Ultimate starting guide to Halo online

[nightmare]

Halo can be very difficult,some people already played it on XBOX,but for the persons who dint(like me) can have problems in the beginning.There some thing you have to keep in mind as a beginner:

*NEVER rush into battle like Rambo does,you will get killed 9/10 times before you even made a kill.

*Use vehicels wisely and dont drive as a maniac,the vehicle will crash and in the time when you are flipping over the vechile you might get killed by others.

*When you see someone else entering a vehicle,support him,this way you both stand more chanch to surive.

*In CTF games,once you get the enemy flag,DONT run outside pass enemy in the hope to reach the nearby vehicle,you will fail almost every time.Wait till the enemy starts looking outside or in other places of the base(the base always has to exits)and then carefully go to your vehicle r to your base.

*Always make use of an vehicle if you see one and your on foot.

*When you picked up active camouflage dont fight when you see a enemy,its camoflage after all,and dont run exacly past an enemy,try to keep your distance.

*A good tactic is to overrun people,it may be allitle noobish but its very effective.

So keep those starting tips in mind and you will soon get the hang of the game in no time.Further id encourage everyone in playing this game and if you need anymore tips or you have anymore questions,just pm me,or sent me an mail or come between 7.30 gmt+01 till 8.30 gmt+01(on mondays till tuesdays) or between 12.00 gmt+01 21.00 gmt+01(on thursdays till sundays) on the mirc channel of mpc(link is on the bottem of every page)of which im usaly there to under the nbame nightmare.

~nightmare

[Gregsy]

nice one .. that will be usefull

[reaper89]

nice post man :)

[Dark_Shadow]

Cool nice guide nightmare i always drove like a maniac lol and some times when i fliped it i killed couple enemys.

[Gregsy]

just started halo online , sniping is a very useful skill
thanx againfor the guide

[Dark_hades]

Nice guide, you pointed out some very good things.

[munkeegutz]

let me add my advice:

sniping is cool, but due to lag issues, very diffuclt. only snipe when the target is standing still, or theres a very, very small ping


despite the sound of it, the rocket warthog is not as good as it seems...the rockets travel verry slowly and you only have 3 before you reload. use a normal warthog when possible

NEVER leave in a warthog without a gunner. it's sucicide. you're defenceless and just gave the enemy a car

sometimes you can crouch under a ghost trying to run you over

Click every single time you want to fire the pistol...its about 10x as accurate that way

the passenger seat in a hog is useless...only use it for transit. same for the side seat of a tank

refer to http://3dap.com/halo/articles/staff/askabanshee.asp and ist sequel, http://rampancy.net/?q=node/view/6708 for the skillz on banshee flying. http://www.the-junkyard.net/strategies-halo.php?action=viewstrategy&id=22 is good too. read them all.

teamwork = good. I'm pretty good, but a team of 3 noobies that work together will own me anyday if my team isn't working together.

close range, Rocket Launcher>Fuel Rod Gun

the assult rifle sucks. its not as bad if you fire it in bursts...accuracys better that way


my choice for weapons, from best to worst

Rocket--ALWAYS...unless it has 1 or less ammo
FRG
Pistol
flame thrower (in certian close rang conditions...inside bases comes to mind)
Shotgun
Sniper (in some occasions)
Plasma rifle
Assult rifle
needler
plasma pistol

overcharge plasma pistol will take out shields no matter what. if a tank has 4 passangers and a driver in it, all with full overshields and 400%health and shields, one plasma pistol will still empty the shields.
however, overcharge is an ammo hog. one overcharge shot=55 normal plasma pistol shots

the plasma pistol fires as quickly as you can click...faster even than the plasma rifle! click quickly! DO I HEAR PISTOL HACK?!?

pistol (normal) + a short range weapon (or FRG/RL) is a deadly combo

always keep your weaker weapon out...dont let them see what good weapon you have.

if you have a sniper rifle (or pistol) (sniper for best results) and a heavy weapon (FRG/RL) and theres a banshee in the sky, shoot it with the sniper to get its attention, find some cover, and nail it when it trys to run you over

if you have the flag and theyre sniping you on foot, run unpridictablly! strafe randomally, jump, but dont do it at regular intervals! you might just make it despite your disadvantage (blood gultch comes to mind...i just did a cap with this one)

