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test0r
8th April 2004, 17:23
Hi guys!
I now finished version 1.0 of "BFV Multihack". It is now available for all cheaters to download ;) Here the new features/fixes:
new:
- removed false "no fog" (it wasnt a real "NO FOG")
- console "unlock" hack (all commands - also working view distance!)
fixed:
- optimized automatic process-detection
- smaller filesize (Standard-MFC-Icon is no more...)
OK, first of all dont get shocked and think no fog is not available anymore in this hack. I implemented the full console hack, so now you can use any of the renderer, game, etc. commands. I recommend the following for fog:
- renderer.fogend [value]
(set value to something very big like 10000, then you have "no fog" -> v0.99 did "no fog" like that).
Well, and now I come to the great advantage of implementing the console hack. Now, you can also modify the real view distance via console! ;) Just type the following:
- game.viewdistance [value]
(try out which value is perfect for your PC! Warning: Begin with 600 or so and do little steps when making it bigger - you will see when your PC exceeds his "capacity" ! Your PC might hang/freeze if the value is to big !)
NOTE: I didnt change the offsets of the existing hacks of v0.99, so PB will detect them -> USE THIS HACK ONLY ON NON-PB-SERVERS!
Anyways, have fun with this one again! :D;)
Greetz, test0r
Spontaneous
8th April 2004, 18:40
Pined, I am sure an admin will be around soon to add to ftp.
test0r
8th April 2004, 19:17
thx ;)
caliber1942
8th April 2004, 20:05
will someone post all of the known or possibly known console commands that are in bfv? i saw the post by bf194lover for:
http://www.planetbattlefield.com/mdt/scripting/Intro.shtm
but i am looking more for a list like the one on the bottom of this thread which is for bf1942, not bfv:
http://www.mpcheatz.de/mpc/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36918
especially if there are major differences between the two.
thanks-
AzNzion
8th April 2004, 20:13
I was just wondering, how come the hack resets after a map change?
caliber1942
8th April 2004, 20:29
all hacks do that unless they have a built in timer that rechecks for new map loading. my private hack also does this.
Spontaneous
8th April 2004, 21:15
Its actually because most of that info is still being called from dynamic memory addresses. Every time it loads a new map, there is a new dynamic memory address assigned
test0r
8th April 2004, 21:22
no thats not how my hack detects it. My hack simply looks for the BFV Process and if it quits, my hack resets (all hack-buttons are disabled). BFV restarts itself when mapchanging so the bfvietnam.exe quits, and then immediatly the bfvietnam.exe is executed again with different parameters (e.g. the server IP to connect to). If BFV wouldnt restart, then I wouldnt have to reset my hack, because the static addresses would stay the same (my hack does not change any DMA, it only changes static "source" code).
C-Section
8th April 2004, 22:53
Thanks Test0r. I have a quick question for anyone. Now that I have some free time, I intend to make my own hack. I just want to know how does one make their "private hack" non-detectable from PB. I've been searching in the forums, and maybe I missed it, but my highest concern is going to a lot of work then being detected. Any help is greatly appreciated.
caliber1942
9th April 2004, 01:41
that kind of info is not going to be directly told to you. you see, pb members are lurking in here and they want to know that two so they can KILL it. basically you have to find a way around their scanning and know what they are scanning. then you can work around it.
Loke
9th April 2004, 02:22
dude, you are awesome
what is the password to uncompress???
benonmsn
9th April 2004, 04:20
sorry i do not have enough posts to PM u but i have a question, how can i set the console to an automatic view distance / fog-end value like it was in ver .99? i liked the simplicity of this., sorry i am a newb and do not know how to modify yours. i liek the fog end at 10k and the viewdistance at 1200. but would liek to set it automatically and not type it in the console everytime i start a new level.. any ideas? =/
semag
9th April 2004, 05:21
not able to get any console commands to work.
I type in renderer.fogend 10000 and get unathorized method
and none of the other buttons that worked in .99 are working in 1.0
benonmsn
9th April 2004, 06:12
all of them worked for me....
renderer.fogend 10000 (600 - 10k worked for me)
game.viewdistance 1200
both worked... all the buttons worked for me as well, using whatever version ius on the cd purchased last week, not sure if there is a patch or anything yet.
unauthorized method usaully means wrong syntax. did u try both in single and multiplayer?
semag
9th April 2004, 08:13
only tried multiplayer...
i'm bringing down the console and typing renderer.fogend 10000
is that all I need to do to get this to work? does it need anything if front to get the correct syntax?
do i need to do something in order to get the console hack to work? or just running the exe will open the console up? once i run the exe and type in renderer. and hit tab twice i'm only getting 2 lines avalible. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong... but I'm not sure what it is.
thanks for any help in advance.
benonmsn
9th April 2004, 08:57
run the exe and click the button that sais console or alt + end when ur inside the game, if u do not enable the console hack, u will not be able to use it in game, of course.
