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Cowboy[Texas]

8th July 2004, 07:30

Title: Everything you wanted to know about GUID Bans
Written by: Cowboy[Texas]

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### TABLE OF CONTENTS ###
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I. GUID and GLOBAL GUID BANS
II. HARDWARE GUID BANS
III. POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS FOR HARDWARE GUID BANS
IV. AVOIDING A HARDWARE GUID BAN
V. HARDWARE BAN MYTHS, GUID BAN MYTHS and other PB URBAN LEGENDS
VI. TOOLS and DOWNLOADS
VII. CREDITS and SOURCES

Section I
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### GUID and GUID BANS ###
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GUID – In general, GUID is an acronym that stands for “globally unique identifier”. The GUID inside PunkBuster is used to identify players with something more solid than their playing name or IP address. Because AA does not use a CD Key like many other retail games, the GUID is a unique, alpha-numeric sequence that is generated by PB and AA based on a combination of your registration information (i.e. - user name, password, email, etc.). Every time you connect to an authorized server, you will see a PB message that states “PunkBuster Client: PB Server assigned guid = 81621a4febc43125ad4680479c52cd31” This is YOUR own personal GUID and it will never change unless you change characters or you get GUID banned…then it will be shortened (see GUID BAN below).

GLOBAL GUID BAN –This means that your character is now useless. There is no way to get past a Global GUID ban except to create a new character and start over. This is a ban on you character only… not on your computer. However, if you were Globally GUID banned, your computer might also be HARDWARE GUID banned separately (SEE “HARDWARE BANS” BELOW).

To determine if you were Globally GUID banned, you can look in your Americas Army/ System folder and open the ArmyOps.log. There is a ton of info in this file… so select EDIT on the toolbar and use FIND to search for the word “kick”. There may be several “kick”s…. so read each one. If you see “KICK NOTIFICATION: -playername- has been kicked for an undefined reason: YOU HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM THIS GAME SERVER VIA PUNKBUSTER ... GLOBAL PUNKBUSTER GUID BAN AF70A0C2” … then this means your character has been Globally GUID banned. The AF70A0C2 is your new GUID ban number. This GUID replaces your previous player GUID, which means your character is useless. Whenever you try to use that banned character… you will always see the same Global GUID ban number.

Section II
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### HARDWARE BANS ###
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HARDWARE GUID BAN - To determine if you were HARDWARE banned, you can look in your Americas Army/ System folder and open the ArmyOps.log. There is a ton of info in this file… so select EDIT on the toolbar and use FIND to search for the word “kick”. There may be several “kick”s…. so read each one. If you see “KICK NOTIFICATION: -playername- has been kicked for an undefined reason: YOU HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM THIS GAME SERVER VIA PUNKBUSTER ... GLOBAL PUNKBUSTER HARDWARE BAN 2B48CD61” … then this means your computer has been HARDWARE GUID banned. The 2B48CD61 is the GUID assigned to your computer ban. Whenever you try to use that computer… you will always see the same HARDWARE GUID number.

QUESTION: How does PB ban my computer ???
ANSWER: PB scans your computer and collects the following information…

1) Hard Drive SMART information (if available) (for each hard drive installed)
2) Hard Drive serial number (for each hard drive installed)
3) Network Adapter MAC address (for each NIC installed)

Once this info is collected, PB creates a private hash (a unique alpha-numberic code). It is estimated that this hash will only change when aprox 50% to 75% of the items above above are changed (although this varies based on your pc configuration). As a result, you may need a new hard drive(s) and a new Network adaptor(s) in order to play on PB enabled servers again.

** EXCEPTION: I use a RAID controller which prevents PB from obtaining any of the desired information about my hard drives. Therefore, when I was hardware banned, I tried two things to get un-banned… and they both worked.. First, I changed my network adapter. This un-banned me. Second, I used SMAC 1.2 in order to spoof or fake my banned network card MAC address. This un-banned me.

** FYI: There are rumors that if you play a new, clean or un-banned character on a pc that is hardware banned, the new character will also be globally GUID banned or banned in some way related to your computer HARDWARE GUID ban. I have found this to NOT be correct (assuming you no longer have any hacks or file mismatches). During my testing, I have used multiple players while testing how to get my hardware un-banned... and none of those have been banned yet. Yes, they get kicked because of the hardware ban… but my armyops.log always showed the same BAN number regardless of which character I used… which means PB was kicking my players based on that specific pc BAN… not based on the character. Furthermore, I can still use those characters on any un-banned computer.

Section III
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### POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS FOR HARDWARE BAN ###
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If you find yourself hardware banned, there are a few things you can try. These are not guaranteed to work for everyone and you may need to try one or all of these solutions. You are encouraged to read the original threads provided below each possible solution.

First and foremost, before attempting to get un-hardware banned, you should clean your pc to remove the hacks that got you banned in the first place. Otherwise, if you are successful in getting un-hardware banned and you forget to clean the hacks off of your pc…. then you will probably end up GUID banned again or HARDWARE GUID banned again very soon. To do this, you should run “cleaner.exe” which can be found in the Americas Army / System folder. This will replace all critical files and maps. Depending upon what hacks you used, there may be other files that need to be removed… but you will have to determine that based on the hacks you have used. You could also completely uninstall AA… then manually delete any and all remaining folders and files left behind. Then re-install AA.

1) Disable SMART for Hard Drive located in your computer BIOS settings. This is not an option in every pc . If you are not familiar with the BIOS, you may want to avoid this option <or> seek help from someone who is familiar with pc’s.

2) Changing your MAC address with SMAC (latest version 1.2 for W2k, XP)
** THREADS: http://www.mpcforum.com/showthread.php?t=43986
http://ucforum.net/showthread.php?t=16385
** DOWNLOAD: http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/

3) Try using the Hardware Spoofer (By Eleethal)
** THREADS: http://www.mpcforum.com/showthread.php?t=47054
http://ucforum.net/showthread.php?t=18431
** DOWNLOAD: http://www.mpcforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=939
http://ucforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3010

(*Note: When using the Hardware Spoofer, there is a possibility of no in-game sound when using this. This may not work for everyone. This may not work if you are already hardware banned. XP users may have to set it to W2K compatibility by right clicking the file and selecting properties)

4) As a last resort, you may actually have to replace some of your hardware.

First – Based on the pricing, the first component you may want to replace would be the network adaptor. You can usually purchase an inexpensive NIC for $10-$15 (however, as mentioned above… you may be able to spoof / fake the MAC address on your current adaptor, which may solve the problem without purchasing a new one).

Second – You may be unfortunate enough to have to purchase a new hard drive. I’m still not sure if you can slave your banned drive to your new drive and remain un-banned. It will depend upon your configuration and how PB is creating their hash. I do know that PB will still read the serial number from the original hard drive even if it is slaved. The task is trying to add or change enough of the scanned hardware in order to cause PB to create a completely new hash.

Third – Since the task is trying to add or change enough of the scanned hardware in order to cause PB to create a completely new hash…. I am currently trying to test a the theory of adding two, three or even four additional network adaptors for PB to read and add into their hash. I do NOT know if this will work as I am still waiting to try this on my next “test” ban. Unfortunately, some of my attempts at getting banned have taken 2 or 3 days to go into effect.

Section IV
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### AVOIDING A HARDWARE BAN ###
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I can NOT possibly offer any guarantee against a hardware ban. So use any solutions at your own risk… as it could prove to be costly if you do get hardware banned.

1) I use a RAID controller which prevents PB from obtaining any of the desired information about my hard drives. Therefore, when I was hardware banned, I tried two things to get un-banned… and they both worked.. First, I changed my network adapter. This un-banned me. Second, I used SMAC 1.2 in order to spoof or fake my banned network card MAC address.
This un-banned me.

2) Try using the Hardware Spoofer (By Eleethal)
** THREAD: http://www.mpcforum.com/showthread.php?t=47054
http://ucforum.net/showthread.php?t=18431

** DOWNLOAD: http://www.mpcforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=939
http://ucforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3010

(*Note: There is a possibility of no in-game sound when using this. This may not work for everyone. This may not work if you are already hardware banned. XP users may have to set it to W2K compatibility by right clicking the file and selecting properties)

O.O - - - CONTINUED IN NEXT POST - - - O.O

;) - - - CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS POST - - - ;)

Section V
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## HARDWARE BAN MYTHS, GUID BAN MYTHS + other PB URBAN LEGENDS ##
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Some things that have been posted and discussed… but they simply will not work.

1) Changing your hard drive serial number: You can NOT change your hard drive serial number. There is not any program that will do that. There are programs that will change the “volume” serial number… which does absolutely nothing to avoid a hardware GUID ban.

2) Changing your IP address: This is useless. PB does not ban based on IP, as many IP addresses change on a regular basis and are redistributed to other internet users.

3) Registry Editing: There is no unique info in the registry about AA, and PB does not use any registry info in their scans. There is a key called “packagecode” in the registry that looks like this: A90C6D45C9860CC40BA081A23D1BF552 …but I have noticed that it is exactly the same on all four of my computers. So this is obviously not any type of CD key or unique hash that should be changed.

4) Removing and re-installing AA will not get you un-banned. If done properly, it should ensure that you no longer have any active hacks that can be detected by PB. This action should keep you from getting banned, but it will not un-ban you for a GUID BAN or for a HARDWARE BAN.

5) New characters used on a banned PC: There are rumors that if you play a new, clean or un-banned character on a pc that is hardware banned, the new character will also be GUID banned or banned in some way related to your computer ban. I have found this to NOT be correct (assuming you no longer have any hacks or file mismatches). During my testing, I have used multiple players while testing how to get my hardware un-banned... and none of those have been banned yet. Yes, they get kicked because of the hardware ban… but my armyops.log always showed the same BAN number regardless of which character I used… which means PB was kicking my players based on that specific pc BAN… not based on the character. Furthermore, I can still use those characters on any un-banned computer.

