about new MM system on MU GLOBAL

[malman]

hi
i would like to know how many of u were actually banned from MU GLOBAL after they intruduce their new MM system of GMs and if they ban IP as well as account?

thx

[paintballboi07]

Well my account was recently banned, but I have never hacked on this account before so I'm not sure why.

[pokeureye]

the MM system is pretty bad because even if u dont hack and some ppl dont like u they can get their friends and all report sayin that u hack but u really dont and u will b banned =/....

[_stormer_]

its acually a really stupid idea (in my opinion anyway), if they wanted to catch hackers, then they could have devised another way to be able to. But really, this new MM thingy is really gay... Like poke said above, if someone doesnt like you, they can get all their friends/guildmates to report you, and you will probably get banned...

[RvB shut up]

yeah the best way to go is just to lie low for a while untill they stop being so active on it, dont afk, just turn your hitcount up

and going legit for short periods of times is fun too...

for about 5m

but that's not the point, the point is getting your name out as a legit player

[paintballboi07]

yeah the best way to go is just to lie low for a while untill they stop being so active on it, dont afk, just turn your hitcount up

and going legit for short periods of times is fun too...

for about 5m

but that's not the point, the point is getting your name out as a legit player

That doesnt even work. My account was a legit account. Completely legit. And it was STILL BANNED. It really sucks if you ask me. :angry:

[Glowing_wrath]

FYI, the MMs are currently checking through the server for all logs intending to eliminate all ex and present hackers, dupe bug abusers.

It does not matter if you are able to change your IP because Gameguard does retrieve sufficient information from your pc to determine and link all your account up to all the terminals you have used.

So as to speak, it does not matter that you have not hacked in just 1 account but have hacked/duped in 10 others because it is possible to link you up from your terminal address. The MMs are determined to exterminate all hackers with the help from some higher lvl legit players from certain guilds.

Decide the path you wish to take and try NOT to piss others in the game because there are too many wingers in global who were/are hackers but there are also legits high lvls who are friends to the old GM and present MMs.

For all high lvl hackers, try not to push your luck too far. You do not know who you are up against and the next person you anger may get your account BANNED losing all your hacked levels, sets, weapons and everything you have.

You can choose to ignore this post but if you get banned don't beg in MPC, no one here can help you in any way.

One thing is for sure, Webzen reserves the rights to pull the plug and end this game for all of us. This is all i should say for now.

[malman]

FYI, the MMs are currently checking through the server for all logs intending to eliminate all ex and present hackers, dupe bug abusers.

It does not matter if you are able to change your IP because Gameguard does retrieve sufficient information from your pc to determine and link all your account up to all the terminals you have used.

So as to speak, it does not matter that you have not hacked in just 1 account but have hacked/duped in 10 others because it is possible to link you up from your terminal address. The MMs are determined to exterminate all hackers with the help from some higher lvl legit players from certain guilds.

Decide the path you wish to take and try NOT to piss others in the game because there are too many wingers in global who were/are hackers but there are also legits high lvls who are friends to the old GM and present MMs.

For all high lvl hackers, try not to push your luck too far. You do not know who you are up against and the next person you anger may get your account BANNED losing all your hacked levels, sets, weapons and everything you have.

You can choose to ignore this post but if you get banned don't beg in MPC, no one here can help you in any way.

One thing is for sure, Webzen reserves the rights to pull the plug and end this game for all of us. This is all i should say for now.

...ok that log checking worries me ...... how far back can they track u if u used hack?
and about duping are u telling they will delete all dupes or they will delete only accounts witch were used for duping?
thx

[RvB shut up]

It seems wierd that MU would now finaly start to CARE about hackers

Perhaps they do go through all the logs and everything, so we would all be baned... then what do you get?

An assload of pissed off hackers aiming at your server, doesnt sound too good to me

[_stormer_]

if webzen should go through all the logs (I mean all 943750917359x405973094652 zillion of them) they would find that everyone was a hacker in some way/shape/or form (well, everyone is a bit harsh, but 99.9% is about right). MuGlobal is probably the most hacked server or game out there. If you ban all those peoples, your right RvB, you would have atleast a few people who knew what they are doing, and would create all chaos for webzen. Even more than it is now, webzen should reconsider what they are doing about all the hackers... they should be carefull about who they piss off...

[RvB shut up]

the problom is they see hacking as a problom : were it's just part of every game ever

it's justa HUGE problom on MU because it takes to gosh darn long to level!

I realy think if they talked to hackers in general they could realy get an idea on how they whould run things and take care of hackers, rather than doing this "you say it we ban it" method, anybody you dont like is baned

[MastaKi2k]

LOL ..MM I am necessary on report !! I test i have created new account and charackter and have sent on mail MM_Sun@webzen.co.kr that this player the hacker (my noobs account) Week and blocked this account !!!!! MM the system sucks..
maybe ***ing noob report you ..and bye acc

[ßïø]

i've already saw using a lot of hacks....selling them...but never have been banned....and i've already reported a guy hacking sendin photos and all and he wasnt banned too....i dont think this really works...

