System?bunny? Ogc / Mpc Teams Dead?????

[DjOsiris]

I go into irc and into these forums now and everyone is dead. no i no fukin noob hd fried and am starting over with new acct lost my pw and everyting.. sucks but where da fuk is everyone? i leave for a few days and boom everything dead... ogc crew quits and these forums are dying fast??!! did something in the new valve security updates scare you or something?!? I love your proggies and Im starting to learn hoto do dis shit myself some now but this is a bad time to bail the scene!!

I been cheatin for a long time now back in beta2 guyz and I remember first hlh/hlha it rocked so hard. There are always ways to get around these security checks its just a matter of looking in right places.

If System or Bunny have quit I wish you farewell and hopefully one day you will return. If not then the best to you anyhow I know you will get awesome jobs as coders!

All I seem to see these days is flamers and ******* whining like mad about whens new ogc gonna be out already!?!?!! WTF is wrong with you ppl hassling these nice people like this who for how many years now have worked their asses off to provide you with badass cheats for a dying game to make it fun again. You all know why you cheat. Some of you do it cuz you suck. Some because you just got bored to hell with CS. Some because you are hella good and now wanna PWN! Still others like myg0t's use cheats to annoy the hell outta ppl with lame antics, spamming and crashing. Either way a cheater is a cheater whatever way you put it and that is what makes us all alike. WTF is with us all fighting with eachother?!? We should all be working together to stop valve's VAC. Share knowledge. Teach ppl wanting to learn coding what they need to know with some tutorials and examples. We can defeat valve. BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE MORE THAN 2-3 CODERS WORKING TOGETHER!

[o({})o]

how is mpc team dead?

wake up f00l

[HoooL]

lol.. no1 or nothing is dead.

Its not even sure 100% that System or Bunny quit.

Cheating will never die.

[Plastique[C4]]

What the point of supporting public cheating ?

[DjOsiris]

That's exactly it Plastique. Public cheating is supported everytime an admin sets up there server as unsecure. The default mode for security_module check is 1. Here in Seattle, WA area the top 15 fastest most active servers are non-secure and we play with cheaters and non-cheaters alike. Several admins have even set their new 2056 servers to non secure or they were before update. I personally enjoy playing with the other cheaters very very much and I think that OGC team should concentrate more on OGC stability and features rather than the ever elusive VAC that Valve can update every hour or less if they want to. VAC will be a special hack I imagine that someone comes up with and valve has a tough time beating. I dont know all that much of this opengl coding stuff or I'd code cheats myself. Aswell no time either. But I say again, the cheat developers really must work together on this. Get OGC stable in non-secure first then work on VAC. Don't put out these quick fixes that Valve updates every few days. Just make it work good in non-secure. I think Valve will concentrate less on stopping it then. Just IMHO.

[HoooL]

Er.. whats your problem with non-secured servers m8?

[VGFreak103]

Wait, don't all hacks work on non secure servers?

[girard747]

no the ogc's dont work because "valve changed HW.DLL. Patch failed."

[DjOsiris]

Wow I am not trying to flame or rank here but I posted what I thought was an intelligent post that maybe a few if any would read and I would maybe get some intelligent type of response. I must individually comment on what I see for I am mistaken on that judgement so far.

[HoooL Knight of Wars Registered: Jun 2002 Location: Behind you! Posts: 106: "Er.. whats your problem with non-secured servers m8?"]

NO Problem! I love them! As I said earlier, up here in WA the top 20 fastest&fullest servers are non-secure and we play mixed cheater/non-cheater rounds all the time. CS 1.5 puts and end to this for us and this sux. Now System and Bunny leave (no offense man your hacks really rock but it sucks your doing it on your own basically) Pharlap who is a mad good asm coder in charge of things. Or so it appears because the IRC forums are empty.

[VGFreak103 •1337 Çrè\/\/ /\/\ëmßê|2• Registered: Mar 2002 Location: In the UnKnownZ Posts: 163: "Wait, don't all hacks work on non secure servers?"

No you *****! My whole point is stoopid that VAC sucks but it sucks even more on 1.5 cuz 1.5 disables most of the in-client hooking with the out of directory execution not being possible and advanced encrypted security checks on the .dll's it will be difficult to keep up with them. Not to mention with the latest VAC updates XQZ and Pharlap's wallhacks just got nailed to boot.

[girard747 Magician Apprentice Registered: May 2002 Location: Posts: 12: "no the ogc's dont work because "valve changed HW.DLL. Patch failed.""

You ***** you need to update your counter-strike client and hl-client.
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Look you guys Im just tryin to say that this fighting / arguing / greed for credit/fame BS has gotta stop and everyone developers & testers (us cheaters with r mad different configs to test and report bugs) need to all chill da fuk out and help eachother by posting useful info in here instead of incessent bitching and harassing (trojans etc). There are tons of "private" hacks out there and if they get released they will get banned by vac but what needs to be done is there has gotta be a way to totally bypass vac with fake dlls or different hooking to the client engine. I've racked my brain with ogc9 source and no I'm no really execellent coder but it will be kinda tough. Try to help eachother out ya'll peace *******

[DarkCloud]

The only problem is VAC doesn't like any cheating whether its on non-secure servers or secure servers. Look at what they did to the competion. They did the microsoft way and totally eliminated the competition <CD, CSG, HLG, AND PALADIN!> which makes it easier for the cheating since now they have one single target which VAC but the system and network they're setting is um.... complicated.

[DjOsiris]

Yes atleast it is one target for now however valve's security measures are as you say complicated at the least and so that's why I believe that the cheating community needs to work together harder than it's been going on lately. Wasting all this time testing bogus hooks when if the ppl working to bypass VAC were working in a COLLECTIVE envoirnment.