6) PB is violating your rights and getting personal info: Bullshit. You can’t file a lawsuit against Evenbalance for stealing personal information… because they don’t. Quote from Evenbalance: “no personal information of any kind is examined, stored or transmitted by PunkBuster”. This means that they are not violating your civil rights or causing you any mental anguish. They don’t look at the porn stored on your computer and they don’t read love notes to your girlfriend. This game has rules and we are making our own choices when we to break those rules. Furthermore, They are well within their rights to do what they do… because you accept the Terms when you install the game.

7) Flashing your lights at passing car: They will not turn around and shoot you. They are not part of a gang or any other terrorist organization.

Section VI
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### TOOLS and DOWNLOADS ###
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Below is a list of potential downloads that may (or may not) be useful for helping to prevent a hardware ban and/or to help avoid a hardware ban.

1) Changing your network card MAC address with SMAC.
** DOWNLOAD: http://www.klcconsulting.net/smac/
** INSTRUCTIONS: Visit link: http://www.nthelp.com/NT6/change_mac_w2k.htm

2) Hardware Spoofer (By Eleethal)
** DOWNLOAD: http://www.mpcforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=939
http://ucforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3010
** INSTRUCTIONS / COMMENTS: This is a .dll file that will spoof / fake some
hardware information in hopes of fooling PB so that they cannot ban your
hardware. You can also use the loaders listed below to initialize this .dll when
you want to use it. There is a possibility of no in-game sound when using this.
This may not work for everyone. This may not work if you are already
hardware banned. XP users may have to set it to W2K compatibility by right
clicking the file and selecting properties.

3) DLL / File Loader (By Fear)
** DOWNLOAD: http://www.mpcforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=941
** INSTRUCTIONS / COMMENTS: This is a loader program that may be helpful
when used in conjunction with the Hardware Spoofer – By Eleethal (above)
This program calls the DLL to initialize itself. If used correctly, you should get a
popup saying that the DLL is loaded.. "Hard Drive Spoofer Activated". Do NOT
close the loader once you load the DLL or else it will unload the DLL from the
memory. When finished playing AA, you may then close the program

4) DLL / File Loader (By Altamash)
** DOWNLOAD: http://www.mpcdownloads.com/_mpc_d0wn_h4x_/AAO/
** INSTRUCTIONS / COMMENTS: This is a loader program that may be helpful
when used in conjunction with the Hardware Spoofer – By Eleethal (above)

5) Source Code for Hardware Spoofer (By Eleethal)
** THREAD: http://ucforum.net/showthread.php?t=18506
** INSTRUCTIONS / COMMENTS: This is the source code for the Hardware
Spoofer .dll by Eleethal. If you’re a programmer or coder… feel free to expand
on this code and offer up something really great !

6) Western Digital “Data Life Guard” – Diagnostic tools for hard drives.
** DOWNLOAD: http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp#diagutils
** INSTRUCTIONS / COMMENTS: This tool is useful for determining your hard drive
serial number without having to open your pc. It will NOT change your HDD
serial number... just identify info about your drives or perform low level formats.

Section VII
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### CREDITS and SOURCES ###
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The following is a list of sources from which I gained information directly or indirectly from various posts and PMs. Thanks to all those who supported my hardware research and to those who performed their own serious of tests and research.

Evil Bert – For hash information
Gonzo – For hash information
Eleethal – For Spoofer and various research.
Xanupox – For hardware research and testing
Importdrinker – For hardware research and testing
Xwave2003 – For hardware research and testing
Fear – For dll loader
Altamash – For dll loader

Thank you,
Cowboy[Texas]

:bud:

JohnBLucky

8th July 2004, 07:32

Extremely nice guide. I've been waiting to see the full version of this since you posted the little snippet on MpC. Lots of good info and some good hard facts. This should be pinned for the time being as it's a great resource.

I saw this when you posted it a minute ago on the "Walkthroughs and Downloads" thread and felt quite honored, but this thread really should have it's own sticky. It's an extremely usefull quide for anyone questioning a ban or ban prevention.

pimbasa

8th July 2004, 07:54

Dude this is like so great. I greatly appreciate this thread and also think it should be stickied. It answered so many of my questions that I didnt feel like posting. Thanks alot Cowboy.

Kahlen

8th July 2004, 08:04

anyway to get SMAC free?

Cowboy[Texas]

8th July 2004, 08:09

anyway to get SMAC free?

Yes... download the trial version.. thats what I did. I dont know what will happen after it expires. Maybe you could just use a different email when you download it again in 30 days.

The Fairy Queen

8th July 2004, 08:51

']Yes... download the trial version.. thats what I did. I dont know what will happen after it expires. Maybe you could just use a different email when you download it again in 30 days.

doesn't look like you can change anything.... :cry:

pimbasa

8th July 2004, 09:26

anyway to get SMAC free?

Yea there is. Try searching for smac v1.1, it should be free. I remember using it but after i reformated my computer I forgot to back it up.

The Fairy Queen

8th July 2004, 11:11

Yea there is. Try searching for smac v1.1, it should be free. I remember using it but after i reformated my computer I forgot to back it up.

ah. thank you very much. found it.

http://www.xcopy32.com/downloads/details.php?id=222

here's the link to get v1.1, if you all want it.

noob-cheater

8th July 2004, 12:48

Damn...this tread just answerd all my questions!!! Thanks man!

00kes

8th July 2004, 13:51

7) Flashing your lights at passing car: They will not turn around and shoot you. They are not part of a gang or any other terrorist organization.

good to know ;)

bacontwist

8th July 2004, 15:33

any difference between smac 1.1 and the newer one? Can the 1.1 still do the same job???

Ronin

8th July 2004, 17:06

mabey this should reduce all the hardware guid spam around here, sounds good, thankyou

The Fairy Queen

8th July 2004, 20:34

any difference between smac 1.1 and the newer one? Can the 1.1 still do the same job???

I looked at the trial of v1.2 and v1.1, and I cannot find any real difference. still does the same thing.

JohnBLucky

8th July 2004, 21:49

SMAC 1.1 is the same thing as SMAC 1.2, however, 1.2 is only a trial version unless you pay. SMAC 1.1 was freeware you could download. That's the main reason most of us reccomend SMAC 1.1 as it's not illegal to pass around full version copies of that. It was removed from their site however.

Couch

8th July 2004, 21:56

Thank you!!! I'm not GUID banned and I hope I never get GUID/Hardware banned. But this cleared up so much! Thank you!

LethalInjection

8th July 2004, 23:03

good job dude, between me and you, this is basically common sense for ne one who has a basic to good knowledge of computers

hotguyms

9th July 2004, 02:55

Id read that post but it's to much damn reading and im not in the mood mabey later lol

Krazyman0_o

9th July 2004, 04:59

hey yall quick question. Can i play on a account i used on a Banned comp on a diff comp? or are those like GUID banned?

importdrinker

9th July 2004, 05:28

hey yall quick question. Can i play on a account i used on a Banned comp on a diff comp? or are those like GUID banned?

i found that only accounts that ur caught cheating with are guid banned. if ur trying to unban ur comp u dont have to make a new account if u get kicked for hardware ban. u can keep using a single "test" account as long as its clean....

SuicideCoder

9th July 2004, 22:32

God hardware ban sounds painful...if pb threatened to blow up your harddrive/s for accumulatiated use of any 3 hacks/multihacks then i bet only people who could code their own hacks would be confident enough to cheat...So that'd be like 40 or so people cheating out of like couple million players...although you don't need a hack to be an complete *** to everyone on a server. As a side-effect all accounts for sale on ebay would increase in value :P.l Their would probably also be an increase of friends coming over to other friends house's to use their computers ;)

Krazyman0_o

10th July 2004, 00:43

so your saying only on the accounts i hacked on are banned? so say a high honor unhacked account is NOT banned????
*crosses fingers for yes* lol

gil

10th July 2004, 18:28

Great guid, first time i saw it while helping.
Good to see people spending time on this! hooah.

JBL, you got competitors ;)

Krazyman0_o

10th July 2004, 19:05

so your saying only on the accounts i hacked on are banned? so say a high honor unhacked account is NOT banned????
*crosses fingers for yes* lol

can someone answer that please? :rolleyes:

gil

10th July 2004, 19:09

well, GUID ban is per account.
If you hack with one account and got guid banned, you can still hack with other accounts. but this specific account is gone.

So if you have high honor account, that you've never cheated with, it supposed to be live and kicking :D
notice i have high honor account since 2000, and i cheated and got many test accounts guid banned when PB came, and all this time.. my primary account was still running.

importdrinker

10th July 2004, 20:06

so your saying only on the accounts i hacked on are banned? so say a high honor unhacked account is NOT banned????
*crosses fingers for yes* lol
can someone answer that please? :rolleyes:

if you got hardware banned your non-cheat accounts shouldn't get banned by association. accounts are only banned for getting caught cheating, so any other accounts u have should work again once u get around hardware ban. getting kicked from pb server for a HARDWARE ban does not itself alone cause the account ur using to be GUID banned....

Krazyman0_o

11th July 2004, 21:16

ok, however the first time i got kicked from game with high honor it said Guid ban then next time it moved to hardware...so i kinda scared to try on new comp in case in ****ing hardwares that one too.

M@tri)x(

12th July 2004, 02:49

**** PunkBuster !!!! **** you evenbalance ! kiss my ass !
hehehe... MPC is KiNG!!!!!!!! :)

Alias777

12th July 2004, 04:44

that was spam..... maybe this should be locked to stop spam....

Krazyman0_o

12th July 2004, 08:18

can someone give me a simple yes or no too can i use my accounts i have on a hardware banned comp on a diff comp as long as i didn't hack with them.

I Like Chicken

12th July 2004, 08:29

can someone give me a simple yes or no too can i use my accounts i have on a hardware banned comp on a diff comp as long as i didn't hack with them.
Yes you can and you can even use them on the same comp. Check out the thread thats says for people who are hardware banned. Look throught there and there are lots of methods that work. Including mine ;)

PT_PT

12th July 2004, 12:47

|||**** You Punkbuster|||

M@tri)x(

12th July 2004, 17:02

I have intention to attack server PunkBuster with system DRDoS I will show this gay from evenbalance who here rules!
**** off evenbalance ! YEAH !