Dont TK. youle be banned and hated.

good luck! you can find me as 'a vehicle'...somewhere...

dear God, I hope I don't have to fight someone who has read and listened to this. that will be hell.

good luck all

[Gregsy]

nice addition, if your on a broadband or faster with a 300 or less ping place, sniping is no bother

[munkeegutz]

yeah, true...my brodbands not that great...but also, as you should have noticed, even in lan games where there is no lag, or on a xbox split scree, you still have a little trouble because of the time it takes for the bullet to move.

that reminds me...


EVERY weapons bullets take time to move, even the pistol. the bullets are also ever-so-slightly affected by gravity, with the exception of the needler, sniper rifle, and rocket launcher. this is most notable in the shotgun, where there is a tendency for the bullets to land in the lower half of the crosshair.

make sure, if possible, to never let your gun overheat so much that you have to let it cool. this is slightly more ammo expensive (for plasma weapons) and it takes much more time for you to fire again than if you had let it cool down. first.

tanks are banshee killers. unless its right above you, you should always try to get that banshee.

Death island only: park a tank out in the waters near the enemy base, another on the teleporter exit point for the shade for the enemy base, and get a banshee and a guy with a flamer on the main teleporter exit. the rest of your guys should go and get their viechles away from them. blockade city. makes scoring for either team impossible though.

in reference to the last one, if someone does this, then do the following: wait till the banshee is away for a sec, go through the teleporter backwarrds, and keep backing away after you go through, shooting the guy with the flamer with your pistol in the meantime. he wont kill you unless he's really good. like me. :cool: just kidding. then, once he's dead, grab the sniper, headshot the guy in the tank near the shade...he prob wont notice you for a while, hell be paying attention to the ground level of the base, but still do it quick. then get up top and snipe the other tanks. Bolckade broken. once you do this, check with your sniper if theres guys from the enemy's base's teleporters. if so, snipe them or run out of ammo trying. then take the tank on the shade and drive it over to THEIR main teleporter hehehe

:kngt:

I really don't know what this guy's doing, but he invaded this post and cut me short.

if i remember anything else, ill tell you guys

we should have a scheduled halo game for the MPC fourmgoers...but no cheats...hopefully. then nightmare and I could show you guys some REAL tricks.

well? any takers?

but I dont have a fast enough connection...only good for like 6 peeps...so a T1 person will have to come and host.

[munkeegutz]

I think that one of the hackers in here would be able to make a pistol hack...use a check to see if the plasma pistol is out...then say that if the mouse is clicked, have it click constantally with 1ms delays. it would make the pistol all powerwul

I dont quite understand C++ yet...I am also taking a java course so its going slowly

Ill work on figuring it out myself. if someone else takes it, tell me.

[Gregsy]

ok, you need a hack like phears, but it only works when you host a server, send me an e-mail and i will speak to you more about it

[munkeegutz]

I have phears...but owning while cheating isn't any fun. this is how you own fairly.

every once and a while, I use that and speedhack. but it takes the fun out of the game. Its all the more fun when you get banned for cheating...when you werent cheating.

thats happened to me once. but the people really sucked. it was funny.

[Gregsy]

yeah, you dont need mine then, it is like phears, only for the 2nd exe version

[munkeegutz]

yeah...I dont host servers anyways. I was just joking around on the other thread.

I, personally, dont like getting banned, so I keep my cheating to a minimum.

my brother, on the other hand, is a different story...

[Gregsy]

hahaha, im afraid to say, im a bit like you aswell

[munkeegutz]

yeah. anyways, I only play on 3-4 servers most of the time. the HBO ones. their admins are on all the time. also, if I am really good (im ok, working on it) without cheats, all the more ownage with them. thats the idea.

