Finding Instant Damage Values

[skirk456]

Anyone have any luck finding the instant damage values with a packet editor? I've found them before with artmoney when offline or in host mode but they seem to disappear into coded values as soon as you get online (not in host mode). :surprised

[KingSling]

i have no idea ive been trying but yes they do change i cant find one and keep it :(

[Pulse]

lol i dont have ant luck cuz i cant figure out how to use WPE

[someguy333]

winsock packet editor requires windows 95 or 98. if u dont have them it won't work.

[skirk456]

winsock packet editor requires windows 95 or 98. if u dont have them it won't work.
I've tried using the SoftPerfect Network Protocol Analyzer (used to be called packet sniffer) but it doesn't give you enough help on how to use it. I tried searching for raw values but came up with nada. Need to find a site that has some tutorials on how to use a packet sniffer.

[KingSling]

y dont you search for an unknown value on t-search?

[Bleah]

The best site that I have found that has information on packet sniffers is this: http://www.blizzhackers.com look under their Coding and Hacking Development section, you will find information that points more towards Blizzard type games however, the information there can be applied to all games, just not the packets.

Also, I don't believe you can alter the InstantDamage values, I believe they are server side. Something helps me to believe this since with the new Fuzzy mod, admins have a command that is called Thunderstrike damage. This basically gives them the choice to change the amount of damage that weapons will give off. None have this ability as of yet because it is not working properly however this should help people to tend to believe that damage values are server side, not client side. Damage types on the other hand might could be altered, just no sure about that as of yet either though.

I'm sorry MPC mods if you don't like me posting this site however it's posted several times under the Blizzard Games section here so I figured it would be ok.

[Yami310]

I'll try to find the values.

[KingSling]

the values are in the weapons txt but we cant figure out how to use them with a program.

[Bleah]

/************************************************** **********************
Name (String)
**
** User friendly name used in DEdit.
**
** NameId (Integer)
**
** Id that maps to the Localizable Ammo name (stored in CRes.dll)
**
** PickupIcon (String)
**
** Name of the interface icon associated with the ammo type, for the pickup display.
**
** CounterIcon (String)
**
** Name of the interface icon associated with the ammo type, for the ammo counter display.
**
** MaxAmount (Integer)
**
** Specifies the maximum amount of ammo that can be "carried" of this
** type.
**
** Save (Integer)
**
** 1 = Save data, 0 = Do Not save data. (minimize SP save size)
**
*/

** Ammo0 - Knife
*/

[Knife_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Knife_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

NameId = 4100
AmmoType = 0
AmmoPoolName = "Blades"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 5
InstDamageType = 19

/*
** Ammo1 - Pistol Bullets
*/

[Pistol_Bullets_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Pistol_Bullets_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

NameId = 4101
AmmoType = 0
AmmoPoolName = "Pistol_Bullets"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 35
InstDamageType = 28

/*
** Ammo1a - Pistol Bullets Armor Piercing
*/

[Pistol_Bullets_AP_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Pistol_Bullets_AP_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 0
AmmoPoolName = "Pistol_BulletsAP"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 55
InstDamageType = 24

/*
** Ammo2 - Shotgun Shells
*/

[Shotgun_Shells_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Shotgun_Shells_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 0
AmmoPoolName = "Shotgun_Shells"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 40
InstDamageType = 27

/*
** Ammo3 - Shotgun Slugs
*/

[Shotgun_Slugs_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Shotgun_Slugs_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

NameId = 4103
AmmoType = 0
AmmoPoolName = "Shotgun_Slugs"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 180
InstDamageType = 24

/*
** Ammo4 - Pulse Rifle Bullets
*/

[Pulse_Rifle_Bullets_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Pulse_Rifle_Bullets_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 0
AmmoPoolName = "Pulse_Rifle_Bullets"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 25
InstDamageType = 28