Cowboy[Texas]

12th July 2004, 17:52

can someone give me a simple yes or no too can i use my accounts i have on a hardware banned comp on a diff comp as long as i didn't hack with them.

Probably... YES you can. If your accounts are clean... and you never got busted while using them. You can use them on any non-banned computer. Also, even if you try them on the banned computer.... it should not cause them to get banned.... it will just kick them because of the computer ban... thats all.

M@tri)x(

12th July 2004, 19:48

dammit! this ****ed PunkBuster sees already HwSpoofer.dll... ****!!!
****ing evenbalance!

To **** these of people below :
Administration / Development:
Tony Ray
Micah Quinn
Björn Christoph
Stuart Dunsmore

Research / Technical:
Brett Lentz
Paul Seale
Ryan Mannion
Jason Roman
Daniel Ferguson
Wouter Tromp
Barry Worthy
Mat Collins

User Support / Documentation:
Ken Creedon
Jason Allison
Hendrik Thole
Kim Andersen
Doogie Beaudoin
Mother****ers !!!!!!!!

Krazyman0_o

12th July 2004, 20:02

thanks for answering...finally got that cleared up.

sharknaww

12th July 2004, 20:19

M@tri)x(

12th July 2004, 20:34

And you?? you do not understand that punkbuster detects file HwSpoofer.dll !!
That these mother****ers from evenbalance make difficult us life !

Loucifer

12th July 2004, 20:37

Its thier gd job man letem do it lol, Then on the other hand its our job to f@#k withem lmao...

{col} damien

13th July 2004, 02:43

i got cable if you got network card and it gets a ban just put it on the usb make a new account up then you are in i can have my cable on network or usb :=}

cheezed

13th July 2004, 07:22

And you?? you do not understand that punkbuster detects file HwSpoofer.dll !!
That these mother****ers from evenbalance make difficult us life !

Detects the HwSpoofer.dll??

Really? I haven't had any trouble with it... Then again I renamed the dll before I used it...

Does anyone else know about this being detected?

Byaku

13th July 2004, 17:44

SMAC 1.2 ...

Cant change the numbers of it.. Im hardware banned so, looks like i never can play AAO again

importdrinker

13th July 2004, 17:49

SMAC 1.2 ...

Cant change the numbers of it.. Im hardware banned so, looks like i never can play AAO again

u dont have to change the numbers...just select each of your connections listed at
the top and click "Update MAC" for each one.....your mac addresses will then be spoofed...

then just use hdprotector and u should be set.....dont give up hope...

(p.s. im guessing that since smac1.2 is an evaluation version they dont allow u to change the mac address, so smac1.2 may not work if u get banned with the spoofed address....)

Cowboy[Texas]

13th July 2004, 17:52

SMAC 1.2 ...

Cant change the numbers of it.. Im hardware banned so, looks like i never can play AAO again

I used version 1.2.... and you are correct.... its a trial version and you can only use the default numbers.... but that was enough to unban me during my tests. If not, Im sure you can get $ 10.00 eventually and buy a new network card.

the grinch

13th July 2004, 21:14

i have another ethernet card.. thats all i need to get un hw banned?

Byaku

14th July 2004, 00:25

Ok i have done that spoofed mac address.. The rest im going to try when im back from vakation, Going tomorrow Gran Canaria, Playa del Ingles for 2 weeks.. Thanks

The-Fighter

14th July 2004, 00:30

Buh I am lucky that I am not banned of PB ^^ (because I didn't use Pbhack at this time)

They want to boot all out, It's gonna crazy

doomfx

17th July 2004, 17:58

i have smart disabled on my hardrives and use a usb modem,
can i still be hardware banned?
thx

Cowboy[Texas]

17th July 2004, 19:13

i have smart disabled on my hardrives and use a usb modem,
can i still be hardware banned?
thx

Of course you can. Read the original post in this thread. They get a few different kinds of info from harddrive and info from network cards.

{col} damien

17th July 2004, 22:33

fudge

18th July 2004, 05:11

I used smac to spoof my mac address, but some programs can no longer connect, ie Quake 3, mirc, Kazaa, I tried reverting back to the old address but it still doesn't work. :(

cheezed

18th July 2004, 20:17

i got banned on all of my network cards and all my usb are also banned now i think i got a hd ban every time i have the smac going for me i just get the ban again on all new accounts
and with no cheats in

Check what your ban says. If you are only using the SMAC and not changing your hard drive info then you will be kicked/hd banned every time you try to play.

Those characters are probably not guid banned. Try using SMAC and the hwspoofer or hdprotector at the same time and let us know what happens.

Don't log in with your originial character that got you guid banned however, because that character is almost definately guid and hd banned.

{col} damien

18th July 2004, 23:16

Check what your ban says. If you are only using the SMAC and not changing your hard drive info then you will be kicked/hd banned every time you try to play.

Those characters are probably not guid banned. Try using SMAC and the hwspoofer or hdprotector at the same time and let us know what happens.

Don't log in with your originial character that got you guid banned however, because that character is almost definately guid and hd banned.

hdprotector i tryed looking for it but cant find it any where
can you put it here for me

myzticdark

22nd July 2004, 18:51

eerr ive got a question to you cowboy.....

is your ass already banned by pb or are you a lucky free man?

Cowboy[Texas]

22nd July 2004, 19:00

eerr ive got a question to you cowboy.....

is your ass already banned by pb or are you a lucky free man?

Actually, Im both :laugh: I have multiple pc's to use, but I do have one computer that was banned during the testing that I did for the topic of this thread... although I have successfully figured out how to unban it. Therefore I can be banned or unbanned depending on my mood. If im testing hardware spoofs, etc. I will use the banned hardware configuration. If I want to test hacks, I use the unbanned hardware configuration.

kevinb721

22nd July 2004, 20:53

Hey Cowboy, i hate to bother you about anything else, but when i open up my device manager, i see this: VIA Serial ATA RAID Controller. This wouldnt happen to be what you have is it..?
thnx

Cowboy[Texas]

22nd July 2004, 21:40

I have an ata RAID controller.... and you have sata RAID (your is better).... but yes they are the same thing. If your harddrive is actually connencted to the RAID controller, then its doubtful that PB can see any of your harddrive info (serial no, smart id, etc.). This is good because if you get hardware banned, I believe that it will be a ban on your network card only. Thats what happened to me in my testing... so I simply spoof or unspoof my network mac address to be banned or unbanned.

Towncivilian

22nd July 2004, 22:17

my bro has one of his HDs with SATA i think... but not the other, so i can get HD banned on that too

Cowboy[Texas]

22nd July 2004, 22:41

my bro has one of his HDs with SATA i think... but not the other, so i can get HD banned on that too

ATA (aka: EIDE) as well as SATA connections are readable... but if they are connected to a RAID controller... I have yet to find any software that can gain access and read the desired ino from the drives.

NOTE: The SATA could be different... as I personally have an ATA RAID and I have not tested SATA RAID.

kevinb721

22nd July 2004, 23:12

Nice man, is there a way to tell if the RAID is connected to my hard drive or not? Like is there a way maybe without opening my case?

Nopiw

22nd July 2004, 23:23

']ATA (aka: EIDE) as well as SATA connections are readable... but if they are connected to a RAID controller... I have yet to find any software that can gain access and read the desired ino from the drives.

NOTE: The SATA could be different... as I personally have an ATA RAID and I have not tested SATA RAID.
I think pb cant find your HD serial, but there R programms that do !

Ever thought of a tool for YOUR Raid controller? Use a monitoring utility for the cortroller, this will get the info of the HDs.
(The Raid controller has to know these infos.)

Cowboy[Texas]

23rd July 2004, 01:00

Ever thought of a tool for YOUR Raid controller? Use a monitoring utility for the cortroller, this will get the info of the HDs.
(The Raid controller has to know these infos.)

Nope... Ive tried it. The RAID software will not display the s/n and neither will software from the hdd mfg (Western Digital). I do have a dos version of diagnositcs from WD that I can boot to... and it disables the raid config so it can get the info. The Windows versions of the RAID software and harddrive software can get model numbers, volume serials, etc... but not smart info (as its not active on raid) and not the firmware serial no.

Nice man, is there a way to tell if the RAID is connected to my hard drive or not? Like is there a way maybe without opening my case?

Download this little program and install it. See if it can tell you the serial number of your harddrive... if it can't then its probablly because your drive is connected to the raid controller.

http://www.hdtune.com/

Also, in device mgr... does your "DISK DRIVES" node show your hdd as a SCSI Disk Device ? Do you also show a node called "SCSI and RAID Controllers" ? I guess that is where you saw the Via SATA Raid.... right ?

kevinb721

23rd July 2004, 01:02

']Nope... Ive tried it. The RAID software will not display the s/n and neither will software from the hdd mfg (Western Digital). I do have a dos version of diagnositcs from WD that I can boot to... and it disables the raid config so it can get the info.

Download this little program and install it. See if it can tell you the serial number of your harddrive... if it can't then its probablly because your drive is connected to the raid controller.

http://www.hdtune.com/

Also, in device mgr... does your "DISK DRIVES" node show your hdd as a SCSI Disk Device ? Do you also show a node called "SCSI and RAID Controllers" ? I guess that is where you saw the Via SATA Raid.... right ?

Yea, it says SCSI and RAID controllers. Is that not a good sign?

--Oh and by the way...i lanched that nifty little program you sent me...it did recognize my hard drive serial...it said WD and a bunch of numbers. (im guessing Western Digital) Im very good with computers but probably not as good as you, and i wouldnt know if thats a good sign or a bad sign.

myzticdark

25th July 2004, 18:30

ok, ive got 4 computers in here. One (my) is gb. Im testing the second computer with pb servers and it works! I tested it last week with the notebook (new!) from my brother and it didnt works...humm...whats up with pb?? I dont know anything^^

munk

28th July 2004, 08:29

gil

28th July 2004, 11:10

importdrinker

28th July 2004, 18:49

Just 1 more thing i have Mac spoofer 1.1 and iam can see all my offline network mac's ... should i spoof them all or just the active 1's

YES...spoof all ur network connections....it cant hurt....i used smac1.2 but what u have should work....if not try smac1.2

replacing ur hard drive (as i did $80) is NOT necessary if u use a hardware spoofer like hdprotector....

