ICQ vs AIM

[Felix]

Title says it all.

[wooolF[RM]]

miranda! ( ICQ + MSN + AIM in one or just ICQ with MSN or ICQ + AIM or just AIM or just MSN etc etc etc (you can combine it yourself) )

see screenshot here : http://web1.server126.notraffic.de/wooolf/miranda/miranda.gif

[Felix]

Lol, nice desktop. Isn't that like trillian?

[wooolF[RM]]

uhm... trillian takes many protocols in one... miranda does same but...

miranda = open source
miranda = +250 plugins
miranda = free!
miranda = your own feel and look ( skins, icons, plugins, look etc )
miranda = ICQ (was started as clone of ICQ) MSN AIM NETSEND IRC YAHOO and more

and my *personal humble* opinion : Trillian SUX :)

[Felix]

I agree, it does suck :)

[Jacobus]

Where could an innocent bystander in this debate pick up a safe copy of Miranda then, and how big is it?
cheers

[Da BuzZ]

http://miranda-icq.sourceforge.net/

And my vote goes to Miranda :p

[Jacobus]

I have downloaded the plugin for msn, but no matter where I putt the *.dll, it never works... how do I 'activate it' and get Miranda to use msn aswell?

[out.DarkCloud]

the only thing I didn't like about this was it didn't import my ICQ list to it. So I uninstalled it the moment I tried entering it through my ICQ number. Its no good if I have to get everyone's approval again.

[wooolF[RM]]

@ Jacobus > u put it into plugins folder, should be activated automatically...

@ DarkCloud > ICQ list? lol, newest ICQ store all of their contacts on the server, so just load up miranda and all of the contacts will be loaded from the server automatically... and if u use old version of ICQ that stores all of the info in the dat file, then there's a plugin for you that will do the job (import)... look for it at the official website...

[DarkCloud]

I activated Miranda and it didn't import my list :(

[Jacobus]

I'v put the plug in, and when I run Miranda, and go into options>Plugins, it's there, but how do I use msn through it, it seems to only be running ICQ at the moment

[Da BuzZ]

You need to put the plugins in the <Miranda IM>\plugins\ folder :)
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OMG... some1 voted AIM... /me looks @ wooolF[RM] :p

[Jacobus]

I did Da_BuzZ, I put the zipped up files in there, ASWELL AS the extracted *.dll file for msn. They are in the Miranda IM Plugins folder, and I can see them in Options>Plugins, so it is there ready to be used, just I cant seem to use msn through it! It just loads up, asks me to import some contact files for ICQ (I only want to use Msn and Aim not icq really), then when I cancel that, gives me the main screen .... FOR ICQ....
how do you use msn through Miranda?

[luck777jojo]

ok go into options....and in the bottom under "network" you'll see MSN click t and make sure you put in you MSN login/pass then hit apply and restart miranda.

[Jacobus]

ok thanx for the help... I found it, Ill just have to fiddle a bit ;)
note - does running msn mode in Miranda, look any different to the icq part? should anything change?

I added a friend's email address in the msn find users part to add to my contact list, and it found him and I added him, but wen he goes on MSN, he doesnt appear online!

[wooolF[RM]]

works fine here :) no idea actually...

and no, it should not change the look of miranda except for the user icons ( if u have default icons )

[DarkCloud]

hmm... Do I need a module to be able to run ICQ on miranda?

[Jacobus]

Wooolf
no idea actually...

Dont worry... Im sure I'll get it, if I have no luck, I guess I could look for instructions on the site!

[wooolF[RM]]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
hmm... Do I need a module to be able to run ICQ on miranda? '

miranda is a clone of ICQ (read IT IS ICQ)...
all those MSN AIM YAHOO etc are just some plugins...

[Jacobus]

Is there anything to get msn within Miranda to check your hotmail inbox, like the real msn does?

[luck777jojo]

yes there's a plugin on the main website called "popup" by HRK, just install that, it works and it also lets some other plugins work ;)

[DarkCloud]

I don't know why but it won't import my ICQ list :(

[luck777jojo]

make sure you have ICQ 2003a..... then close ICQ and start miranda.... it'll contact the server and import your ICQ contact list.

[Jacobus]

thanx luck - I got the popup plugin, and Miranda has it (new popup options have appeared etc.). And it is enabled, but it doesnt tell me when I recieve new emails!
why wont it? Do you have to check when you want to find out? isnt it automatic?

[wooolF[RM]]

it is automatic, just configure your smtp/pop3 servers and restart miranda, that should do it... (again, works here just fine and if u call that for being "cruel" then...)