/*
** Ammo5 - Impact Grenades
*/

[Impact_Grenades_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Impact_Grenades_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 1
AmmoPoolName = "Impact_Grenades"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 50
InstDamageType = 7
AreaDamage = 250
AreaDamageType = 7
AreaDamageRadius = 200
AreaDamageDuration = 0.500000
ProgDamage = 0.000000

/*
** Ammo6 - Smart Gun Bullets
*/

[Smart_Gun_Bullets_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Smart_Gun_Bullets_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 0
AmmoPoolName = "Smart_Gun_Bullets"
AmmoPoolAmount = 6
InstDamage = 12
InstDamageType = 28

/*
** Ammo7 - Rail Gun Bullets
*/

[Rail_Gun_Bullets_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Rail_Gun_Bullets_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

NameId = 4107
AmmoType = 0
AmmoPoolName = "Rail_Gun_Bullets"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 400
InstDamageType = 24

/*
** Ammo8 - Pipe Grenade
*/

[Pipe_Grenades_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Pipe_Grenades_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 1
AmmoPoolName = "Pipe_Grenades"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 100
InstDamageType = 7
AreaDamage = 250
AreaDamageType = 7
AreaDamageRadius = 500
AreaDamageDuration = 0.500000
ProgDamage = 0.000000

/*
** Ammo9 - Prox Grenade
*/

[Prox_Grenades_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Prox_Grenades_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 1
AmmoPoolName = "Prox_Grenades"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 100
InstDamageType = 7
AreaDamage = 250
AreaDamageType = 7
AreaDamageRadius = 250
AreaDamageDuration = 0.500000

/*
** Ammo10 - EMP Grenade
*/

[EMP_Grenades_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "EMP_Grenades_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 1
AmmoPoolName = "EMP_Grenades"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 25
InstDamageType = 16
AreaDamage = 110
AreaDamageType = 16
AreaDamageRadius = 150
AreaDamageDuration = 0.500000
ProgDamage = 0.000000
ProgDamageType = 16
ProgDamageDuration = 10.000000

/*
** Ammo11 - Spider Grenade
*/

[Spider_Grenades_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Spider_Grenades_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

NameId = 4111
AmmoType = 1
AmmoPoolName = "Spider_Grenades"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 50
InstDamageType = 7
AreaDamage = 125
AreaDamageType = 7
AreaDamageRadius = 250
AreaDamageDuration = 0.500000

/*
** Ammo12 - SADAR Rockets
*/

[SADAR_Rockets_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "SADAR_Rockets_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 1
AmmoPoolName = "SADAR_Rockets"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 50
InstDamageType = 7
AreaDamage = 400
AreaDamageType = 7
AreaDamageRadius = 250
AreaDamageDuration = 0.500000


/*
** Ammo13 - SADAR Tracking Rockets
*/

[SADAR_Tracking_Rockets_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "SADAR_Tracking_Rockets_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 1
AmmoPoolName = "SADAR_Tracking_Rockets"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 50
InstDamageType = 7
AreaDamage = 400
AreaDamageType = 7
AreaDamageRadius = 250
AreaDamageDuration = 0.500000

/*
** Ammo14 - Napalm
*/

[Napalm_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Napalm_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 1
AmmoPoolName = "Napalm"
AmmoPoolAmount = 1
InstDamage = 20
InstDamageType = 2
AreaDamage = 0
AreaDamageType = 0
AreaDamageRadius = 0
AreaDamageDuration = 0
ProgDamage = 10.000000
ProgDamageType = 17
ProgDamageDuration = 5


/*
** Ammo15 - Minigun Bullets
*/

[Minigun_Bullets_Ammo_MP]
Parent = "Minigun_Bullets_Ammo"
Type = "Ammo"

AmmoType = 0
AmmoPoolName = "Minigun_Bullets"
AmmoPoolAmount = 3
InstDamage = 50
InstDamageType = 24


/*


Okay, there's the information you wanted to find on the damage values and more. Good luck with whatever it is that you plan on trying to do with them.