Spontaneous
9th April 2004, 09:18
test0r, I understand what your sayying but in a way what I said is correct. You sayying the actual process is reloaded. I am sayying the memory is loaded. Reloading the process involves in reloading the memory. Even tho your hack is involved in editting a static address, all the coding and what not is loaded into memory. When a map reloads, all the memory is reloaded, this includes overwriting all the info your hack stuck into them static memory addresses. So the orignal code is put back. The other thing is, DMA info is still grabbed from them static addresses. Messing with static addresses can also effect the DMA. If you change fog using the static, search for the DMA once. You will see that is changed too. When changing static, you effect DMA too. So really DMA addresses does play a part in why hacks reset on map change.
test0r
9th April 2004, 13:04
yes of course you are right spont ;)
Only wanted to say, that my Hack only changes static addresses directly, not DMA (you know I removed No Fog).
@loke: which password to uncompress do you mean? LOL? The file isnt encrypted or uncompressed at all. The .exe is in the ZIP archive, nothing more...
@semag: benonmsn answered it already... I really dont understand people like you. Why do you think there are buttons in my hack? Hehe, dont understand me wrong, but why dont you just try to push them before you ask here? Hope now it works for you ;)
@benonmsn: I think you can type those 2 commands in about 10secs, so it isnt very complicated.. Maybe you can edit one of the .con files (videodefault.con) by adding the commands, but I think then you have to enable the hack very fast when BFV loads - try it and tell me if it works ;)
semag
10th April 2004, 03:09
bah!!! yes it was my fault, but not all mine. I was using the alt + key commands and it was not working. so i just alt + tab out of the game to check it and pressed the buttons and it worked. ok my bad.
test0r, what about the name tags not showing up as far as they did in .99?? is there a command or something that might improve this distance?
benonmsn
10th April 2004, 03:12
Originally posted by semag
test0r, what about the name tags not showing up as far as they did in .99?? is there a command or something that might improve this distance?
press Q ?
semag
10th April 2004, 03:13
Originally posted by benonmsn on 10th April 2004 at 00:12
press Q ?
wth does Q do?
benonmsn
10th April 2004, 03:16
try it while in game, then say DOH!
=)
semag
10th April 2004, 03:21
hehe thx benonmsn... you'll have to forgive me. I'm a bf newbie
benonmsn
10th April 2004, 03:25
Originally posted by test0r
3D-Map-Hack is still implemented. I only made it easier for you to activate, because you also need nametag-hack enabled when you want the 3D-Map-Hack to work. Just enable the Nametags-Hack and push Q (the button you definied in BFV) ingame to enable your cheated 3D-Map.
its k, i dont always search / read to well either.. but i cheat pretty good
VoN DuTch™
10th April 2004, 20:25
The file you submitted, "BFV Multihack v1.0" was uploaded to our download section under BF1942 (http://www.mpcdownloads.com/_mpc_d0wn_h4x_/BF1942/).
Thanks test0r. Well done, keep em' coming. :p
Loke
11th April 2004, 01:57
yea good job test0r
could you make 1 that isnt detected by pb
test0r
11th April 2004, 13:24
lol, people like you were the ones that made Daz live here...
NO! Noone can make a hack that wont be detected by PB, you understand this? Daz thought this, he was a noob (thats my opinion) and tried to get around PB - lol, poor guy...
So think about what you wrote in your last post and what my post says, you will see I am right ;)
benonmsn
11th April 2004, 15:05
i never install pb, dc or bfv, you know how many servers there are w/o pb? tons! u dont need pb or a pb 'passable hack
Spontaneous
11th April 2004, 15:54
yea but then you will be accused being a cheater more often cause your on a non-pb server. Playing on PB, atleast you might just look like a good player. A lot of people still think PB is so good that there are no cheaters on PB.
agsvgs
11th April 2004, 15:59
Originally posted by Spontaneous on 11th April 2004 at 12:54
yea but then you will be accused being a cheater more often cause your on a non-pb server. Playing on PB, atleast you might just look like a good player. A lot of people still think PB is so good that there are no cheaters on PB.