Cowboy[Texas]

28th July 2004, 19:21

ok consider this, Iam HW banned so i bought a new HD for my pc... but if I put only the new clean HD in my pc, MAC spoof my network cards ( ADSL usb modem, onboard networkcard) and go play AA it will be banished 2 though ... if so, what do i need to change in my pc to play again with no cheats ... couse i have twl matchs and iam tired to go into my friends house to play =\

Just 1 more thing i have Mac spoofer 1.1 and iam can see all my offline network mac's ... should i spoof them all or just the active 1's

I think I understand what you asked...

1) If you bought a new HDD.... and you spoof the MAC address on your all your network card(s).... you should CERTAINLY be un-banned and in great shape.

2) The thing about spoofing all your network cards may or may not be required. You can test this by simply spoofing one at a time. I not completely sure if PB reads the info from inactive network devices... but possibly.

--Oh and by the way...i lanched that nifty little program you sent me...it did recognize my hard drive serial...it said WD and a bunch of numbers. (im guessing Western Digital) Im very good with computers but probably not as good as you, and i wouldnt know if thats a good sign or a bad sign.

It will display some info at the top (i.e. WDC WD800BB-00DEA0 (80 GB) this is just the model info. However, look at the bottom left of the window and find the section that says "Serial number:" <<< Is there any info in this sectin or not ??

kevinb721

1st August 2004, 05:51

']It will display some info at the top (i.e. WDC WD800BB-00DEA0 (80 GB) this is just the model info. However, look at the bottom left of the window and find the section that says "Serial number:" <<< Is there any info in this sectin or not ??

Yea, it says WD-WCAHL5070164. Im guessing thats the serial number :ermm:. Now that i know that the serial number is not hidden, (by the way, what would it have said if it could not find my serial number?) how can i activate or hook up my RAID Controller so that it does hide my serial?

sharknaww

1st August 2004, 06:11

Well I bought A new HD Last night and forgot to change my MAc Addresses and got banned again.

importdrinker

1st August 2004, 07:15

Well I bought A new HD Last night and forgot to change my MAc Addresses and got banned again.

your new hard drive is still good unless u got caught cheating with it...
hardware does not become "infected" with a HW ban by banned hardware, only hardware caught cheating gets banned...
if thats what u were implying, otherwise...fahgedaboudit

chrisdav45

2nd August 2004, 23:23

What if youve already been banned from a guid ban? Is there anyway to get back onto pb servers.?

JohnBLucky

2nd August 2004, 23:26

GUID bans are permanent, and there's no way around them. They may unban you after so many months or a release or two of updated AAO. It's happened in the past, but don't count on it

3y3w4nn4ch34t

2nd August 2004, 23:32

What if youve already been banned from a guid ban? Is there anyway to get back onto pb servers.?
If its ONLY a Guid ban, then you can just create another account. If its a hardware ban then youll need to try one of the methods posted to get around it.

sentix

3rd August 2004, 06:13

Great Guide and very detailed, it's nice seeing fellow users finding ways to keep pb from dominating us

------------------------------------------------------------->Compliments end here>

------>Question starts here>
When you are caught with a cheat will you be given a Normal GUID Ban or a Hardware GUID Ban?
If the answer is a Normal GUID ban, when are Hardware GUID Bans given?

Cowboy[Texas]

3rd August 2004, 06:21

In general. the answer is as follows:

- Global GUID ban (player ban) will result from traditional game hacks, aimbots, etc.

- Hardware GUID ban will result from using a hack that somehow interferes or disrupts PB's normal operation (i.e. - hardware spoofers (if they can detect them), the old PBhack, etc.)

*Note: I believe this to be accurate as the amount of hardware bans has dropped significantly since PBhack died. Lately, the bans have been Global GUID bans due to gamehacks.

importdrinker

3rd August 2004, 06:23

kevinb721

3rd August 2004, 06:26

']In general. the answer is as follows:

- Global GUID ban (player ban) will result from traditional game hacks, aimbots, etc.

- Hardware GUID ban will result from using a hack that somehow interferes or disrupts PB's normal operation (i.e. - hardware spoofers (if they can detect them), the old PBhack, etc.)

*Note: I believe this to be accurate as the amount of hardware bans has dropped significantly since PBhack died. Lately, the bans have been Global GUID bans due to gamehacks.

Very informitave man, I've noticed the same thing that there hasnt been quite as many Hardware bans lately, mostly just player bans which can be revoked right? (maybe with the right knowledge and programs..?)

importdrinker

5th August 2004, 08:15

i haven't heard of any way to get around a guid ban, but u can fix the known hardware bans....

sentix

5th August 2004, 21:45

A guid ban in AA can't be get around since its computed on the AA Account information, so you need to get a new A/C to get unbanned

FrEeDoMe

6th August 2004, 20:53

I think im gonna ask here.This was in my Armyops log i think i just got banned from the server or is it a Guid/Global Ban?

ScriptLog: HC::TM() KICK NOTIFICATION: #### has been kicked for an undefined reason: YOU HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM THIS GAME SERVER VIA PUNKBUSTER ... PRIOR KICK/BAN

Cowboy[Texas]

6th August 2004, 20:57

It does not say "Global GUID Ban"... so it could be that an admin has previously banned or kicked you from a leased or unofficial server. What kind of server were you on ?

FrEeDoMe

6th August 2004, 21:03

It was a leased server.I was just remembering that i got scanned with md5 and kicked with it.Maybe it was the same server but i dont think so.
Edit:That was over a month ago

matrix165

7th August 2004, 15:34

thank for the hard work in getting these answers, this should be a sticky...

{col} damien

7th August 2004, 15:36

i was playing ok last night till now when in a server then out again
when in server and yet again out.
so i took screen shots and all the screen shots i did was all black.
i looked in ArmyOps file and theres nothing in it about why i got a ban nothing at all
this is now computer 2 down
but evey time i go in to a server it just kicks me out again
its a ban i looked in the file again and fond it KICK NOTIFICATION: has been kicked for an undefined reason: YOU HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM THIS GAME SERVER VIA PUNKBUSTER ... GLOBAL PUNKBUSTER GUID BAN 6B902B57

M@tri)x(

7th August 2004, 16:23

HwSpoofer is not work :( .... **** PB!

importdrinker

7th August 2004, 19:12

try hdprotector maybe....anyone else having probs with hwspoofer?

FroggyStyle

8th August 2004, 21:48

Cowboy[Texas]

8th August 2004, 22:03

First thing I must say sorry I am asking this ? and it may be answered already here however this thread is very long...

I keep hearing people say they cant play because of hardware ban..

I had a buddy that was hardware ban and was playiing again in about 30 mins and did not spend any $

He used smac to change mac add then used a spoofer and hardrive protector and of course new account 40 honor and all training...

My question is does this not alwalys work? And why would it work for some and not 4 others?

** Froggy..... I never heard back from you yet.... did he get unbanned ?

As fas as this always working... it all depends on the computer (how many HDDs and Network cards). This trick is too change enough info to fool PB into thinking it is a different computer. Not all info has to change.. just enough.. and "enough" means something different on each pc depending upon the configuration.

FroggyStyle

8th August 2004, 22:15

Ya he only had 1 HDD and I am pretty sure that the network card in onboard in his dell..

I just keep hearing people say they can only play in non pb servers because of hardware ban..

However for him it was no thing to get going again..
Like I said SMAC,Spoof and HD Protector and new account and he was off and playing again..

M@tri)x(

10th August 2004, 18:48

** Cowboy[Texas] ... Which one best to use of programme to loading of file. dll HwSpoofer1.0b ???? AAULoader whether EvilHack... I ask very for answer, because when I use AAULoader too every together gets ban.
Always I cancel game, I install from beginning, I change MAC of card, I create new account and to the end always before setting in motion AAO I load HwSpoofer.dll with programme AAULoader . Nothing this does not give :(
Please help!!!
p.s
Already I do not use hack,
I have only one HDD ATA100

Cowboy[Texas]

10th August 2004, 19:14

M@tri)x(
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- You said you changed you MAC address... GOOD. This is the first option for everyone to use.

- Are you familiar with your comuter bios and how to change settings ? If so, you can see if you have "SMART for harddrives" option. If you do... try to change the setting to either enable or disable (opposite of the current setting).

- Be sure completely delete ALL your hacks and hack files. Also, run cleaner.exe from your Americas Army/System folder (you may want to make a backup of armyops.ini and user.ini)

- I am not very familiar with the loaders, so I can't be alot of help with how to actually load it... but if you do load it corretly, you should get a message similar to this... "hardware spoofer is activated" .

RexFollett

25th August 2004, 17:00

what if you have two hard drives on ide and you had the game installed on your secondary.. Could you uninstall the game on it and reinstall the game on your primary slave drive then be able to play while the other drive is connected? or could you do all that and disconnect the secondary and be able to play???

Blast Pit

25th August 2004, 23:19

good question...
some say hardware ban hinges on whether u "interfere" with pb...ie pb hack....but i dunno about this...
its gonna depend on pb...wait and see what happens after next update...i would expect more hardware bans and personally i would think they'll hw ban for hacking in general.....
but like i said...wait and see...

I think if theyre smart they will leave it the way it is, ie hardware bans for interfering with pb, not for normal cheats.

If you guys want to cheat, fine by me as long as its not on pb servers. But a cheat thats designed to evade pb is a different story. IOW if you just like to play with your cheats in "cheater" (non pb) servers with your hack (because it adds a different dimention to the game or whatever), it shouldnt need any anti pb code. If it does try to evade pb, well obviously its meant to be used on pb servers and thats hardcore, and deserves hardcore methods to prevent it.

And if you must cheat on pb servers: HW bans may discourages people from coding/using a cheat that actively interferes with pb rather than a "regular" cheat that doesnt. By doing that it makes pb and server admins jobs easier as more people will use cheats that dont evade pb so that they are easier for both them and server admins (via pbss, MD5 etc) to catch.

