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Skyline-SX
18th February 2004, 13:01
I have a question when i play with hack i make a screenshot and we can see some color,no,fog... So i want to know, if there are an admin on the server, he will see me play like the screenshot?

GTA-fan
18th February 2004, 14:25
that is easy to see, yeah he would see it but there are no admins on officials so they can not see it ;) so just dont cheat at leased servers or whatever

mlitn
18th February 2004, 15:18
no, the admin won't see that you use no fog etc, cause he has no edited map file
the only way he might think you use it is if you keep shooting guys from real far

Goldenwonder
18th February 2004, 19:32
im the best sniper ;)
the admin can see if your cheating but try to use commando's guid
allot of tips in there

kyu28
18th February 2004, 22:21
Admin CAN SEE that u have no Fog on map(PB screenshot's do this very quickly:bunny: )... Second Thing is that admin can set server config to automatically check MD5 on your PC...

Sry for my English...Im lurking at this forum from many months (this is my first post)but I must tell u that...

commando127
18th February 2004, 22:41
Originally posted by kyu28
Admin CAN SEE that u have no Fog on map(PB screenshot's do this very quickly:bunny: )... Second Thing is that admin can set server config to automatically check MD5 on your PC...

Sry for my English...Im lurking at this forum from many months (this is my first post)but I must tell u that...

There are no admins on official servers, only clan/user owned servers.

The admin might check for MD5 but so what you get kicked, you won't get banned. I think 1 kick out of ever 20 or so times you play isn't bad :/ maybe even more. . .

kyu28
18th February 2004, 22:54
Yes but admins, (I think) can look at pb logs few times at week( month ) and can ban U from serwer... This maybe is not GUID ban but always BAN!( yep, we have many servers around the world), but they can tell that to ppl from EB to ban that GUID. Can U correct my opinion if Im wrong...?


ps. Im a pessimist:(

commando127
18th February 2004, 23:19
Punkbuster can only ban you if they catch you red handed. They can't ban you over word of mouth.

kyu28
18th February 2004, 23:52
Yes, but u can see that dev's can do anything with your account. This may be cheat for few days...But after that time u may see your account banned... This can be like silient PB BAN. This is an OFFICIAL servers, that servers are very important to Army ( and DEVS, i think).
I repeat, u r nothing to DEV's, they can do anything they want with your account. U dont pay, cannot expect any mercy...

commando127
19th February 2004, 00:10
You where talking about TWL Anti Cheat tool.

You asked if you got caught on TWL could you get banned by PB and the answer was no.

Sure the devs can do whatever they like but they won't ban people over word of mouth. If so then i could just be like "So and so is cheating ban him" when i could be a load of BS.

barry_white
19th February 2004, 01:36
Originally posted by kyu28
Yes, but u can see that dev's can do anything with your account. This may be cheat for few days...But after that time u may see your account banned... This can be like silient PB BAN. This is an OFFICIAL servers, that servers are very important to Army ( and DEVS, i think).
I repeat, u r nothing to DEV's, they can do anything they want with your account. U dont pay, cannot expect any mercy...

One question, are you an AC?

kyu28
19th February 2004, 12:20
AC? I dont understand... Active Cheater? :)

Liquid77
19th February 2004, 16:00
Sometimes there are admins in official servers, or when u spent a lot of time owning a server, someone calls an admin, and he might apppear, now, the admin cant see your bot working, but he can tell by the way you see people far away, by the constantly headshoting, aiming acurecy, if they suspect they banne you no prob, and yes devs are Banning people with nicknames like those we use in mpc forums, so dont be that stupid.

barry_white
19th February 2004, 16:11
Originally posted by kyu28
AC? I dont understand... Active Cheater? :)

Anti-cheater?


Originally posted by Liquid77
Sometimes there are admins in official servers, or when u spent a lot of time owning a server, someone calls an admin, and he might apppear, now, the admin cant see your bot working, but he can tell by the way you see people far away, by the constantly headshoting, aiming acurecy, if they suspect they banne you no prob, and yes devs are Banning people with nicknames like those we use in mpc forums, so dont be that stupid.

Call an admin HOW? Are you talking about US Army Official servers?

kyu28
19th February 2004, 16:53
Anti Cheater? :) LOL :) No :)
Im just pessimist.
From few weeks Im trying to make cheat that cannot be caught by PB. NEVER :).
But not that complicated as EH, no visible markings on screen, no Aimbot. Only sound notification about cooked nades, enemy positions, messages like 'Someone aims at U!' etc... Just like AI in earphone :) U do all job in combat, but with few hints.

Liquid77
19th February 2004, 17:47
yes barry, sometimes there are devs or admins or whatever you call it in official servers, and once i saw a server with a guy owning no0bs like hell, and a guy went to call an admin, i thought it was ridicilus, but one thing for sure, 10 minuts later, the dude that was beeing owned entered again and told our teammates the admin was in, i pressed F1 and saw 1 guy in "spectator mode" for 2 rounds, i didnt see the end of it cause i disconnected from server so i wouldnt get caught, also iv read a threath somewere in AA official forums that you could call admins in case of cheating, its like a "911" call emergency that you can have couple hours a day when u spot a cheater. im not saying it really was an admin, could be a guy that didnt choose is team because he was on the phone at the moment, but as i allways say, better safe then sorry. besides realyse that some straight players get really pissed because they are seriusly raped by us, so it wouldnt be sutch a surprise.

barry_white
19th February 2004, 18:00
There are no way, right now, to call an admin in US Army Official servers. It's very well documented in the official forum. People are complaining a lot, everyday, about that fact.

Leased and Clan, We all know there are admins there.

Also, an admin won't be seen in the spectate mode in F1. My son is an (part-time) admin in a leased Clan server and I'm damn sure of this fact. I've played on his server and you cant see him and I was on the phone with him at the same time.

Skyline-SX
23rd February 2004, 17:52
But if an admin look me on spectator? he will see color,no fog.... or he must do something to sccan my cp?

Liquid77
23rd February 2004, 17:59
Originally posted by barry_white on 19th February 2004 at 15:00
There are no way, right now, to call an admin in US Army Official servers. It's very well documented in the official forum. People are complaining a lot, everyday, about that fact.

Leased and Clan, We all know there are admins there.

Also, an admin won't be seen in the spectate mode in F1. My son is an (part-time) admin in a leased Clan server and I'm damn sure of this fact. I've played on his server and you cant see him and I was on the phone with him at the same time.

i know barry, has i posted i didnt confirm it was an admin in spectator mod, iv refered mabye a guy on the phone or what ever, but the thing is that, sometimes PB admins or whatever, can go to servers and banne people if they catch them cheating, and this is possible, iv had 2 accounts banned with a hack that is not detected yet, and iv seen many people saying that they were gonna call an admin, so i think it might be possible for them to come on servers from time to time just to check things out. comon it wouldnt be that surprising.

barry_white
23rd February 2004, 19:25
If there was a way to call a PB admin in a US army official servers, don't you think it would be all over the official AA forums? That they take a look randomly on servers, nothing much we can do against that.. But it's not like the old Homelan's AGA service when you could alt-tab from your game and go in the official forum and call one. Right now, it does NOT exist.

And when a player says Im gonna call an admin, he's just trying to scare you to leave the server. I spammed some servers with advertising for MPC a lot of times, everytime they say I'll go call an admin, I always answer: Go for it! And guess what? Never seen one recently. Only thing they can do (on US Army Officials) is to try to votekick you.