[NightNinja]

as i told wooolF before, Miranda is nice but nothing can ever beat the Original AIM no matter what it has... If miranda somehow gets everything aim has and can make it look like AIM then maybe Miranda but for now i havn't seen anything close to it... + look @ the vote aim beats Miranda 4 - 2 :p

[Jacobus]

NN - how can you off all people... a GMOD, be a minion to those anti-christ bastards at AOL? hehe - I know it's not much, but I do my part, I must have over 200 AOLO cd's in by bottom draw at home... everytime I C them, I grab a few. That ll stop them spreading out so fast. If only everyone else did the same.
p.s. WooolF... chillout seriously, I already explained that... your not one to hold a grudge are you?
officially... I no longer think you are cruel, your a great help and an obvious asset to this community at MPC, just sometimes I think you can be a bit blunt. You are an evil admin.... dont get upset wen 1 demi-noob calls you cruel!

[wooolF[RM]]

I know I'm evil :p and no, I don' hold grudges... at least I try to forget them :)

[DarkCloud]

whenever I know I'm going to have guests over and I"m short of coasters or if I'm in the mood to play frisbee with my dogs or err... cat, I go to the local store and pick up a couple of AOL CD's.

They really know how to make a good coaster :D

[luck777jojo]

hehe..... that's the best use for those cds :p ;)

[DarkCloud]

they make great cheap christmas ornaments too! hehe

Probably would make great mirrors too... but I like gutting out the cds so its a nice clear dessert plate hehe

[bigtimestuff]

Me and my cousin had cd wars with them and our old cds; throwin them like frisbees. Those fkers can hurt! ;]

[nightmare]

You dont have to tell me that.I felt it more then once:cool:

[MrSmily]

ICQ v AIM = ICQ teh winnar

never used miranda, anyone wanna gimmie link?

[nightmare]

IQU for me,I never used AIM before.

[wooolF[RM]]

Originally posted by MrSmily
never used miranda, anyone wanna gimmie link?

http://miranda-icq.sourceforge.net/

[o({})o]

Personally I like AIM by itself the best. However, the other two are nice. However, I get far fewer spams of porn related links from AIM than ICQ....

[wooolF[RM]]

cause ICQ is used way more then AIM
and there's setting in original ICQ to not recieve messages from not authorized users / not recieve pagers / not recieve webpages etc... everything very easy to configure, question is if u're too lazy to protect yourself...

same with your own box, if u don't protect it, someone will "hack" it with simple netbios and delete everything on your HDD or install a trojan on your pc...

first thing is antivirus, then simple firewall, then hardware firewall, then some more... more u do, lesser is the chance to get through and irritate you... simple and easy... everything depends on your lazyness

[luck777jojo]

hey...... it all depends on laziness..... the entire world depends on laziness...... if you're too lazy to lock the door to your house.... expect it to be robbed. Same with computers

[nightmare]

What do you mean same with computers,you cant lock computers.

[wooolF[RM]]

lol, sure u can :) try to access NASA's mainframe... cmon, just try... u'll be shot on the place just before u even THINK about it :) it's protected physically and from Internet hackers...

if we talk about normal box... u can protect it with a decent firewall and put your case in special safebox or some towers have special extra holes which u can use to close your tower with wires or even weld it to the floor... everything depends on the data u have in your box and how valuable u think it is and how paranoid u are :)

[nightmare]

Well nothing is impossible(for example do you know how many times the pentagon has been hacked) but one thing,im learning c++ 6.0 now but I need some more turritorails.
Aney ideas or links?

[o({})o]

MSDN ;).

[nightmare]

Originally posted by o({})o
MSDN ;).


Whats MSDN?

[wooolF[RM]]

http://msdn.microsoft.com/

[nightmare]

Originally posted by wooolF[RM]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/

Thx m8 might come in handy.

[wooolF[RM]]

next time if u're curious what is what, go to www.google.com and search for it :)

Google is your friend :)

[o({})o]

Microsoft Developer Network is perhaps the largest source for code, examples, and related files for all of MS coding products and equipment.

[Jacobus]

sheesh, whoever voted AIM over Miranda clearly has never tried it, and doesnt know what Miranda is at all. Thanx for your help guyz with Miranda, I know use it instead of ICQ and MSN together! it's so amazing!... takes a bitta configuring tho! Also.... anyone whose interested... do a search on gooogle for uses of an AOL cd.... those are amusing (one site I went to had this;
Equipment needed;
200 AOL Cd's
some good shit hardcore glue
some scissors/a hard, strong, stupid friend whose willing to snap CD's over his head
an enemies car
god... the fun I had...
theres like a site titled '101 things to do with AOL CD's'
pure genius.... lol

[nightmare]

Originally posted by Jacobus
sheesh, whoever voted AIM over Miranda clearly has never tried it, and doesnt know what Miranda is at all. Thanx for your help guyz with Miranda, I know use it instead of ICQ and MSN together! it's so amazing!... takes a bitta configuring tho! Also.... anyone whose interested... do a search on gooogle for uses of an AOL cd.... those are amusing (one site I went to had this;

god... the fun I had...
theres like a site titled '101 things to do with AOL CD's'
pure genius.... lol

Well I voted for IQU cuase I never tried miranda or AIM.