Lol yea I know what you mean last night when I was S:80 K:58 D:7 on a PB server :)
I went a bit ott and 1 person accused me of cheating and called me a noob, then about 3 people started on him "you cant cheat on PB, if you think you can then your a noob!" I was PMSL
It's so much more fun being on the dishing end of a hack :D
Spontaneous
11th April 2004, 16:11
yep, lol
MarlonB
11th April 2004, 16:13
Originally posted by test0r
lol, people like you were the ones that made Daz live here...
NO! Noone can make a hack that wont be detected by PB, you understand this? Daz thought this, he was a noob (thats my opinion) and tried to get around PB - lol, poor guy...
So think about what you wrote in your last post and what my post says, you will see I am right ;)
Well, actually PB is pretty lame....it doesn't take a genius to fool PB, their screenshots and their scanners.....but ofcourse you can't put a hack like that on the net :)
My hacks don't even work on non-PB servers ;)
test0r
11th April 2004, 16:30
Of course I spoke about public hacks in this post :D
hehe yes, I also figured out how to make a SS bypass, it is so very easy - but of course I wont release something like that to protect us all from global banning ;)
caliber1942
11th April 2004, 20:26
test0r is right, releasing a public hack will kill it fairly quickly. not sure how long test0r's original hack worked on pb servers (wasn't supposed to be used there but i am sure some people did), but it was a fairly short time. now that pb is updating with scans,etc., things will get a little more tricky and for those who release a public hack that obviously tries to kill pb or affect the ss code, then you are likely going to get people banned permanently.
with that said, i think i will now start looking into defeating the pb/ss stuff. hehe
benonmsn
11th April 2004, 22:02
i think me and my freind i play bfv / dc over at my house.. 97% are top 2 players..its kinda funny we change are names often and usually just pick funny names "john watkins, frank Johan, Chad Titherly", etc etc.
when people start accusing me of cheating i usually step it up a notch and snipe them from one side of the map to the other, and only kill the person who calls me a cheater. that makes them shut up, and everyone else doesnt care, cuase they aint dying.
how about sniper zoom for vehicles / stationary machine guns for bfv test0r?
bonne
11th April 2004, 22:26
Could you make ingame menu for this hack?
{col} damien
12th April 2004, 00:28
Originally posted by caliber1942
test0r is right, releasing a public hack will kill it fairly quickly. not sure how long test0r's original hack worked on pb servers (wasn't supposed to be used there but i am sure some people did), but it was a fairly short time. now that pb is updating with scans,etc., things will get a little more tricky and for those who release a public hack that obviously tries to kill pb or affect the ss code, then you are likely going to get people banned permanently.
with that said, i think i will now start looking into defeating the pb/ss stuff. hehe
if and when you make a new hack i love to test it for you :=}
i dont care if i get a ban. i can get a new cd key n/p.
pb as to die for good :=}
but saying that i do love to cheat when pb is going its more fun to do then just play on some ones server when no pb is on.
dtdt
12th April 2004, 02:00
gj man..nice hack :-)
but the accuracy stuff dont work by hot keys :-( only by alt+tab then click on button...
thx for it...
test0r
12th April 2004, 02:13
it works like the others to - there is no real difference. What is your problem?
benonmsn
12th April 2004, 05:21
yea hotkeys work just fine for me
caliber1942
12th April 2004, 05:42
i thought your hack already had zoom, test0r? i guess i never read what all it does at the beginning of this thread-
test0r
12th April 2004, 13:23
no it hasnt and I think I will not implement it. You can modify everything you want via the console hack (for zoom: renderer.fieldofview). As I mentioned my hack is a NOP-hack, so I think I will leave it like that ;)
caliber1942
12th April 2004, 18:24
cool....
Loke
13th April 2004, 04:41
hey test0r or anyone else,
me and a friend are trying to make a hack for bfv
could you tell us the memory addresses?
we could use those since you all ready made a hack
thanks
NOPing for Food
13th April 2004, 09:41
Originally posted by Loke on 12th April 2004 at 19:41
me and a friend are trying to make a hack for bfv
could you tell us the memory addresses?
I am trying to write a history paper, could you do the research for me?
CaptainCox
13th April 2004, 09:43
Loke please...
