punkbuster kicking for gamehacks update:

[caliber1942]

as many of us know already, punkbuster is kicking players that it detects using certain hacks. for one, the hack created by test0r is easily detected by punkbuster at this point. you shouldn't even be using that one on pb servers as it was designed to be used on non-pb servers.

from what i have gathered, there was an update recently that basically turned certain funtions of pb on and now it is scanning certain addresses and looking for changes in the program code.

the public trainer by test0r and also many private hacks were using the simplest of methods to hack the game. at this point simply NOPping addresses will no longer work and will be detected in certain areas.

as far as i can tell, only the minimaphack and likely the 3dmap/tag are the only two that are caught at this point, but don't hold me to that.

i tested my own hack which i only activated the minimaphack and the error reported was Gamehack: 80062. currently pb is issuing temp bans of 2 minutes for this infraction.

i never messed with the tag hack and so i cannot report if it is detected or what it's message is. if someone (test0r or spon) will send me the location in the code for the tag hack i will test it and also see if i can get an alternate way to crack it if it is detected. i do not know what the error/disconnect message is or will be for the tag/3dhack.

i tried several servers and played several times. it is pretty good at catching if you have the map on when using the simple method to create the map, so i think that the method for this is now over-

please post any findings about pb you have here, especially what you do or don't have working and also any error disconnect codes. i hope that now that pb is turned on and beginning to scan that we are more careful posting addresses and methods here so we don't give pb more information than necessary-

EDIT: blah- i updated my hack and used the methods that i used in bf1942 to create the map and it now works again. took like 10 minutes. it appears the same things that worked in bf1942 will work with vietnam. tested for 30 minutes and on several servers with pb on and it never kicked me. definitely a difference from using the method we started out with.

[Spontaneous]

I been using a good method all along so my hack was not touched one bit. I been playing away.

[caliber1942]

finally got around to hacking the tags and the 3d map. i went ahead and made two versions of the hack, one with just nops and the other i tried to make it undetectable. at any rate, it's late here so i will post how it works tommorrow since i haven't tried it online yet.

currently my hack has: minimap, no fog, increased viewdistance, zoom, tags, 3d map

once i verify the tags and 3dmap are undetected, i will be moving on to accuracy and then i will be trying to find the code that exactly draws the arrows onscreen and see if i can't change the arrow colors, etc.

not many posting errors or kicks after the scanning began, just those few in the pinned thread. i guess either people already worked around it or had it done the right way to begin with. or they are only using testor's hack on non-pb.

[bf194lover]

Well i dumped my scanner map after playing 30 mins and it looks like this:

Address | Length | possible Module |
--------------------------------------------------
...
<omitted for brevity>
....
00489FA2 | 6 | BFVietnam.EXE
00489FAD | 2 | BFVietnam.EXE
0048C120 | 6 | BFVietnam.EXE
00530E44 | 6 | BFVietnam.EXE
00530E4A | 6 | BFVietnam.EXE
005314C7 | 6 | BFVietnam.EXE
...
<omitted for brevity>
....

Regards

[Xare]

Sure just post those right in the open, Sheez.

Anyway, I just tested my trainer and my methods are still undetected by PB :-)

Map - infantry - vehicle
Tag
3D Tag
Accuracy
screenshot avoid

Iam gonna try to make % of damadge show up for Vehicles tags. But I dont see any way that you can have it for infantry. No full medic in Vietnam, and % of health no longer shows in tags.

[caliber1942]

thanks bf194lover, i appreciate you breaking down the scan locations and how far they scan-

[n00bie_gamer]

how can one make a SS avoid???

tnx guys

[caliber1942]

there are threads that talk about that specifically. do a search.

[Loke]

caliber can you plz send me your hack?

[caliber1942]

begging for hacks from members is not allowed. we are promoting people to use the public hack here on non-pb servers or create your own using the info provided on the forums-

[Loke]

oh im sorry
im a noob and i didnt know
where can i get any hacks
i dont know how to make hacks
the only thing i do in the bf community is mod

well maybe you can help me make a hack for bfv
im very interested in learning
you have aim, msn, etc

[Assasin497]

If you want to learn to hack go to the coding forums and read a couple of the pinned posts in that forum. There is one that basically outlines how you should learn to hack over 30 days. I am doing it this way but i am extending the time period. Mostly because i dont have a lot of time on the computer in the week let alone to play games.

Anyway just look around the coding forum and look at some of the threads here in this forum. You should start to learn pretty quick.

Sorry for this off topic post caliber i just thought i would try to help Loke out.

[Loke]

sorry for being such a noob
but where are those forms
can i get a link
thanks for your info
if any of you guys need help with modeling
just ask me, i can help

[Steatlh]

Loke (cough cough) you can get hacks right here buba.. THIS IS A WEBSITE FOR HACKING DUUURRRR. edited by admin LOL, jk. If you havint found out yet PB on BFV updates almost every day. The only chance you have of using your hacks would be in NON PB servers. OOHH one more thing stop putting your self down so that people can feel sry for you.... edited by admin

[Spontaneous]

Steatlh, your wrong. PB does not update every day. In fact they didnt even start scanning for hacks til just a couple days ago. They had 1 update and thats it. A lot of people here have a working hack that they made themselves, ON PB.