[Xtasies]

I can see this system don't work all it's does it kill the game, and there will be no one want to play, because regardless of you hack or not, if some one don't like or jealous of you and lie about you, then kiss your account good bye!

[hellminion]

lets all go bitch about MM using the 155lipsum server wide chat hack =)

[Lucifre]

then ure looking for trouble hellminion. ;)

[hellminion]

i donno, i keep doing it and getting messages that saying"hacking will result in bieng banned" but i have yet to be banned

[DaniloHalfordbr]

MM bloqued ip and account.
in my site have screen[MM] Jun
www.muhitdupe.cjb.net

[RvB shut up]

MM bloqued ip and account.
in my site have screen[MM] Jun
www.muhitdupe.cjb.net


tough dude, I wouldn't AFK in d3 :P

i'd recomend like lt6, right before 7, they hang in lt7 and d3, and in the bull room on d2

[Lucifre]

lol. what did u say to Jun?

[Glowing_wrath]

Hi guys, it pays to lie low for the moment.

Anyone who trains in lost towers may be able to verify this, many winged characters have not appeared for a while. Heard they were being blocked or banned.

The MMs are currently still active. It appears that the MMs are using high lvl unmarked characters and accounts looking out for hackers or pretending to afk while lying in wait for unsuspecting hackers to come by.

Just to pass the information around, global will be going through a major phase change which will benefit webzen's efforts to market their game worldwide.

Will keep you guys updated, as for now good luck to all!

[Xtasies]

Also, there were a message from the so call [MM]Jun, 350+ accounts were banned last night, and they said they were using invisible chars to catch hacker! so head up and chill for awhile guys.... oh and 1 more thing, I hear that they also use Ring of transformation to turn themself into a mobs and sat there waiting for one of us to come by... so look out!

[l33t3r]

ring of transformation is useless, u would still see their nick...
and invisible chars is just a myth,dun think thats possible (not in the given ps source at least)

[Xtasies]

Like I said the ring thingy may just be a rumors, and let me tell you what was happen last week, and tell me who is this guy then:

well it's not completely un-seenable, I actually saw one in LT7 Hotspot, he teleport right next to our group, I accidentally go lure the mobs in the upper corner and my mouse pointer point at the guys, all you see was an outline of the chars appear in orange color, (only if you point at him or you won't notice he is there), then I go like wtf, then i stop and kept looking at him, then i realized the name was all upper case JASON, then he stood there for couple of second then teleport away, now if someone become a killer you can't teleport right? unless you using Mupie or MuHax! but MuPie is not working on Global, and MuHax server was down at the time -- and was lucky for me I don't have any hack on, but one of the guy in our group have SpeedHack on! I tried to pm him but too late... his account now is gone!

[RvB shut up]

So invisable chars actualy exist? that's interesting, I thought that was a rumor, well I guess you guys should lie low

Glowing how do you know all this stuff? and what is this thing about marketing all about? major changes? heh, sounds interesting

[paintballboi07]

So invisable chars actualy exist? that's interesting, I thought that was a rumor, well I guess you guys should lie low

Glowing how do you know all this stuff? and what is this thing about marketing all about? major changes? heh, sounds interesting

If I recall correctly, Glowing was the guy who posted about having some hack to make random items drop. He never released this hack, and no one ever saw it, so I wouldn't believe everything he says.

[Glowing_wrath]

If I recall correctly, Glowing was the guy who posted about having some hack to make random items drop. He never released this hack, and no one ever saw it, so I wouldn't believe everything he says.

As a matter of fact, there are members of this forum who have got stuff. If paintballboi remembers, not many old MPC members remain active in this forum thereafter.

The only reason as to why i do not think it would be wise to release this program to the public is due to the fact that we have all witnessed the abuse and fall of mupie.

The program does not make random items drop. I am sure some of us know why the SQL program was not allowed to be released here in MPC. Do read up the old threads with regards to what i have talked about with my program.

I have also mentioned that it doesn't hack, it manipulates the server. Do ask yourself, if equipping everyone with a program like the SQL is advisable.

I did offer to send it to renzime. Just that he decline.

[limbomana]

yeah the mm is kinda lame :squareeye

[pionpong]

For your info:

1.- Invisible GM exist. For example, on a private server, you can create an invisible GM setting the field ctl1_code=8 (i think) in the Characters table.

2.- When you use HIT HACK, no matter Mupie, Muhax, 1@@@hack, etc your nick and account is recorded in a log file, saying that the client speed is incorrect and there is a high probability of using cheats. They dont need to walk around to find you because they have you all logged.
If you abuse the hack like a ****ing ass using autokilling, pking, ksing other players, those players report the hacker and they check the nick on the list, if you are there, say byebye to your acc.

3.- If you dupe an item, it's loged too, they can find even the person who dropped the first box that generated theitem, they can get your ip and find all your accs and block them. If you used another acc to upgrade the item to max and after that you gave them to your main char, they can find your main char too.

It's not a rumor or a lie, i have a private server and that's the way i manage my server. It's 100% hackers/dupers free. Do u still think you are so cool because nobody saw you hacking? A simple report from a legit high lvl player and your acc will be checked. Try to be nice with ppl.