Another side effect: given a choice of a cheat that may last longer because of ss protection but gives a (more or less) permanent hw ban across all pb games or cheat that offers no protection and has a shorter shelf life but gives only a specific game only guid ban that can be solved by making a new account or buying a new CD, which would you choose?

RexFollett

26th August 2004, 05:15

ok here we go this might work I would like to know if it does.. reffer to the pics for a visual... I know there is a manufactures serial number on the drive's and those are apart of the drive itsself there surly has to be some way to do the same changing of all serial numbers for that drive. Let me know if any of you have some added help or input on this..

Introduction
This article will demonstrate how to change the drive's serial number on three different file systems: FAT, FAT32 and NTFS. The article's source code files come with a home made DiskSector read/write class for WinNt/2k/XP and Win9x system. The article also comes with a handy dialog based application that allows you change the serial number visually.

How it works
Usually, the serial number of a drive is generated every time you format your hard drive and there is no documented way to change it afterwards.

It is worthwhile noting that the serial number returned by the "dir" command or the GetVolumeInformation() API is not the hardware serial number that comes from the manufacturer, instead this serial number is assigned and stored in the hard drive (mostly in the boot sector) by the file system and *can* be changed by software.

Knowing that the serial number is stored in the hard drive, I started looking up information about the three different file systems: FAT, FAT32, NTFS. The most relevant part to look at was the boot sector format of each of the different file systems. Usually, the bootsector holds vital data for the integrity and the operation of the file system.

Among these fields, we list this table with the fields names, file system and the corresponding offset (in hex) of the field in the boot sector:

Table 1

Field/FS FAT FAT32 NTFS
Volume Label 0x2B 0x47 ?
File system ID 0x36 0x52 0x3
Serial number 0x27 0x43 0x48

For example, we can read an entry of this table as: "In the FAT file system, the 'Serial Number' is stored at offset 0x27 starting from the boot sector origin". It is important to know that the boot sector starts at sector zero and is 512 bytes long. The next part will explain how the ChangeSerialNumber() function can be written.

Explaining the code
First, I will explain the code flow:

Open the hard drive device in order to read/write sectors.
Read the boot sector
Identify the file system of the drive in question
Modify the serial number field according to the current file system (refer to table 1)
Write back the modified boot sector
Close the hard drive device
void CVolumeSerialDlg::ChangeSerialNumber(DWORD Drive, const DWORD newSerial)
{
const max_pbsi = 3;

struct partial_boot_sector_info
{
LPSTR Fs; // file system name
DWORD FsOffs; // offset of file system name in the boot sector
DWORD SerialOffs; // offset of the serialnumber in the boot sector
};

partial_boot_sector_info pbsi[max_pbsi] =
{
{"FAT32", 0x52, 0x43},
{"FAT", 0x36, 0x27},
{"NTFS", 0x03, 0x48}
};

TCHAR szDrive[12];

char Sector[512];

DWORD i;

sprintf(szDrive, "%c:\\", Drive & 0xFF);

if (!disk.Open(szDrive))
{
ShowErrorString("Could not open disk!");
return;
}

// read sector
if (!disk.ReadSector(0, Sector))
{
ShowErrorString("Could not read sector!");
return;
}

// try to search for a valid boot sector
for (i=0;i<max_pbsi;i++)
{
if (strncmp(pbsi[i].Fs, Sector+pbsi[i].FsOffs, strlen(pbsi[i].Fs)) == 0)
{
// we found a valid signature
break;
}
}

if (i >= max_pbsi)
{
MessageBox(_T("Cannot change serial number of this file system!"),
_T("Error"), MB_ICONERROR);
return;
}

// patch serial number
*(PDWORD)(Sector+pbsi[i].SerialOffs) = newSerial;

// write boot sector
if (!disk.WriteSector(0, Sector))
{
ShowErrorString("Could not write sector!");
return;
}

ShowErrorString("Volume serial number changed successfully!\r"
"You might want to restart your system for changes to take effect!");
}

The core of this function is the 'partial_boot_sector_info/pbsi' table which is built from Table 1. This table will allow us to check what file system this boot sector belongs to and then it allows us to correctly patch the serial number field. It appears that if you change the serial number of an NTFS volume, changes won't take effect until you restart your system.

Also note that changing the partition's serial number will render some licensed programs useless, therefore write down the original serial number before attempting to changing it, just in case you wanted to restore it back.

Ok Here is the tool that will help you..

Ok once you have changed the serial of the drive you need to use the cleaner of aao to be on the safe side then change your mac address then use the spoofer "aauloader and hd spoofer" then after all that is acomplished you start the game and play.. This is in theory and may work to scramble what pb is dectecting of your info.. See they hardware ban you based on many factors if all of those are scrambled regardless of something you may not have been able to change then you will see some scrollings IN-Game of PB doing some crazy shit I have noticed it and I wasn't kicked but now the authentication and servers are down so I won't know for sure if this will work ti'll they are all back up. HOWEVER!!!!!! If this doesn't work then there might be one more alternative and that I am tearing into at the moment by taking apart a drive to find the pcb that contains the info of the serial of the manufacture.. I BELIEVE "NOT FOR SURE" I can short out the serial without damaging the disk drive but this might require some time to figure out.. Hell it might not even be anything you can short out and! if thats the case then its in the disk core and that has to be penetratable.. I haven't posted in a long time since the past few messages I have posted today and yesterday because I been busy but now I have some free time and hardware banned that I am I am trying to figure out a loop hole around hardware banning.. For me just changing the mac address or even replacing the network card doesn't work niether does the combination of that and hd spoofer.. Sooooo Ummm thats all I have to say now bye....

importdrinker

26th August 2004, 05:58

I know there is a manufactures serial number on the drive's and those are apart of the drive itsself there surly has to be some way to do the same changing of all serial numbers for that drive. Let me know if any of you have some added help or input on this..

I spent alot of time investigating the issue of hard drive serial number after my hardware ban and ill tell u what my (and others') conclusions were....

Yes, every hard drive has a Volume Serial Number which is generated at format and stored in writeable memory on your hard drive......and yes it is changeable....information for changing this serial would be very helpful but unfortuneately this is not the serial number that pb uses in its hardware ban for this very reason...

Most hard drives also have a Manufactures Serial Number...this serial is hard coded into unwriteable memory on the hard drive at the factory and is therefore unchangeable, but it is spoofable....

p.s. don't believe the hype...Hardware Bans are weak in that they are a poor deterent to anyone who is involved in cheat community.....but they are great at deterring ppl from cheating who aren't interested in cheating <----- does not compute...

hardware bans are also great at converting unlucky/noobish public cheat testers into staunch anti-pb recruits....wheres the upside in that for pb??

RexFollett

26th August 2004, 06:04

I spent alot of time investigating the issue of hard drive serial number after my hardware ban and ill tell u what my (and others') conclusions were....

Yes, every hard drive has a Volume Serial Number which is generated at format and stored in writeable memory on your hard drive......and yes it is changeable....information for changing this serial would be very helpful but unfortuneately this is not the serial number that pb uses in its hardware ban for this very reason...

Most hard drives also have a Manufactures Serial Number...this serial is hard coded into unwriteable memory on the hard drive at the factory and is therefore unchangeable, but it is spoofable....

p.s. don't believe the hype...Hardware Bans are weak.....

Well I tried spoofing it and that doesn't work.. BUT I have TWO Hard drives... which one is pb going after and if it scans both then using the spoofer DOES THAT SPOOF BOTH DRIVES???

importdrinker

26th August 2004, 06:16

Well I tried spoofing it and that doesn't work.. BUT I have TWO Hard drives... which one is pb going after and if it scans both then using the spoofer DOES THAT SPOOF BOTH DRIVES???

yeah, that sux....both ur hard drives are prolly banned in any configuration.... i dont know if any current hard drive spoofers will spoof two hard drives....
i can only suggest u try disconnecting one hard drive and running the spoofer to see if u can get around the ban that way and then work from there...
you will, most likely of course, also have to spoof ur mac address on ur banned network connection...
if it makes u feel any better it took me days of hardware testing and making new accounts (and alot of help---thanks ppl) before i got the fixes to work...i even bought a new hard drive before i got a serial spoofer to work....good luck

p.s. this thread should have all the info u need....but keep askin questions if u need to....

RexFollett

26th August 2004, 06:22

yeah, that sux....both ur hard drives are prolly banned in any configuration.... i dont know if any current hard drive spoofers will spoof two hard drives....
i can only suggest u try disconnecting one hard drive and running the spoofer to see if u can get around the ban that way and then work from there...
you will, most likely of course, also have to spoof ur mac address on ur banned network connection...
if it makes u feel any better it took me days of hardware testing and making new accounts before i got the fixes to work...i even bought a new hard drive before i got a serial spoofer to work....good luck

p.s. this thread should have all the info u need....but keep askin questions if u need to....

Well I can change my mac address without having to spoof it thats no problem.. LOL However I am about to disconnect one of my storage drives and try what ya said.. It may work and thats fine I only use the secondary for storage anyways but hell man I dunno Hopefully it works cause I really wanna play aao now I think pb has rid themselves of alot more cheaters and that makes me happy.. But another about that is I saw in a post somewhere on the forum someone said WHY CHEAT IN NON_CHEAT SERVERS? Well thats exactly what I have always wanted to know.. When there is all the cheat servers out there to play with hacks on why mess up the non-cheater servers by cheating in them?

OFCOUSE I too could be talking out my @$$ lmao

"I CHEAT CAUSE I WAS BEING CHEATED>>> DOES THAT MAKE ME A CHEATER?!!!" -

importdrinker

26th August 2004, 06:34

someone said WHY CHEAT IN NON_CHEAT SERVERS? Well thats exactly what I have always wanted to know.. When there is all the cheat servers out there to play with hacks on why mess up the non-cheater servers by cheating in them?

this is an often asked question, but mainly asked by non-cheaters, anti-cheaters, and what i will now term "chesters"..... Chester the cheater is a gamer who has tried cheats a few times to see what they are about with little or no success in an attempt to see just what advantages they really offer and to walk on the wild side a bit..... they dont really want to own, but they arent buying all the bs put out by the various anti-cheat communities....

