked
12th January 2007, 04:07
Wasn't applied to you, it was aimed at everyone that's been trying to flame me.

XxOsirisxX
12th January 2007, 04:20
This thread is full of flames, i should close it..

Thread Closed.