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orbitz
1st July 2004, 23:26
Punkbuster hackers be aware!!!! they are going to get us omg punkbuster is going to get us!

haha jk

here is an email i just got from them. They just keep updating we just keep getting past them.

Wednesday June 30th, 2004

The cost of hacking on PunkBuster servers has just gone up significantly.
PunkBuster now computes Hardware GUIDs(as in graphics cards serials/mobo serials/cpu/ any kind of hardware GUIDS) for various pieces of hardware on
players' systems while playing on PunkBuster servers. We use multiple private
one-way hashes so that no serial number information for individual computers can
be determined by admins or anyone else who may try to obtain this information
from a Hardware GUID (and as always, no personal information of any kind is
examined, stored or transmitted by PunkBuster). When players raise a violation
that corresponds to hacking or interfering with PunkBuster's normal operation,
we now (in addition to Global PB GUID bans) are Globally banning the new
Hardware GUIDs across all games supported by PunkBuster (including games
supported in the future). So punks who are determined to cheat so badly on
PB-enabled servers that they try to hack PunkBuster may now need a new computer
in addition to a new cdkey in order to return to PunkBuster servers. As with
previous PB GUID Global bans, the new Hardware GUID bans are permanent and will
not be lifted. As always, players who are affected by these Global bans will
still be able to play on non-PB servers. Honest users should never "test" hacks
that claim to interfere with PunkBuster. We have successfully tested this new
feature set over the past few weeks for a few supported games and will be
rolling it out to all supported games over the next few days and weeks.
Additionally, PunkBuster servers will be updated to signify whether kicks for
Global bans are for PB GUIDs or the new Hardware GUIDs.

Please visit our site at http://www.evenbalance.com for more information.

Regards,
Even Balance, Inc.

barry_white
2nd July 2004, 00:13
according to someone well known in hack/cheat creations and who is studying pb packets activelly, its an HD serialz ban. I just tested an alpha version to unban/fool PB, looks promising. But not yet ready for distribution

MeintooL
2nd July 2004, 02:08
sweet dealz hopefully its ready soon :-) oh and is this for AAO ? or a different game?

orbitz
2nd July 2004, 07:20
alll games that support Punkbuster.

www.punkbuster.com


^^^ that list on website

Necrazoid
2nd July 2004, 13:16
according to someone well known in hack/cheat creations and who is studying pb packets activelly, its an HD serialz ban. I just tested an alpha version to unban/fool PB, looks promising. But not yet ready for distribution
Whats the bet that PB will prolly keep updating so it dont work, Like the PBHack for AA..

Ch3at3r
2nd July 2004, 14:25
Whats the bet that PB will prolly keep updating so it dont work, Like the PBHack for AA..
I guess pretty high - anything that is code and runs on the same PC is in memory and is detectable (check the BFV forum, test0r who made a very nice pbbuster gave up and that is also what he said). It will maybe take PB longer, but they will detect anything that gets "in their way". If they have to hire new people to fight some hack, they will - they have the money.

If Gonzo had kept his PBHACK to himself or just a few other users, PB would NEVER EVER have known about it! They would NEVER have done anything against it! On the other hand, anything that makes it to the public will be detected at some point...

I'm quite sure that Gonzo is up to something "big", and it may work a while just as pbhack worked for quite a while. But, PB caught up and now Gonzo dropped development of pbhack.

Gonzo, like every hacker, has one big disadvantage: He has to think of ways to get around PB. All PB has to do is react to what the hackers do... far simpler. It may take a while, but in the end they will prevale - you can't stop that.

I see it just like Spontaneuous (he also makes BFV cheats but not pb hacks) - use cheats (if possible make your own), but don't use anything that interferes with PB in any way. I know I never did, and I never will.

I really admire Gonzo for all the time he put (puts?) into fighting PB - some claim that Gonzo is actually Evilbert who made the famous AA cheat Evilhack, I don't know. But I have my doubts that he'll continue doing this for a long time - even if his next version is "the" pb hack and it takes PB a long time to fight it. At least I would not do something like that... I'd say "oh well, I have another life, a real one" - and then go out with friends to party. After all, we just live once, so let's have a good time :)

Maybe, on the other hand, we'll see PB drop out of AAO in the next few weeks already without a new PBHACK version from Gonzo. According to Barry White, the DEVs are very angry at PB, so maybe Gonzo did win - not the way he thought I guess, but he did manage it :cool:

I hope I'm not going to get any "warning points" because I'm saying that I don't believe Gonzo will defeat PB for good? :paranoid:

lug0si
2nd July 2004, 17:37
maybe OT, but im not sure if pb really has that much of an advantage.
after all their software (and the game itself) is running on the hackers computer, which gives him almost complete control of the environment the sw runs on - hardware, device drivers, os, apis,...
AC software has its limits imho.

orbitz
2nd July 2004, 19:03
just wait and see what happens in the couple of weeks. i can't wait to see what pb has and is going to throw at us. BTW, if it is Harddrive GUID'S they are taking. There is a solution for this Harddrive GUID, just make a new partition and install the game on it, its not 100% full proof but it might work.

CRACKIT
3rd July 2004, 13:28
what if its a video card guid ban????
or is that posible
i beleive this is a violation of privacy

douma
17th July 2004, 13:55
Yeh u guys are right

Ronin
17th July 2004, 16:18
this is an old thread. while it is only 10 days old, there are about 20 other threads on this same topic that are NEWER, please reply to them rather than an older one with old information

visit the PB HW GUID BAN GUIDE in my sig

doomfx
17th July 2004, 17:57
i have smart disabled on my hardrives and use a usb modem,
can i still be hardware banned?

thx.

Ronin
17th July 2004, 18:04
did you not read a single word of my post?

click the link im my signature to find out, everything is explained in that thread, and if it isnt, just post IN THAT THREAD to have it answered