[Gregsy]

yeah, i tend to stick to fast games, dont bother with admins, and i strive for perfection, even when i dont use cheats alot

[munkeegutz]

yep. thats the way to do it.

once again, remembering something:
another cheap trick, this time in danger canyon, is to, at the start of the map, quick hop in a ghost and haul ass to the middle of the map, where the structure is. if youre lucky, they wont see you as they drive by. usually, i am lucky 2/3 of the time. anyways, hop out, get the frg(or RL, depending on weapon sets) from the side of the structure oppisite the ramp, and then go in between the ramps and pick up the cameo. if youre REALLY slow(I think that active cameo spawns first, and then they alternate every 60 secs) it will be ovrshield. this assumes that you have cameo. now, the cameo lasts 45 secs. haul butt to the enemy base, and hop out right before that hill immeadiately before the base. walk right in.
now, youre at their base in under 45 secs with a heavy weapon, active cameo, all the people have rushed out to attack your base, and havent had a chance to die yet, and there are usually too many vehicles for all of them to be gone in the begining(if otherwise, take the ghost you left earlier). do the math.
this works at other times, but to a lesser effect, as somebody has surely recently died.


defence: keep a look out in the middle in the beginning of the game. mabey, dont rush out in the beginning of the game, instead hiding and waiting for someone else who read this or knows the basic idea.

this is one of my favorite attack techniques. I just love it.

i just remembered to say this too:
sniping note:
it takes about 100ms to refire the sniper rifle. if the ping is at least 50, that means that you can fire (and land) 2 shots by the time the opponent found out you shot the first and his reactant signal reached the server. this means that sometimes, the body shot is preferable because of its higher hit chance.
of course, on a stationary target, a headshot saves ammo. still gotta love the head shot.

also, head shots do more dammage for every non explosive weapon in the game (everything but needler, RL, Flamer...even tho its not explosive)

with the RL and FRG, its better to shoot the floor below a player than to try for a direct hit. you still get about 85% dammage, which is almost always plenty to drop someone at normal health.

dont hump flaming bodies. i died once this way.


everyone know how to do the sidewinder sneak? it dosent work on HPC, but is still important. visit http://halot.bungie.org/tipsntricks/display.html?collection=nemesis007.swsneak
for details. the point is, on timberland, there are hills on the left side of both bases (facing them from outside) use the sidewinder sneak into that barrier just right to be knocked above, outside the level.
unfortuneatually, you cant get down if you like have the flag or something. you can however, shoot weapons,throw nades, and drop the flag past the barrier.

you can also use the sneak to get HALF way i nto the wall inside and in the back of death island bases.

[Gregsy]

you fair know your glitches etc, another nice edition, well done

[munkeegutz]

yea...I only play about 1-2 games at a time, but i spend alot of time, do lots of research, and master them. if they are not games which require enough skill for me to become better than the rest, then theyre not worth playing.

good feedback keeps me coming to tell more.

but NOW, I have a paper to write, so I wont be able to say anything.

...scratch that...

frags are better than plasma grenades. frags have slightly more power, bounce off walls, and explode as soon as they come to a complete stop. plasma nades have a 3 second timer after they stop, but stick and dont bounce much. really, the amount of time between when you throw a frag and a plasma and when they explode is about 2 seconds, which is a ton in a game.

there are still times when I use plasmas tho. if a ghost is charging me, I will go for the stick. in hang em high, a plazzie will hit the wall on the enemy base from a distance and drop down, exploding on the enemys, while a frag will bounce off the wall and away from the base.

however, if a HOG is chasing me, frags are usually preferable, as they exploode quick and can flip it, making the riders pistol bait (I always carry my pistol with me for such occasions...as well as almost everything else.


if a guy with a flame thrower is trying to kill you, just start backing away(not off a cliff) and capping him with a pistol. the flamer's effectiveness drops off really quickly, and you should be pretty far away and pretty much killed him before he can stop shooting, back away himself, switch to his other weapon, wait for the smoke to clear, and start to cap you.

also, in BG if you go through a base's teleporters, to the right is a cave system which provides a perfect view and cover for pistol sniping...also considering that there is pistol ammo in the cave leading up to this wonderful spot...

also, on one base, to the right and about halfway between the base and the teleporter, on the canyon wall is a slant which mostly hides you and is high enough to allow for a perfect vantage point for sniping.