I doubt if any one in this forum will JUST give you any addys, there is enough info here to find those addys by yourself in about 10 min if you just read some threads.
test0r
13th April 2004, 14:22
Correct!
Spontaneous
13th April 2004, 14:31
In fact, I copied over the How to Make Your Own Hack thread over to the vietnam forums to make it a bit easier for you only vietnam people. Dont come here begging for hacks or the addresses.
Coward
13th April 2004, 14:57
yeah, let's reinvent the wheel. it's not like we're all in this together or something.
caliber1942
13th April 2004, 16:29
Loke, several members have contributed to the discussions on making a hack in the following forum:
http://www.mpcheatz.de/mpc/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36018
There is a lot of information in there to use to create your hack and get your addresses. You will need to learn this information anyways, if you are trying to defeat punkbuster, and learning to create the hacks yourself will give you the knowledge you need to look at code and to code yourself. test0r's addresses are easily determined using a debugger/disassembler like ollydbg-
good luck!
Loke
13th April 2004, 18:02
our disassember was messing up
isnt there protection like tspy
NOPing for Food
13th April 2004, 18:10
Asking for someone to give you the memory addresses is one thing, but trying to dissasemble someone else's work is just lame.
Spontaneous
13th April 2004, 20:06
tspy. Most of us use tsearch and OllyDbg, not tspy. I have heard of many programs protecting from tspy, but if you go to the thread caliber posted, you will see a link that has some info about tspy so you might wanna check it out.
NOPing for Food
13th April 2004, 21:28
tspy isn't a debugger/disassembler, it is a tool that lets you see what other people are writing to memory...you run it with a hack and it tells you what it poked into memory. It's used to steal other people's work.
Spontaneous
13th April 2004, 22:19
ohh thats lame
SNAFUBAR
13th April 2004, 22:35
Originally posted by NOPing for Food on 13th April 2004 at 09:10
Asking for someone to give you the memory addresses is one thing, but trying to dissasemble someone else's work is just lame.
That's not entirely correct. Most of the crap needs to be dissasembled to reconfigure the address to make it work again after it;s been detected or what not.
NOPing for Food
14th April 2004, 01:47
You are still taking someone else's work! If your hack is detected, you can change it in vb (or whatever langauge you made it in). There is no reason why someone should use a program like tspy to take the memory addresses out of someone else's hack. They should just write their own, all the info is here to do it.
Loke
14th April 2004, 02:35
nevermind we used ida pro
Loke
14th April 2004, 05:13
ok we made it
it doesnt work on pb servers
wat does pb scan for
like values?
how to you make it work on pb?
we used CPP to make it
we didnt use test0r's hack for the memory addresses
while i was asking test0r my partner already got them
Spontaneous
14th April 2004, 11:14
Dude your seriously need to read that thread linked. The answers you seek are there so quit asking.
test0r
14th April 2004, 14:13
skin the cat a different way, use code caves for example...!
Spontaneous
14th April 2004, 14:39
Whats funny is I dont use any NOPs or codecaves for my minimap(both inf and vehicles) and my nametag. But codecaves is a way you can do it too so PB dont detect it.
test0r
14th April 2004, 15:06
yes, e.g. for cmp and after that a JZ/JNZ - then you can simply overwrite the cmp with a JMP over the JZ/JNZ ...
caliber1942
14th April 2004, 16:30
not smart to post this stuff- just my opinion. we all know what you are talking about test0r- pb doesn't have any specific info about how we are hacking the game-
test0r
14th April 2004, 16:57
ok, but I think they also could detect it without my help. I think I dont give them a hint with posting that info - they already know it..
Spontaneous
14th April 2004, 17:48
I dont even use or change any kind of jumps. I only change existing values the game uses. In fact for my nametag, I change HALF of an OP Code. ?1 with the ? being what I changed. I know PB could detect this if they wanted to but only changing that little bit give them a hard time finding what I changed.
caliber1942
14th April 2004, 20:34
i think the scanners only detect public hacks code and NOPS specifically. and so any info beyond this i feel like we should tell each other via PM and only with people we know and trust. a person at evenbalance cannot tell what my hack is doing unless they have it or i tell them what it is doing. there's no way for them to test it. they can make changes to their software and guess what we are doing based on reasonable assumptions, but they don't know what we are doing unless we tell them, even if what we are doing is simple or should be easy to defeat. unless they have info about these methods, then they don't know about them. just my 2 cents-
teresa
15th April 2004, 13:05
Hi guys, it's a long time i'm using the hacks you post and i have fun with them, what i want to know is if it's possible to have an hack that can hide yourself in the game.