[malman]

For your info:

1.- Invisible GM exist. For example, on a private server, you can create an invisible GM setting the field ctl1_code=8 (i think) in the Characters table.

2.- When you use HIT HACK, no matter Mupie, Muhax, 1@@@hack, etc your nick and account is recorded in a log file, saying that the client speed is incorrect and there is a high probability of using cheats. They dont need to walk around to find you because they have you all logged.
If you abuse the hack like a ****ing ass using autokilling, pking, ksing other players, those players report the hacker and they check the nick on the list, if you are there, say byebye to your acc.

3.- If you dupe an item, it's loged too, they can find even the person who dropped the first box that generated theitem, they can get your ip and find all your accs and block them. If you used another acc to upgrade the item to max and after that you gave them to your main char, they can find your main char too.

It's not a rumor or a lie, i have a private server and that's the way i manage my server. It's 100% hackers/dupers free. Do u still think you are so cool because nobody saw you hacking? A simple report from a legit high lvl player and your acc will be checked. Try to be nice with ppl.

but what for example i am lvl 200+ and killing mobs in lorencia in 1hit what then?
and another thing how long ago are this logs recorded?
like 1 weeke, month,....?
thx for answer

[Xtasies]

I also think they will check the duration of your time frame, the time and date you join, and how many hours you play per/day, by looking at those info, they pretty much know who doing what.

If someone join 2 days ago, and play 2 hours aday, and bam you are lvl 300+, well that is technically impossible, so like said before, yes we can use hack, sql, etc... but if you don't know how do use it ... then don't otherwise you will be screw!

[pionpong]

No, there isnt stadistic like if you play 2 days and you got lvl 120 = hacker.

The server checks your attack speed using the agility formula. Then, it calculates the time between each hit and calculates the *suppossed* attack speed to atack with that speed, if both speeds doesnt match, you are caught.

If you are level 200 and you kill a spider in 1 hit no error is generated because you need only 1 hit to kill it. Don't worry, if you dont use hack you havent any problem but, if u used it only for 5 min, you can be banned.

For your info those logs exist since the server started, in global more than 1 year ago. And for your info too, there are some legit players who report people who usually ks or act like an ass. MMs trusth on some of them and they always check the ones they say.

EDIT: Don't you love this game?

[paintballboi07]

Actually, you guys are all wrong in a way.

The server's built in speed hack detector sucks IMHO. It doesn't detect anything unless you use a speed hack. 1 Hit hacks aren't the same. Instead they generate an Overkill error. To find the source of an overkill error is very hard with 50+ people. Considering global has about 1000+ people in each server, it's damn near impossible to find the source of the error. So instead, the admins resort to invisible characters.

Also, duped items don't get detected unless
1) They run a dupe check using the tools on ragezone. It checks for items with similar id's on the database. This requires a server shutdown, and global has never run this.
2) The items meet, either in inventory or vault. Even when they do, the logs scroll by so fast, it's (once again) nearly impossible to see them. The admins would have to search the logs to find that error message which I highly doubt that they do.

[pionpong]

Also, duped items don't get detected unless
1) They run a dupe check using the tools on ragezone. It checks for items with similar id's on the database. This requires a server shutdown, and global has never run this.
2) The items meet, either in inventory or vault. Even when they do, the logs scroll by so fast, it's (once again) nearly impossible to see them. The admins would have to search the logs to find that error message which I highly doubt that they do.

You are talking about the db, on logs you can find all trades, pick and drops.

[paintballboi07]

You are talking about the db, on logs you can find all trades, pick and drops.

We aren't discussing what's in the logs. We are discussing how you get caught hacking/duping.

[vietasian]

okay yea so i hacked till lv 90 and im playing legit now do u thin they will bann my acount in the future by checking my logs... i also stop the day before they started the MM thingy

[RvB shut up]

the odds of them checking logs is highly unlikely, how long did you stop hacking?

perhaps they delete logs after a while

I havent hacked sence last june, and i'm fine

[nuber]

a invistble char is cntrl code 4 and gm is 8

[Lucifre]

rudolph we know that. ;)

[RvB shut up]

heh, I didn't, it's always good to know more and more GM commands incase you ever end up GM somewere

I seriously did not know invisable char's existed, that's realy cool, I remember one time somebody got an e-mail... well supposedly... from a GM and it said "I was on my INVISABLE character" and the "INVISABLE" was the part that gave it away at first, but it's always good to add more information to the list, and if you already knew it it's good to re affirm

[Lucifre]

RvB its "Invisible"

[pionpong]

perhaps they delete logs after a while

Why should they delete the logs? I'm not a security expert but, why should i delete my system hacking proofs?
If i need space on my HD i should back them up in a CD or DVD.

[Lucifre]

like sungam says somewhere i remember, they wouldnt save logs as logs could reach very high amounts like 1 gb in like 5 minutes

[sofilus]

my case :
Private server
2days
30people
3GB txt files

[Lucifre]

there. i dont believe webzen wanna waste their hdd with mroe than 1gb

[l33t3r]

ya, since its not even p2p...
rather have a few gms roaming around...