Note: Yes I know these are the values ONLY for humans however I do not feel the need to post all species' values from the txt since you can find those for yourself. I posted these so that everyone can try and well most likely fail. However better to let you try for yourselves so that everyone can have access to these values.

[KingSling]

thats wat i was talkin about but w ejus dont know how to make them work :(

[Bleah]

You can't.

[skirk456]

You can't.
Like I said before, I've found the instant damage values in lan host or internet host mode but the values disappear when you're not in one of these modes. Could it be that you can find these values in internet host mode because you have server control while in this mode? That would make sense if it's a server side only function and also explain why you can't find these values in any other modes.

[Bleah]

Right, it's a server side only value. This would tell you that you cannot change these values unless you host a server yourself. Also, no one else can join the game unless their values match your's identically.

[KingSling]

u can do dammage values with t-search and make it work
F8 did

[Bleah]

I'd be surprised if they made that big of an error from AvP2 to PH which allowed the difference in allowing you to increase damage values. However, since I have not seen this I will not discard your claim that he changed the amount of damage a given weapon has been able to do. It's just hard to believe but with these values, I don't see them changing anytime soon.

[KingSling]

he showed me one hit with a pulse bullet took me down and he also took down a queen lol did i mention he also got the human pounce to work?

[diablothegreat]

He didn't necessarily increase damage... he made the clips go a lot faster... f8 is quite advanced so i'm not totally sure...but he mentioned the above to me in a game when he kicked me arse. :lick:

[Bleah]

If that's true, that's kool. I'll ask him next time I see him on msn about some things. Doesn't really matter, I really don't try to make anything new for AvP2. Don't usually even cheat on it now. I did it as something new to try and may try something every now and again but we'll see. There's plenty things that haven't been accomplished which I have no worries about as I'm sure someone here will figure them out eventually...

[skirk456]

If that's true, that's kool. I'll ask him next time I see him on msn about some things. Doesn't really matter, I really don't try to make anything new for AvP2. Don't usually even cheat on it now. I did it as something new to try and may try something every now and again but we'll see. There's plenty things that haven't been accomplished which I have no worries about as I'm sure someone here will figure them out eventually...
Did f8 have server control at the time? That might explain how he was able to do that.

[diablothegreat]

Yeppers he did.

[yesca]

OK...im not DIZZIN....but how in the world do u guys do it.....Sit by ur computer all day!!!!

Trying to create new hacks, with programs most pll dont even know about ..?

Plz tell me....IS there something that drives you to create all this haks?

By the way im SMokey from Fate...|F8|Smokey.......plz dont banned me, i just visit this website once in a while to see wats New tricks u guys have....anyways if AVP3 come outs i hope i dont see you guys there..LOL...one more thing....why dont you guys stop hakin avp2, i mean this game is real OLD....not alot of pll play it, and u can only hack on servers with out fuzzys MOD other wise u get booted.....OK....ONE MORE THING....i know ur names in this forums are nick names.....But if u wana give ur real avp2 name,its ok feel free to do so...this game is so old, no one would care if ur so and so form so so CLAN.....Dam this is way of topic...LOL....

[Sierra]

Or why don't you go back in your |F8| server and **** ? Would be cool for everyone you better get banned from here LOL

[KingSling]

hmmm lets just say i know how to get instant dammage and wat values to use but i dont know HOW to use them.

[Pulse]

lol with the fuzzy mod on lol i used hacks wid that on and i didnt get banned booted or waht not

P.S tell me the vlaues and if i can do it i will tell you :)

[yesca]

Or why don't you go back in your |F8| server and **** ? Would be cool for everyone you better get banned from here LOL

You lost me there big guy....i dont know wat ur trying to say.?