I was playing and there was someone shooting all the people around and we was not able to see him :(
If that is not a probs for you can u make an hack like that?
I will use it only on my computers i have a little network at home and i play with friends. I don't need a PB hack just something really good to win against my friends at home.
Hiding myself will be funny lol or also something that can give me more health.
Thx
deltamad
15th April 2004, 13:33
can you guys give me the lotto numbers for saturday night???:classic:
{col} damien
15th April 2004, 13:41
Originally posted by teresa
Hi guys, it's a long time i'm using the hacks you post and i have fun with them, what i want to know is if it's possible to have an hack that can hide yourself in the game.
I was playing and there was someone shooting all the people around and we was not able to see him :(
If that is not a probs for you can u make an hack like that?
I will use it only on my computers i have a little network at home and i play with friends. I don't need a PB hack just something really good to win against my friends at home.
Hiding myself will be funny lol or also something that can give me more health.
Thx
i was doing that i can kill you but you will not see me at any time its a fog hack.
put it this way im on one end of the map you are on the other
side of the map i see you you are dead lol :=}
its good fun fun fun :=} but not for you bud lol
no i cant give it out to you sorry but i had to tell you its just a fog hack and nothing more then that.
what makes it more funny is you lot who i take shot at just stay there when the 1st shot hits you by the 2ed shot you are dead its funny to see if you get shot at just run run run but saying that i can still kill you.
you can run but cant hide :=} from me
teresa
15th April 2004, 16:04
sorry col damien, maybe my bad english don't make it clear to you.... was not a fog hack, he was in our base and he was shooting us we was able to hit him just shooting around in the air, and only when we hit him we was able to see where he was...
then i assume it was a good hack nothing to do with a fog hack.
There was also a chopper doing that, i can hear the sound of it over my head but i cannot see it also if it was really near!!!
Now don't assume it was a prob with the video card, cos i don't have any probs with it, i just think it was a new hack.
Anyway thx to reply me, hope to get more answers also from abt all the guys that are good making hacks :)
ciao ciao
Loke
15th April 2004, 18:51
me and my friend tried making another hack
we coded it in VB6
pb still detects it
can any of you guys check it out
and tell us what we are doing wrong
through email
Spontaneous
15th April 2004, 19:13
Thats it. Dude you need to quit your begging on this stuff. We gave you the link to all the info you need and you seem to keep just begging for the answers here.
Loke
15th April 2004, 19:38
yea thanks for the warning points
im not begging
i know you have forums on how to make a hack
the hack is already made
im asking how to get it to work on pb
and i cant find it on the forums
and from what i read i dont think you guys want to talk about it in public
caliber1942
15th April 2004, 19:46
loke do a search on code caves here and in the 1942 forum and use them to hide your code from pb. you only need the code cave for tags and for map, i think-
some have done it without code caves, but you are right, we won't discuss that here. there is also a method of tricking the memory such that it appears exactly as though nothing was done to the code at all. you aren't going to hear or read much about that. nobody here "knows" you (or each other really) and so we (or at least me) are careful not to post or pm our methods to just anyone. sorry-
teresa
15th April 2004, 20:02
but Caliber, can u answer to my questions?
Is that possible and also share here? just to play at home with friends...
If not i won't bother anymore.
Thx
caliber1942
15th April 2004, 21:15
teresa-
i don't know of an "invisibilty" hack. there are situations where a person can "squeeze" themselves between a wall or under a building or into a barrel or box using a vehicle or something and then they are nearly invincible and can kill you from that spot, even though you often can't see them or shoot at them. what you are describing with the helicopter i have never seen nor heard about. i cannot explain that if you actually did see it. so no, i don't know of this hack and if someone was able to pull that off, i would be surprised.....
Loke
15th April 2004, 23:51
dont worry i dont work for pb
i think you would be able to tell where i work by my pic
thanks you have been a real help
CaptainCox
16th April 2004, 00:45
Man!!!
If I could play with the real stuff I would not play around with this game, thats for sure.
{col} damien
16th April 2004, 03:06
Originally posted by teresa
sorry col damien, maybe my bad english don't make it clear to you.... was not a fog hack, he was in our base and he was shooting us we was able to hit him just shooting around in the air, and only when we hit him we was able to see where he was...
then i assume it was a good hack nothing to do with a fog hack.