on the other base, after going through the teleporter (the exit should be in shade), walk fowards, and there should be a slant(MUCH smaller then the last one mentioned) which is about 1-1.5 master chiefs tall and also lets you snipe at the enemy with your favorite 'tick someone off' weapon (rocket launcher, pistol, sniper rifle) pretty soon, someone will realize youre shooting at them and will run down tworads you. back up, run into the cave on your right, and wait for them to come, youre frag and short rang weapon ready (this is one of the only times an AR is good) nail them.

also, always think about where you are, what vehicle youre hopping into(and as such, what you want out when you hop out of the vehicle) what kind of fighting there is, and what you want your enemy to see. take that into consideration. usually, except in the middle of gultch, on top of death island, or other places where there is no real way for you to be snuck up to, have your short range weapon out(except if it a heavy weapon) (once again, keep it out if the guy is sure to die so quick it wont matter wether he sees it)

in close areas, be careful of using the RL and FRG. you could quite easily kill yourself

all plasma weapons have a stunn effect except for nades, needler and FRG

if you crouch right before you land, you might not take dammage and the resultant stun effect(about .5 seconds)

plasma weapons are good for shields, progetile weapons for health(like AR and shotgun) and the RL just owns. needlers, rocket launchers and FRGs use explosive dammage, which does simmilar dammage despite wether youre against sheilds or health (although more to health, when theres a chance to notice it...most people die when hit with an explosive without shields) flamers use a different dammage type, which i dont quite understand.

the flamer burns walls, vehicles, corpses, you...you can take dammage from any of those things.

as most know, a plasma nade does equal dammage to whatever its stuck to, be it a toe or a head. either way, its usually a death scentence, so what does it matter?

usually, if a plasma nade is in rang to do dammage, at 100% health, it will take out shields at least.

if a bullet or plasma weapon hits a vehicle all the occupants take equal dammage. if it hits a person, it will do dammage to that person in the vehicle. if its explosive dammage, a set dammage will be done to everyone, but splash dammage will be divided approiateably. that way, you can hit the back of a hog, and everyone die but the dirver.

so much for the paper...


EDIT: doing more research, I redetermined what I thought earlier, with explosive dammage, a slightly decreased splash dammage is recieved in vehicles

[Gregsy]

well, i have it sorted, i dont want to play against you now, well done and good luck with the paper

[munkeegutz]

lol. I finished the paper later last night. its a research paper and isnt due till a week from monday. arent I such a good student?

and...despite what this suggests, I am not an ultimate player at halo. this was meant to help everyone here understand the game better and be able to invent new tatics of their own. I only work hard to pay attention to those things in more serious matches, or duels. usually, I play much more laid back and ignore most of those things because they take too much thinking and I usually just play for fun. But...its still nice to know them for when that oppurtune moment comes and you can utterly obliterate the opponent. thats great fun. just shouting over chat OWNED over and over....

oh, yeah, one more thing...then Ill be tapped. I was emailed by one of my friends and master tricksters. he mentioned this page:

http://files.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=186

that sounds like fun, but since im not allowed to play durring the week, I cant try that out till tomorrow(friday)


someday, when I dedicate myself more to the cause, Ill also make this guide into one huge picture, allowing a better explanation of the tricks. now...back to making a blood gultch map where the active cameo dosent work...and everything is mostly transparent. Ill upload a ppf when finished...if i actually get done. who knows? I might get sidetracked and start playing final fantasy again...

[Gregsy]

once again well done, i will now leave on a good part, thanx for the help and cya around

[munkeegutz]

NP gregsy. anyone who wants to ask me a question about halo, my stratagies, etc is welcome to ask. I dont think I have enough posts to use PM though, so just ask here.

likewise, if there is any other way i can help out, just ask.

[Mr. Optimistic]

To unlock two new guns, first beat the game on the easiest setting (Easy), and then on the hardest setting (Legendary) in under 3 hours. Not quite for a newbie though.

[munkeegutz]

ok. just shut up. there are no new guns. everything you see in Halo right now is everything that is there. Checking the map files, there are no other, undiscovered map files. Not to mention that, many thanks to gregsky's halo hack, I DID defeat Legendary under 3 hours a few months ago, just to finally prove that one false.

There is, however, the gravity rifle, which is unfinished in the game, but you cant do dammage with it, so it dosent count