Loke, http://www.mpcheatz.de/mpc/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36018
Also you can just plain read all around the forums, both the 1942 and the vietnam forums. Both have lots of info. You can also use our forum search, http://www.mpcheatz.de/mpc/forum/search.php?s=

This is a non-pb hack for bf1942
http://www.mpcheatz.de/mpc/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35722
Here is the non-pb one for BF Vietnam
http://www.mpcheatz.de/mpc/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37027

[Googleh]

are you guys using a game trainer creator thing or are you making your own with vb or whatever?

iv got my stuff workin with tsearch but im clueless on where to go from here.. how to get it in trainer form and stuff... iv looked at tutorials about the trainer creators but iv also read that they are easily detected..

so what are you guys doing?

[Xare]

I use MASM to make a little trainer.

I dont know much about VB and I didnt have VB .net At first I was gonna look for it but ....

I knew a bit about ASM so I just used that instead :cool:


If your starting out you can use a Trainer maker Kit trainer and just close it after you enable your cheats. Its just annoying because each new map you have to alt tab and open the trainer agian.

[Googleh]

hmm and it wont get detected that way?

i think i can deal with alt tabbing heh cause i know nothing about vb or masm or anything... i read a tutorial on a different site about making a trainer in vb.. but the way it showed gave me some error sooo :/

[n00bie_gamer]

would that work with PB????


XARE got MSN?? I would like to get some info, or possible help please..... im making my MAP hack for BF, stuck on the part about Breakpoints, i put mine in etc... but I cannot locate the JNZ or whichever...

tNX MAN!

[Googleh]

ug... i tried putting the pokes tsearch gives me into a trainer creator .. and well.. the trainer doesnt work

:/
where am i going wrong

[Xare]

Well, closing the TMK trainer after you enable the cheats will keep PB from detecting the trainer. But if your using Nops at those addy's you will be detected. You need to use a differnt method to change the code or differnt addy's

and Googleh, did you link your trainer to BF with the window/process name ? maybe you forgot ?

[Googleh]

oh ya i dont think i did that.. lemme go back and check real quick..

and ya i didnt just nop it.. i did the codecave method thing.. and god that took me forever to figure out and i didnt even do it 100% right.. my name tags stay up but they kinda flash.. fade in and out

[n00bie_gamer]

Googleh.... mind lending me a hand on MSN? I'm stuck with code caves myself.... trying to get my map hack to work...

whats your MSN addy? i will add u since i don't have enuff posts for pm

thanks

[Googleh]

i am the wrong person to be asking that haha.. i got it to work by luck.. i just sat there and played with it for like a hour or 2.. and it finally worked lol

[Spontaneous]

I use VB.Net. For you people that dont know anything about vb, max power has made a trainer template for both VB.Net and ASM and NOW C# too. You can use these to make your own hack without using some kind of trainer maker kit that will get detected easy. You can goto his page and download. http://www.hex.gifgraphix.com/Max_Power/

[CaptainCox]

Thanks Spont havent looked at that link for a long time, Did not know he had done the template for ASM and C#.

[Spontaneous]

the C# one is new. I knew for some time that he had an ASM one up there. This link is in the Make Your Own Hack thread. Maybe I should point out a little bit more that there are templates there.

[Loke]

i have an idea
would you guys be able to modify pb files and replace them
so that pb thinks its enable but it doesnt scan for hacks
so you can use all hacks without gettin kicked
could you guys make it and post it on the site

[test0r]

thats not that easy. PB is a very complicated system that does more than just scanning. I think if you remove e.g. scanning the server notices that and kicks you. It is much better and easier to make a PB hack trainer than rewriting the whole DLL I think...

[Loke]

can you make your hack a pb hack

[test0r]

and then? wanna get global banned? no sorry, I am not going to ruin your CD-Keys

[caliber1942]

nice of max to make those available. having the template is just as important for non programming newbies as having the knowledge to hack the game.

[Loke]

if you make a pb hack
how will pb know someone using it is hacking
so they cant ruin your cd key
anyways you can all ways just buy a new game

[caliber1942]

that's what their software DOES. PB is designed to search for hacks and modifications to the game code. asking how it will do that is kind of an unusual question since it uses many methods to try and catch you. anyways, there are some members who have extensively looked at the pb dll and the way it works, but there aren't too many posts about it.

[Liberator]

or go on KaZaA and use someone elses CD key

[Spontaneous]

1st of all, using another persons cdkey like that is ILLEGAL, therefore not allowed to be talked about on these forums so no more talk about stealing or using of someone elses cdkey.

Loke, for a number of reasons why most of us feel not to release a public hack that works on PB servers.

1. They will just download the hack, make a signature for the hack, detect it.
2. From the downloaded hack, they can see what memory you are editting so detecting the memory offsets, there by detecting not only that public hack but any private hack using the same memory offsets.
3. There is a chance that people will get GLOBAL-GUID bans from using the hack(this has not been confirmed if they will do it for any public hack that they can make a signature for or just for hacks violating the EULA(like I believe).

[bonne]

I don't think EA gonna banned your CD-Key in all BFV servers, because you cheats. It is not illegal to use cheats and don't think is wrote something about in the license agreement.
You have bought the game and you can do what you want with, if it is not illegal

And if cheating had been illegal, this site will never had exist

Sorry for my bad english. Hope you understand

[CaptainCox]

Yo bonne, you have been member long enough to see what happend with people using the DazHack, or maybe U did not read the posts back then ;)

[Spontaneous]

You can get banned on all the punkbuster servers tho, as dazhack violated the End User License Agreement of punkbuster. So yes you can very much be banned on most of the servers. Since PunkBuster has been doing decent at keeping cheaters away, most servers have punkbuster enabled.

[bonne]

OK, sorry mates