There was also a chopper doing that, i can hear the sound of it over my head but i cannot see it also if it was really near!!!
Now don't assume it was a prob with the video card, cos i don't have any probs with it, i just think it was a new hack.
Anyway thx to reply me, hope to get more answers also from abt all the guys that are good making hacks :)
ciao ciao
n/p i have played in lots of servers but i have not ever seen that one
Spontaneous
16th April 2004, 07:27
Loke, if you read that thread you would see this.
A nice tut by MarlonB explains other ways of doing what you want with the use of NOPs.
Here is this tut
That right there explains a current way to get past PB. So dont be telling us you read through the forums because it explains it right there. Nice reading you did
teresa
17th April 2004, 10:21
Test0r i'd like to know if i can hide myself from others. If i'm using your hack and my friends too, how can i make them not to see me with your hack?
God hope u can understand what i mean lol...
Spontaneous
17th April 2004, 10:35
There is no way to hide yourself.
teresa
17th April 2004, 13:12
But Spontaneus.. it's true that sometimes i cannot see my friends in the 3d map or cannot see their tagnames...
It mean it's a problem i have with my graphic video then?
Or it's something concerning the hack?
Spontaneous
17th April 2004, 13:31
I think it actually has to do with a latest pb update. I noticed in the last 2 days that nametag dont fully work all the time as before it was working 100% of the time. I dont know exactly what PB is doing but I am willing to bet they did something. I am going to be more testing on this over the weekend. I do know that 3dmap works off nametags to know what players to draw on the screen so its not so much a 3dmap as it is really a nametag problem. Any of the big players been experancing anything with their nametag hack? Any idea might be happening?
teresa
17th April 2004, 13:37
I see...
I have also another question, if it's possible to make an hack that can help you to hit tanks...
it's possible to have the right spot where i need to shoot?
Will be so good if i can shoot where there is like a red dot in the screen to kill a tank far away :)
Please guys don't get angry with me, i'm just a newbee, i just lernt after 2 months how to use the forum!
Spontaneous
17th April 2004, 14:01
That will involve editting the skins to add a red dot to tanks and in vietnam you cant edit any of the skins or you wont be able to connect to the server. Another thing is tanks are so easy to kill in vietnam I dont see why anyone would need to make it easier to kill tanks.
{col} damien
18th April 2004, 13:48
just play the game beter lol
you can kill tanks with mines thats the best one to have for tanks
teresa
19th April 2004, 14:03
lol...
i know that using mine's i can hit a tank, but it will be funny if i know where to shoot when a tank is far away, without try to shoot up or down, just having the right spot where to shoot ;) eheheheh
Maybe this is impossible, i really don't know.
Spontaneous
19th April 2004, 14:07
Mainly its not possible in vietnam. I dont even know if it would be possible in bf1942.
{col} damien
19th April 2004, 14:28
what you are saying is what i call a aimbot.
i know this is going to be tested but its not going out for anyone to have it.
thats if its going to work.
i dont know im not making it
Spontaneous
19th April 2004, 14:35
No Aimbots do the aimming and shooting for. What he wants is something like texploit for bf1942 but this gives a dot of where to aim to hit a tank at the distance it is at.
{col} damien
19th April 2004, 14:42
i c im with you
that would be good to have :=}
Chaotik
11th May 2004, 04:24
Could someone tell me where I could find a list of console commands to use with this hack. And also what is the console hack. Sorry for being such a newb!
Lasix
11th May 2004, 04:36
Originally posted by caliber1942 on 14th April 2004 at 17:34
i think the scanners only detect public hacks code and NOPS specifically. and so any info beyond this i feel like we should tell each other via PM and only with people we know and trust. a person at evenbalance cannot tell what my hack is doing unless they have it or i tell them what it is doing. there's no way for them to test it. they can make changes to their software and guess what we are doing based on reasonable assumptions, but they don't know what we are doing unless we tell them, even if what we are doing is simple or should be easy to defeat. unless they have info about these methods, then they don't know about them. just my 2 cents-
I agree, please stop posting such detailed info, I too dont use caves, but i am not going to post what i do... Lets let some people figure this out, like we all had to, or learn from a person who trusts them. If you keep handing out this info on a silver plater noone will learn a damn thing. THere is enough public info out for anyone to make a hack that will by pass PB. Lets keep the other stuff for those who you trust.
Lasix
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