Yes, i was once a chester....

now, as the question, u need to realize that most all of the ppl who u find at mpc are not chesters, they are public cheat users and cheat developers.... they do what they do for sport, fun, the challenge (devs), the chaos high, and to own the public at large.... that is why they want to play in pb servers and questioning their motives could offend them.....

RexFollett

26th August 2004, 06:48

this is an often asked question, but mainly asked by non-cheaters, anti-cheaters, and what i will now term "chesters"..... Chester the cheater is a gamer who has tried cheats a few times to see what they are about with little or no success in an attempt to see just what advantages they really offer and to walk on the wild side a bit..... they dont really want to own, but they arent buying all the bs put out by the various anti-cheat communities....

Yes, i was once a chester....

now, as the question, u need to realize that most all of the ppl who u find at mpc are not chesters, they are public cheat users and cheat developers.... they do what they do for sport, fun, the challenge (devs), the chaos high, and to own the public at large.... that is why they want to play in pb servers and questioning their motives could offend them.....

Yes I see where ya are coming from and I have made some cheats before and it was fun but it got old, stale and no longer is enjoyment for me.. If I offend someone anyone, well what can I say? Oppsss .. Thats not my goal. But there is a flip side to that as well.. when all they would have to do to see if they work is create with all their time and energy they have available as resource a CHEAT SERVER with PB updated and enabled on it for their personal uses... BACK on the subject I am starting to get into this hardware banning stuff it intrests me and to say I found a way around hardware bans THAT WORK well I suppose I am cheating the system of pb once again just in a different way.. I highly doubt a CHEAT PROGRAMMER or anyone will be offended by me speaking my personal oppinion on the whole AAO gaming atmosphere..

importdrinker

26th August 2004, 07:14

Yes I see where ya are coming from

opinions vary.....and certainly u and everyone else are entitled to theirs....some cheaters view leased servers as "off limits" for various reasons....
anyone playing any online multiplayer game should realize that cheating is a part of the game, regardless of how u view it, and public servers are the best place to harvest souls...

remember...ppl congregating in glass houses should watch out for falling shards....

srry for babbling off topic....rex, its always an interesting debate, but were getting off topic and i dont want to clutter the thread anymore so i wont....peace...

RexFollett

26th August 2004, 07:27

srry for babbling off topic....rex, its always an interesting debate, but were getting off topic and i dont want to clutter the thread anymore so i wont....peace...

LOL ok man....Yeah to each their own.. and to be back on the subject I have reviewed this whole thread and there is no info on this forum about spoofing two hard drives at the same time or if the hd spoofer provided by those dedicated developers out there "Thanks guys" will spoof both drives.. Also if someone familiar with PB and their methods of hardware banning could tell me for sure if they look over both drives on your computer and when banning you ban both of them at the same time? Also I would like to know if I may update the spoofer maybe make it where two drives are spoofed if you have two?

importdrinker

26th August 2004, 07:34

Spoofing Multiple Hard Drive Serials?????? Is this possible???? Anyone????

from what i know, the hard drive serial spoofers only spoof the boot drives serial, and pb does ban the serials of both hard drives if u have two installed at time of ban.....
and pb scans all hard drives on ur pc to see any are banned....

Blast Pit

28th August 2004, 14:59

p.s. don't believe the hype...Hardware Bans are weak in that they are a poor deterent to anyone who is involved in cheat community.....but they are great at deterring ppl from cheating who aren't interested in cheating <----- does not compute...

HW bans may not affect the hardcore cheaters, they will cheat at all costs. But if it scares the casual, or curious cheater wannabe from trying a cheat, well its served a purpose.

hardware bans are also great at converting unlucky/noobish public cheat testers into staunch anti-pb recruits....wheres the upside in that for pb??

That is amusing (at least to me), if you are hw banned there is no second chance to go legit (aside from spending bucks on new hardware). And to play on pb servers after a hw ban without new hardware you are forced to use cheat programs that will hw ban you again.. ie spoofers or packet filters. Sorta forces you to be a cheater for the life of your hardware.

xtreme000

29th August 2004, 15:24

OKE.

Yesterday I format my C:, before that, I'm Hardware banned, and can get around it with HW SPOOFER.

Then I Installed AAO 2.1, Spoofed my Hardware with HARDWARE SPOOFER
used devmode ONLY and the first times, I get kicked for:

PB ERROR Shiit, you know, I didnt have the latest PB-update/PBWEB.

So me pressed windowsbar-key, update my PB.
Log in a Server, after few seconds, Me get kicked by HW BAN !! :confused:

Then I close AA, Open it again, use my devmode ( RENAMED), spoofed it.
Join server, and get kicked again for HW BAN :teeth: :teeth:

ScriptLog: Failed opening for read save\***MYNAME***.txt

ScriptLog: HC::TM() KICK NOTIFICATION: ***MYNAME*** has been kicked for an undefined reason: YOU HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM THIS GAME SERVER VIA PUNKBUSTER ... GLOBAL PUNKBUSTER HARDWARE BAN ********
ScriptLog: HC::TM() ok
Log: PunkBuster Client: Removing ***MYNAME***(GLOBAL PunkBuster HARDWARE BAN ********)

Can anyone help me ?!!?
I tried usin MAC but there is nothing in my "NEW SPOOFED MAC ADRES"

PLEASE HELP ME, I dont know why, before I format my PC I can get around HW BAN by using HWSPOOFER, but after formatting PC it isnt able anymore !?!

HELP ME GUYS, This is really ****ed up !

EDIT-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now me get kicked for HW ban, BUT it doesnt show my GUID ?? even when the account isnt GUID BANNED only HW BANNED:

.. GLOBAL PUNKBUSTER HARDWARE BAN =?

What does that "?" means ??

importdrinker

29th August 2004, 20:33

Unless u changed something in your hardware profile, or there has been a change in HardWare bans, or u were hardware banned by pb in a different game than AA, i would assume that u need to do the same thing to get around your hardware ban that u did before ur format....

This would be:
1. Spoof your network connection mac address using smac 1.2 (or 1.1).
2. Use a harddrive serial spoofer such as HWspoofer dll or hdprotector.

It sounds like the problem is u need to spoof ur mac adress. If u haven't already i suggest u reread the beginning of this thread and make sure you're not missing something.....

Keep working and posting ur results and i'm willing to bet u can bypass your HardWare ban again....

-={XRD}=-CRAZY

29th August 2004, 23:20

Hey im new to this site. Anyone gimme some help w/an honor hack? I created second account and im being labeled a "hacker" simply because pure ownage. I have never used hacks before, but need something to raise honor faster.

ty

gil

29th August 2004, 23:26

simply get some points.
you shouldnt post off-topic.

start a new thread if you like.

cdnsgtpeacekeep

31st August 2004, 07:28

nvm I found it. the links to it in the mpcdownload site in the AAO folder don't work because the file isn't there but i found it on another site linked from this one.

Cowboy[Texas]

8th September 2004, 01:42

super_honour

13th September 2004, 18:04

What's the price of a cheap raid controller?

importdrinker

13th September 2004, 18:14

What's the price of a cheap raid controller?

$80 new from best buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1082119777815&skuId=6620178&type=product

$9 and up from ebay:
http://search.ebay.com/raid-controller_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8

p.s. google is free...

Cowboy[Texas]

13th September 2004, 18:17

The main brands are Promise and HighPoint and those are often bundled or included on motherboards. Their stand alone controllers usually run $100 - 200 usd. However, I did a internet search and found some other brands for as little as $50.

super_honour

13th September 2004, 20:35

what are those other brands for 50$

edit btw is there any program that prevents pb from scaning your hardware?

1 more question how mouch $ are motherbords with raid controlers
and if I was hardware banned and buy a raid C. will pb detect my serial number

importdrinker

13th September 2004, 20:46

what are those other brands for 50$

edit btw is there any program that prevents pb from scaning your hardware?

OK.... did u even read this thread?? Maybe it would be easiest if u just give me ur credit card # and ill buy the gd nic card for u..... if ur still confused go here:

Training Video (http://www.trials-shack.co.uk/posting.html)

p.s. learn when to post and when to private message....oh yeah, u ever heard of
GOOGLE!?!?!

super_honour

13th September 2004, 20:52

well I want to be sure about paying 200$ if It doesn't suits u than don't read my posts

importdrinker

13th September 2004, 20:59

well I want to be sure about paying 200$ if It doesn't suits u than don't read my posts

well good luck then buddy..... rock on with ur bad self...

Shart0n

17th September 2004, 02:29

Can someone please help me with this god damn thing All these programs arnt helping me to much stuff Any easy easy way to do it?

hidddenpookie

18th September 2004, 21:34

anyone know if eleethals hw spoofer still work?

barry_white

18th September 2004, 22:36

anyone know if eleethals hw spoofer still work?

5 minutes ago, you were with him on irc. Ask him? ;)

hidddenpookie

19th September 2004, 07:03

5 minutes ago, you were with him on irc. Ask him? ;)
Lmao good one.

MeintooL

23rd September 2004, 09:30

hey guys ..can someone please tell me how to get to BIOS on my comp? i have been there before but i forgot what button to press to get there at startup if someone could help me id appreciate it

also one other question...i tried the hardware spooker and it loaded correctlybut im still hardware banned...so im wondering if i have to set the DLL to 2k compatability but when i rightclick on the file it has no option for 2k compatability am i doing something wrong?...can someone help me please ive been banned for like 6 months and i need some AA

Loucifer

23rd September 2004, 16:32

The delete key at posting before windows starts

Cowboy[Texas]

23rd September 2004, 19:09

Try hitting DELETE, F2 or F4 (depends on the bios and pc type). Like loucifer said above.... do it right after or during the POST (which is all the stuff you start seeing when you first turn it on). You will probably have to keep hitting both keys over and over to make sure you do it at the right time. If it boots to Windows then you are either hitting the wrong keys or not hitting them soon enough.

Cheaterz1980

25th September 2004, 08:55

Hi everyone,
This is my first post here, and like most of the ppl visiting this site i am a noob. First of all thanks a lot to all you coding geeks for coming out with such amazing stuff. I have a few questions and i would be grateful if you guys would answer them.