And of curze u can hack on servers with fuzzys MOD, and u proably wont get booted unless their is an admin...which most servers dont have... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Bleah]

Honestly, I'm not surprised to see an |F8| member posting here. You guys have been cheating for a long time as well. Your clan has been banned from servers, clan leagues, and much more. So your flaming here is really just flaming yourself and the rest of your clan. I know you will deny any cheating in your part and you may very well never have cheated however, your clan has cheated for a VERY long time. I bore witness to this on many occasions.

Also I you want to get down to the knitty-gritty of it all, we're not hacking, it's CHEATING. Using glitches/exploits, which your clan is also quite infamous falls into the same category, especially for this game. The creators of the game gave us the means to exploit the game in any way we saw fit, so therefor what we are doing is nothing worse than what you complain about, it's just more involved. You can argue this simple fact all you want, it will have no bearing on anything besides the simple fact that we are the same. We exploit the game and we enjoy it. If you don't like it, leave these forums, which you should be banned for being anti-cheat and two, leave the AvP community as we will be around for a VERY VERY long time to come. Oh yeah, you WILL see me cheating at AvP3!

[KingSling]

well as long as they gotthe butes ill be to but they prob have that stupid punk buster thing.

[F4TE]

Everyone go to my site,

http://fates-game-ownage.cjb.net

And look at the movies of death.

Watch the Grenade Bomb Formation one very closely.

Its about 11 minutes into the movie youll be able to see what it is.

I can level an entire map with it...Heres a movie, Grab some popcorn.

[KingSling]

aww dude thats sweet GJ didnt you say to me you where gopin to poast how to do it?

[Bleah]

Nicely done. Your bombs seem to work similarly to a Pred's sticky bomb however it seemed to float in mid-air. Don't know hot you did but good job none the lessser.

[KingSling]

i got a dammage hack if can can beleave that but it doesnt work i went over it like 20 times nada im not going to tell who gave it it to me and who made the tut. Bleah since your one of the experience people in this forum i would like to give you the tut to see if im missing anything in it. Just PM me or email me at sthrisss@netscape.net or if you have aim instant message me at sthrisss

[Pulse]

kl man that was sweet like KingSling said i like the one
Apocolypse Featuring Grenade Bomb Formations beucase u had music to listen too lol

P.S wud b good t know how you did that

[diablothegreat]

I'm bored and F8 did a very good job....he should be a director... the music fit so well... just some better camera angles and some color and BAM there's a small movie lol...

[KingSling]

[QUOTE=AVP KingSling]i got a dammage hack if can can beleave that but it doesnt work i went over it like 20 times nada im not going to tell who gave it it to me and who made the tut. Bleah since your one of the experience people in this forum i would like to give you the tut to see if im missing anything in it. Just PM me or email me at sthrisss@netscape.net or if you have aim instant message me at sthrisss

its ok i like the thing im tryin to get alot better did i explaint it to you guys? I think but ill do it again constant headbite even when u pounce and tail wip then when u go to human headshot every time oone hit kill even if you hitem in the leg and then wat ever health u have lost ull get it back cause thats wat a headbite does well u dont get it all back only 25%

[Max_Damage]

I hate when people brag

[Bleah]

I watched your infinite ammo hack. The thing about what I saw was simply this: You froze the counter at 666, which isn't all that hard in and of itself. I did that in less than 1 minute. I saw you kill maybe 4 people, the railgun holds 10 shots. If you can make a movie where you shoot 15 times into the wall then kill someone, then I will believe that you inf ammo works. Or pm me on msn and tell me what server you will be on and I will load up ph to watch.

[KingSling]

lol bleah i was think the same damn thing i was goin to show him snap shots i took not saying your a bad hacker F8 but bleah is right i tried to get inf ammo like that its all blanks and your counter moves soooo but i do know how to get inf ammo on artmoney and it does work. well its not inf but everytime you go to your ammo box youll pick up more ammo. Bleah do you want me to send you that dammage hack? To see if you can get it?

[Bleah]

Yeah sure, that's fine.