[Jacobus]

kinda a good call there, but miranda is everything - ICQ, AIM MSN, Yahoo IM, everything U want, with icons, sounds and smileys, and email notifyers, and ICQ's sms service!
U gottsta get Miranda!

[Syphon]

Well TBH Miranda pwns the others, except sometimes certain people using ICQ can't see what I type.

Some other statistic:
From 1999-2000 there were 500,000 hacking attempts at N.A.S.A

[nightmare]

Originally posted by Syphon
Well TBH Miranda pwns the others, except sometimes certain people using ICQ can't see what I type.

Some other statistic:
From 1999-2000 there were 500,000 hacking attempts at N.A.S.A

And how many succeseeded?

[Syphon]

I don't think very many lol.

[o({})o]

NASA is not abbr. it doesn't need .'s ;). neither does USA, so i not know why people put them in.....

[Jacobus]

hebe - this is true indeed.... not that we should really care...hehe
syphon - I doubt any really!

[luck777jojo]

Originally posted by dutch freak
And how many succeseeded?

well..... if they succeded then I doubt that anyone would have found out about them, so I doubt that they would be in those statics ;)

[nightmare]

Originally posted by luck777jojo


well..... if they succeded then I doubt that anyone would have found out about them, so I doubt that they would be in those statics ;)

LOL,but what would they do if you sucseeded and they found out?Jail?

[Syphon]

Bah, force of habit i guess hebe.

[o({})o]

No problems :). I don't really care, but I have excessive compulsive disorder..... you should see me when I take notes, if something is out of place, I feel compelled to erase it and rewrite it........ I have written and erased some things over 10 or 15 times before accepting them....... Oh well, no biggy :).

[bigtimestuff]

hom much do you have it? Its called perfectionism too, im like that when i write serious papers and stuff, always erasing, editing. But one time I sat next to this guy on an airplane who had O.C.D really alot. And he kept moving things around and smashing things and going crazy:laugh: It was great.

[Jacobus]

wicked!
back on topic though;
has anyone who voted, not tried Miranda?

[meuh]

icq all the way here

[Jacobus]

meuh - you obviously havent tried Miranda, as without any plugins, it is ICQ, yet smaller and uses up less RAM and bandwidth. The main advantage is then that you can add on MSN, YahooIM, AIM etc. any IM you can think of to run in Miranda aswell. You can sign into all of them with one click, and it makes liefe so simple if say most of your friends use MSN, because of school, a few that you met online use ICQ, and some poor people you know use AIM, and you need to talk to them to. It's great!

[nightmare]

Originally posted by Jacobus
wicked!
back on topic though;
has anyone who voted, not tried Miranda?

I dint tryed Miranda

[Jacobus]

seriously - click the link in my sig to go to my site, and get miranda from there - U gotta try it!

[nightmare]

Originally posted by Jacobus
seriously - click the link in my sig to go to my site, and get miranda from there - U gotta try it!


THX,ill try it.

[Jacobus]

like???

[nightmare]

Originally posted by Jacobus
like???

No not really

[Jacobus]

what dont you liek about it? it;s simple and easy... the only problem is, as I mentioned on my site, configuring it. when you get that sorted though, it's gr8 and well worth it!!!

[nightmare]

Originally posted by Jacobus
what dont you liek about it? it;s simple and easy... the only problem is, as I mentioned on my site, configuring it. when you get that sorted though, it's gr8 and well worth it!!!

I completly messed up the configriation so I dont think im gonna try to configurate it again.

[SPYDERYDER]

msn messenger all the way baby

[Syphon]

LOL msn is a pile of wank. You cant send messages to people when they are offline, it uses a lot of RAM and a lot of bandwidth. The only good thing about v.6 is avatars. (and maybe games).

[nightmare]

Originally posted by Syphon
LOL msn is a pile of wank. You cant send messages to people when they are offline, it uses a lot of RAM and a lot of bandwidth. The only good thing about v.6 is avatars. (and maybe games).

What?! is v6 out already??? Where can I find it?
And what do you mean about smileys.

[Granhammer]

ICQ - That is what I use...

[Syphon]

Avatars, like you have on this forum. You see the avatar of the person you are chatting with. Look on google for MSN Messenger 6.0 beta