1) I understand the difference between GUID ban and Hardware ban, but can anyone tell me what probably leads to GUID ban and what leads to Hardware ban ?. Since hardware ban sounds pretty tough one for noob like me to defend, i would like to take less chances on doing things that can surely lead to HARDWARE BAN.

2) From what i understood is, those hax that are undetected right now, might get detected when pb gives a new version release. So if that is correct, is there a way we can get some kind of alert of the update in pb version ?

3) I am not sure whether there is something called news alert letter in this forum. But it would be great if the admin can send everyone on the group an alert stating that new version of pb has come out and to stop using hax for some time untill you computer geeks can actualy determine how many hax gets detected by the new version and how many dosnt. And finally an email giving a list of undetected hax by the latest pb version.

2) AND 3) are just a suggestion if they are not implemented yet. Alright then i dont wanna waste more of your time and delay the release of next version of cool hax.

Thanks,
Chris :-)

KrIz

8th October 2004, 16:44

if i'll format my disc c i'll still be banned from cdc\twl?

gil

8th October 2004, 16:59

if i'll format my disc c i'll still be banned from cdc\twl?

Read this : http://www.mpcforum.com/showthread.php?t=55485

KrIz

8th October 2004, 21:41

man that thread dont work now!!!
it seems they are ban something else
coz i did all that he sad and i still banned

112233

10th October 2004, 04:43

ok so leme get this straight i have a 63 honro acount and a 7 honor acount ok now i hacked on my pueter with my 7 hnor acount nothign can happen to my 63 honor acount? or say if i hacked on my other computer but its on the same network as this one is and say will it ip ban be on this one?

Cowboy[Texas]

11th October 2004, 17:48

You will not get IP banned... PB does not IP ban... but you could get hardware banned. It depends on what type of hack you use.

If you just use normal aimbots, etc... if caught, then you will probably just get the player account banned (whichever player you are using at the time).

ichich

12th October 2004, 16:47

hi
im too busy too read all the stuff before but can u PLEASE tell me how i can unban my hw??? im hw banned and i tried smac hdprotector and hwspoofer andsoon
but im still banned!!! what can i do for unbanning??? i read many threads but no1 helped me!!!

i now this forums/boards r very good and many persons help no0bs like me so
thx guys for the future

^^ help me!!!

cdnsgtpeacekeep

14th October 2004, 00:26

Hey, what's up everyone? Just posting this to let you all know that Using the hwspoofer.Dll spoofer for the harddrive doesn't seem to work anymore. I've been HW banned and I've been using the .Dll to spoof the HS with stealth injector off ummm can't remember the guys site name but anyways, I've been using that and i've spoofed the MAC addy of the network card. I re-spoofed the network card to a different mac and i'm still HW banned so it looks like that HWSpoofer.DLL isn't working for me.
Peace.

**EDIT**

It's working fine now, well has been for 20 minutes with same MAC as I was kicked with.
Anyways, all i use is DEVMOD. So they HDBanned me using only that Never had anything else used with this account.
peace

112233

16th October 2004, 04:36

thank you cowboy ure the best

KrIz

21st October 2004, 14:58

lol today i got guid ban!!!!
for all pb servers
that mean that my 82 honor account GONE
if no how can i fix it??? :bored:

noob-cheater

21st October 2004, 15:34

lol today i got guid ban!!!!
for all pb servers
that mean that my 82 honor account GONE
if no how can i fix it??? :bored:

You can't fix guid bann's, just make a new accound!

KrIz

21st October 2004, 15:49

ohh
i have my second 4 honor account
but same sh!t

Cowboy[Texas]

22nd October 2004, 18:03

lol today i got guid ban!!!!
for all pb servers
that mean that my 82 honor account GONE
if no how can i fix it??? :bored:

COOL..... I've never met anyone actually "DENSE" enough
to risk an 82 honor account with a hack. If you got
a global GUID ban then - Yes, your account is history.

TheSidewinder

22nd October 2004, 20:25

LOL@ Cowboy. Uhhh... I used a 50-something a few days ago. And it got nicked yesterday (GUID). Oops. Well, I'll let that one sit for 6 months to a year and see if it's still gone.

And in the meantime, I'll just make new accounts and go irritate the AC's.....

Shuva

22nd October 2004, 21:19

']COOL..... I've never met anyone actually "DENSE" enough
to risk an 82 honor account with a hack. If you got
a global GUID ban then - Yes, your account is history.

The "DENSITY" comes from players who just don't give a mutha-fuc about honor and just play for the hell of it.

Hello, how are you doing? Nice to meet you.

CAUGHTCHEATING

24th October 2004, 12:19

:( HELP COWBOY!!!!!!!! or ANYONE

No Label

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: GenuineIntel Unknown processor @ 2995 MHz with 1022MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (5672)

General protection fault!

History: UGameEngine::Init <- InitEngine

I JUST STARTED CHEATING WHEN 2.2 CAME OUT. SORRY I DID. :( AM I SCREWED ? HARDWARE BAN ? WHAT DO I DO NEXT ?

I REINSTALLED aa FROM SCRATCH AND IT STILL GIVES THIS CRITICAL ERROR.

shock

24th October 2004, 20:50

Critical Error is NOT a hardware ban, when you are hardware banned you will get kicked out of the game. You should ask this in the REAL AA forums, and don't tell them you are cheating/have cheated (if it only does this when you are cheating then just completly ignore this post)

Apescope

24th October 2004, 21:54

aye, if PB GUID bans my account that i used hacks with, will the ban effect my other clean accounts or will they just ban the hack account?
Also, if i have clean and hack accounts under the same email addy, will they ban the clean ones too.. If busted.. ?

Tolik

25th October 2004, 06:20

I have a question, do you recommend using the hacks from undetected list that are somewhat "old" and might be detected, silent banning?
Also, with EH 2.1 unofficial you can only get GUID ban or HW? If GUID then another question, what if I use my cheating account with a name as in my non cheating, and then just switch accounts, if they do silent banning is there a chance of them to ban my legit account? Thx

Cowboy[Texas]

25th October 2004, 20:12

@ Apescope and Tolik...

If you get a Global GUID ban on a player / account..... it will NOT affect any other accounts. PB does not search for other accounts or compare emails, etc. Your accounts are only banned when you are caught cheating with them. Currently, the only time you will get a hardware GUID ban is for using a hack that "interferes with the normal operation of PB". This would include things like hardware spoofers or other hacks that try to block or alter the info that PB collects.

As far as what hacks to use.... I have no idea. I have not played AA in about 3 months and Im not up to date on which of the new hacks work best or even how to use them. I would say that the newer hacks are usually better for the simple reason that PB has probably not analyzed them and will probably not detect them as fast. However, ALWAYS try out new hacks with a test account.... because most hacks are just re-written versions of existing hack code.... therefore they may often be detected based on the older code and hooking method.

@ CAUGHTCHEATING....

:
No Label

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: GenuineIntel Unknown processor @ 2995 MHz with 1022MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (5672)

General protection fault!
History: UGameEngine::Init <- InitEngine

I JUST STARTED CHEATING WHEN 2.2 CAME OUT. SORRY I DID. :( AM I SCREWED ?
HARDWARE BAN ? WHAT DO I DO NEXT ?

I REINSTALLED aa FROM SCRATCH AND IT STILL GIVES THIS CRITICAL ERROR.

1) First... go to Nvidia and make sure you have the most recent driver update. It would be good if you did this for all your hardware.

2) Also you can try to run DXDIAG....

- How to start DXDIAG

Click on Start.
Click on Run.
Type in “dxdiag” and press Enter.

How to interpret DXDIAG.
The System tab tells you all your basic information about your PC.

The Display tab provides more information on your video card.
This tab also has 2 tests that you should run to make sure Direct3D
is working properly. These 2 tests take maybe between 5-10 minutes
at the max. There are also 3 check boxes:
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
All 3 should be enabled with the only exception being -
if you have a PCI video card you will not have the last of the
3 boxed enabled (AGP Status).

The Files tab will tell you if there are needed files that are MISSING.
If they are missing then Direct3D will not work properly and can lead to GPF's.

!~OmerAmaN~!

26th October 2004, 20:54

my friend has Global GUID ban
if he will change his nick/pass/e-mail the ban will remove?

JohnBLucky

26th October 2004, 20:57

Nope, no way around a GUID Ban. Just make a new character, rename the old character, and name the new character the same thing. That's about as close as you'll get, but some GUID bans are removed after so long, so you might try after some AAO updates.

!~OmerAmaN~!

26th October 2004, 20:59

but he used HAOM 1 time in an official server..
i used with my test server like 4 times in official servers and got GUID bans but not global..
what the hack?

gil

26th October 2004, 21:19

GUID ban = permanent ban.

you cant remove guid bans. no matter what you used and for how long.
at the moment you get kicked with "GUID banned" reason, you need a new account.

Cowboy[Texas]

26th October 2004, 23:33

but he used HAOM 1 time in an official server..
i used with my test server like 4 times in official servers and got GUID bans but not global..
what the hack?

The correct term according to PB is "GLOBAL GUID BAN"... which, as stated by JBL and GIL, means that your character is dead, history, adiaos, ba-bye, etc.

There are only two kinds of bans:
1) Global GUID ban (character / account ban)
2) Hardware GUID ban (a ban which restricts your pc from accessing any PB enabled servers / games).

Douche

28th October 2004, 03:34

if you are GUID Banned, and there is a ban # that replaces your in-game GUID, then wouldnt you be able to replace the ban # with the GUID all over again? if PB is only using the armyops.ini file to judge if your banned or not?

unrealdude24

28th October 2004, 05:44

Just a question. My router has different MAC addresses so i was wondering will PB ban my routers MAC adress or my pc's? Will I have to change both of them?

Cowboy[Texas]

28th October 2004, 08:48

Just a question. My router has different MAC addresses so i was wondering will PB ban my routers MAC adress or my pc's? Will I have to change both of them?