[F4TE]

I watched your infinite ammo hack. The thing about what I saw was simply this: You froze the counter at 666, which isn't all that hard in and of itself. I did that in less than 1 minute. I saw you kill maybe 4 people, the railgun holds 10 shots. If you can make a movie where you shoot 15 times into the wall then kill someone, then I will believe that you inf ammo works. Or pm me on msn and tell me what server you will be on and I will load up ph to watch.


Damn, If you were a Movie Critic, Id be ashmed to have you at my seminar.

Look how many times I actually shot it though in between the 4 people. Went way past the 10 count. I was even killing turrets.

Put it this way, You can only do it as far as I know with guns that dont use clips.

Second but not least its pretty much useless to have. The values change at the end of the game, And for people who probly already have it can tell you the same.

And the Dillenger Grenade Bombing - Every grenade has a surface value so that whatever your cornering cant escape. I took the time for detonation off and the velocity time so that the grenades...Bombs or whatever dont move or explode, But can still be detonated by a foreign blast, Like an active grenade for example.

I lace a decent portion of the map using freefly so they all have an explosive chain reaction because they are all touching eachothers blast radius. I then release the active unpoked grenade to detonate them all to release an Apocolypse.

I have problems performing this in certain maps because it has a tendeny to crash my game.


And Bleah, you have my MSN name and my email. Tell me yourself you want a light show from me and Ill be happy to give one. But like I said before, Im only releasing by "Interesting trades". Ill give any kind of proof you want. Like I already offered. Just because your limited by certain things doest mean you can rule them out. It just means you havent gone that far into exploiting. No offense.


One more addition - If you people can target with a pred and Human Track weapons, Cmon now, At least figure out the AI for the Aliens. The headbite kills anything even if you hit their toes.

[KingSling]

-_- F8 i asked for help on that one u just blew me off man.

[Bleah]

No offense taken. Exploiting a game is the last thing on my todo. I did it for a while with this game for shits and giggles mostly.

Yes I do have your MSN however I've only seen you on like once and that was well like 6 months ago. And now I've uninstalled it for personal reasons.

I'm not concerened with whether or not I trade for anything, if it comes along, great...if not, oh well. I've only played the game like 10 times in the past 4 months. If I had more free-time I might've come up with something but my time is limited and needs to be used wisely.

[Supremespeed]

Yea F8 where you been. I saw M8 on like a few days ago and neither you or him have been on in the last like month or so.

[Hoxz00r]

Hmh..... HHHMMhh......... u wanna say F8 u made infi ammo from my big clip hack and its works? :\ enter msn :P

[KingSling]

his way dpesnt work cuz i did the same thing didnt work -_-

[YOSHI22]

the most ive ever gotten for the rail gun is 200 ammo, but it wouldnt work for any other weapons :confused:

[magic_maker]

its Fiding Instant Damage Values

it's a server side only value !
u need a packet editor to do it, thats why when u find the values (with Tsearch or any other memory searcher) in your server, u get 2 values, and when u join a difrent server, one of the adress blows (its the server adress for damage).

[Supremespeed]

i tried using a packet editor. Its difficult + mine didnt come wit a readme

PS: YEY MY ISP IS BACK UP AFTER A WEEK!

[KingSling]

well u can use dammage.......So BLAH lol F8 has shown me this but i just cant get it to work its very nice if you get it to work magic u rusty on hackin? :dead:
Cuz u should know this.......................


Search for the Headbite heal values.
For Drone and Runner.
In float value.
And use the remainder.
Have the Wall walk poked.
Use face hugger Targeting AI.
With Smart Gun.
And youll get a head shot everytime.
Cause when a face hugger hits someones ass, It will still get a head shot.
Same with Headbite or anything else.

[YOSHI22]

thats only for the smartgun?

[DaViPA]

Visit www.gamehacking.com for all your WPE and other packet editing needs. Has a nice beginner TUT for it too.