It will be your pc's becuase PB bypasses your router through the open AA port.
However, its not jsut reading your network card MAC... PB is also gathering other info such as:

MAC address for ALL network cards,
harddrive serials
SMART info for your harddirves (if SMART is enabled in your bios)

This combined info is created into a hash that identifies your pc. If enough of the above hardware info is changed... PB will create a new hash (which will eliminate a hardware ban).

ichich

28th October 2004, 15:09

ALL network cards??? in my computer or in my network???
should i spoof all mac adresses in my network???

OneManArmy1st

28th October 2004, 16:48

GUID ban = permanent ban.

you cant remove guid bans. no matter what you used and for how long.
at the moment you get kicked with "GUID banned" reason, you need a new account.

as for why GUID ban = permanent ban , not corect tho , cuz PB is cleaning now and then in GUID ban list, then one account which was banned like 4m ago now it isnt banned, I tested and its right, one of my 50 H account was banned for 7 m ago,and now its all fine again, they cleaning in the saved guid lists, it is even saying in punkbuster own pages that they might renew the ban list now and then.....just wanted to let you all know

ichich

28th October 2004, 16:58

thx for the info oneman

Turbo

30th October 2004, 15:39

i have guid hardware ban:( how to eliminate it?plz help

Apescope

30th October 2004, 15:59

Thanks Mr. Cowboy for the info.
LoL. Wonder why the AC's still say "hooah PB"
Even if they ban few dudes, they are still pretty worthless :bunny:

Cowboy[Texas]

30th October 2004, 21:37

i have guid hardware ban:( how to eliminate it?plz help

Take a few minutes to read the very first post in this thread.

Crash_Override

31st October 2004, 12:32

hey!!! i have small problem i dont know but can we help me
i using aaom and today i play and this hapend "Punkbukster Client removing *name* (0 minutes) RESTRICTION invalid d3d8.dll reference" what i do??

nightmare

31st October 2004, 16:34

use another hack that doesnt use the d38d method(e.g dawgster 1.7,twilight alfa etc)

turbovlieg5688

1st November 2004, 22:38

in the readme of hwspoofer i've found:
you need a dll loader to run the dll (you can use evilhack loader)

now my problem is: i don't know what it means and don't know what to do :tired:

!~OmerAmaN~!

2nd November 2004, 14:41

Used: ShrkMode 1.8
KICK NOTIFICATION: **** has been kicked for an undefined reason: YOU HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM THIS GAME SERVER VIA PUNKBUSTER ... GLOBAL PUNKBUSTER GUID BAN 2C171793

OneManArmy1st2u

3rd November 2004, 19:26

Just find out from a friend that the ban all was silent bans, tho all EH mode hacks are detected, all hacks changes any aao orig files are detected too..... he couldnt post his ban ,as he isnt member here YET!

As I understood, he was runing AAOM 2.2 Plus LionHack with HW-spoofer- and so on.... yet he got his 39 h account banned ,lol

Told him to use new account these days.....how ever

PS

Just a special extra NOTE in here -IF you lost ur account, and if you dont have time making new account, contact me with prvt message and I will give you a new ACCOUNT, all trainings done thanks to " FlagTag " and

Now u can run thru us weapons training in a couple of seconds thanks to fly610!!!

TCF 1701 has the following features:

*Faast Training
*TopSpeed Tech (ups to fly610)
*CrackShot
*SpeedLoader
*Post Bail
*INI Manager
*Misc useful buttons: Run Cleaner, Run AA (with or without TST), Open AA Folder, Open SL Folder, Open armyops.log

http://www.mpcforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3580

download the progy and make ur own new accounts, and or get new account from me ..............

Thread for fast training is here

http://www.mpcforum.com/showthread.php?t=62577

Good work guys, and lets each and everyone take some part doing some help here too, as we all need to get back in the war....

OneManArmy1st2u

3rd November 2004, 22:42

Can anyone tell me why in account manager showing like this?

I have never seen this befor tho........

WARNING
Your user account has been banned. If you feel your account has been banned in error, contact America's Army support.

added a jpg of it too as ss

nightmare

3rd November 2004, 22:57

they did that in the past(nowadays its all pb banning),it means uve been manualy banned and thus not by punkbuster.

OneManArmy1st

6th November 2004, 20:47

all the download links-url are outdated,or mixed up, or wrong, donno which but it gives erro not found blah blah.......

otherwise this is one of best thread if you need help with ur guid banned pc,or just to make sure u dont get banned.....just keep in mind play it safe.

cyberlord

11th November 2004, 20:28

i'm playing behind a router, can pb ban my routers mac adress? :S cuz if that ever happens, i'm toast :S

Cowboy[Texas]

11th November 2004, 20:35

i'm playing behind a router, can pb ban my routers mac adress? :S cuz if that ever happens, i'm toast :S

PB won't ban or use the router info, it uses the info from your pc...

- MAC addresses of network card(s)
- Serial no of hard drives(s)
- SMART info for hard drives (if SMART is enabled in the bios)

So you "could" still be toast if you get hardware banned O.O

cyberlord

11th November 2004, 20:36

i allready changed my mac adress to be sure :p and i'm using the hw spoofer dll, and no i'm not hw banned (yet)

ichich

27th November 2004, 13:30

Cowboy[Texas]

27th November 2004, 17:43

hi
i bought me a new motherboard/mainboard with a networkcard in there (GB lan)
am i unbanned if i use the new mainboard??? if i use it with my hd (i didnt have smart on) is the new networkcard banned too???? or can i play again??? i didnt played aasf since 4+months!!! i go KrAzY if i ban my new mainboard with the old hd!!!
plz tell me wether i can play after i use the new thing!!!
cya and thx

You mainboard has nothing to do with the ban.... so it wont help unban you either.... you will still be banned. EXCEPT it sounds like you are saying that your mainboard includes an on-board network adapter. If so, the new network adapter will be one part of becoming unbanned.

Along with your new network adaptor, you should now try turning SMART for Harddrive to "ENABLE" (if it was previously disabbled). These two things may be enough to unban you. If not, the only thing reamining that is causing the ban is your harddrive.

- Good luck :laugh:

O'Neill

28th November 2004, 20:30

Ok, question time #<randomly high number>

My BIOS doesnt have SMART, so nothing I can do there

At the time of the ban, 3HDs were connected
Ive moved HD#1 (OS drive) from Prim Master to 2nd Slave
Ive removed HD#2 (which I run games from) and got a new one in there
And HD#3 (Storage) remains where it is

Now, as for the MAC

I cant remember what I was using when the ban happened (I was banned a few weeks after the HW bans came about IIRC)
But I have 2 NIC cards and an onboard LAN, which Im sure that was what I was using
Atm, my onboard is disabled in BIOS and Im using one of my NIC cards

Now, as an added note, Im not playing AA (which is where I got HW banned), but Im playing RVS
Im still getting booted from servers

Any other thoughts (HDSpoofer dont help, and the other HD thing doesnt do crap anyway)

PS. I wont remove HD#1 cos Im not gonna loose a 160GB hard-drive for the sake of gaming

Cowboy[Texas]

29th November 2004, 03:28

Im not sure how the ban in other games... they may use the CD key as well.

However, in AA, I would suggest you try removing some of those NIC's and then also run SMAC to spoof the MAC address of your remaining NIC. I think you would have a good chance of getting unbanned since you removed one HDD and then also remove 1 or 2 NIC's.. and spoof the last one. That amounts to a pretty good amount of hardware changes.

O'Neill

29th November 2004, 06:10

It wont use the cd-key for HWID simply because its a hash your machine has over every single game

The nic cards werent on there before, Ive since put one on, Im gonna put the other one on to, see if that does anything

Edit: Well, now Ive removed HD#3 and moved HD#1 over to the Prim Slave
I also put in the other NIC card

And you guessed it, didnt work

So simply put its now my 160GB HD Ive got to remove, which in turn also means I have to install XP onto my new HD - which I will most likely do later

Will update you when I get around to sorting this out

Halal

30th November 2004, 16:26

KICK NOTIFICATION: ******* has been kicked for an undefined reason: YOU HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM THIS GAME SERVER VIA PUNKBUSTER ... GLOBAL PUNKBUSTER GUID BAN *********
this is a global acc ban?
thats my 82 honor user, i need that!

Cowboy[Texas]

30th November 2004, 16:30

Yes... that is just a simple GUID ban (account ban). Just make another account and you can start again.

Halal

30th November 2004, 16:34

']Yes... that is just a simple GUID ban (account ban). Just make another account and you can start again.
I cant change the banned users name...
Accept me in msn messenger, my mail is kadam...

O'Neill

30th November 2004, 17:08

Halal...
] Yes... that is just a simple GUID ban (account ban). Just make another account and you can start again.

Not change the name :rolleyes:

Ahem anyway

I did what I said I would, and it worked
While it simply means that whenever I want to play a PB game I will have to shut down and remove the power cable out of the back of 160GB HD, I can play.
And as I use a tower, in which the casing is open and I dont have to stretch my arm more than 3/4 of a meter to do it, no bother at all for me

Also I would like to take this oppotunity (sp?) to thank Evenbalance, as due to them banning me, allowed me to get a 40GB Hard-drive for sod-all :rambo: :bunny:

Galaad

30th November 2004, 20:08

I cant change the banned users name...
Accept me in msn messenger, my mail is kadam...

Halal, read Cowboy guide: there is nothing to do for your account (or leave it there: it seems that somebody, after some months, got it back, still available).

But for now forget it. Sorry. :cry:

ThePattonOfOne

3rd December 2004, 01:17

Tis a good thread :) Helped me out a bit!

mic1989

4th December 2004, 16:58

:)
good info!

Krazyman0_o

4th December 2004, 23:39

what if i have a dell, no add on hardrive pieces to my knowledge and i got hardwared...what can i use to get out of that if at all possible? i check the spoofer thing but it just didn't work, i don't understand the loader bit. :ermm:

Woojoo

21st December 2004, 17:59

God..
Just bought this 120 gb hd and i get a Hardware bann lmfao..

hokki

22nd December 2004, 09:48

Cowboy, i am pb banned one ET server using multihack. I have Adsl connection, so, can i change my 'real' ip enyway?

Edit: Ups, wrong section...

Cowboy[Texas]