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±§©ØRÞÌØÑ±
19th June 2005, 05:33
I was wondering, which would I use to make hacks. u. hacking is good, but it's detected. And I don't even know how to write uscript, or c++ for that matter. I need to know which would be better to learn. I'd rather not waste time learning uscript when it's detected. And for all the morons asking for Demo hacks like silencer32, go away. Learn to make you own hacks like me. Any help would be much appreciated.

(8)Hollowman
19th June 2005, 05:52
I was wondering why some of the D3D hacks work with the demo while others don't. I know D3D files are made from .U files, and that confuses me because you cannot compile .U files with the demo ucc.exe becasue the ucc make function does not exist. If anyone could please answer this question it would be much appreciated.

DyslexicCheater
19th June 2005, 09:25
And for all the morons asking for Demo hacks like silencer32, go away. Learn to make you own hacks like me.

Ironic that you are asking for help, yet you use yourself as an example of the pinacle of human achievement.

I was wondering why some of the D3D hacks work with the demo while others don't. I know D3D files are made from .U files, and that confuses me because you cannot compile .U files with the demo ucc.exe becasue the ucc make function does not exist. If anyone could please answer this question it would be much appreciated.

"D3D files" do not exist, there is no such thing as a "D3D file". There are however, hacks created by utilizing Microsoft's Direct 3D technology. They are most commonly found in the form of Dynamically Linked Libraries (*.DLL Files). These hacks however, are in no way shape or form even remotely related to Unreal Script Binaries (*.U Files).

Heres the way it is. Unreal Scripting is a waste of time. Period.

RuffianSoldier
19th June 2005, 12:40
Dyslexic stop posting your .u script propoganda.....

I agree with you on many things - but I disagree the .u script is a waste of time......

It really depends on the person.

If you just want to hack RvS - learn quickly - and do all kinds of "uber 1337" stuff than it would be good.

But if you want to become a programmer - hack maker for all games - etc.... then C++ would be the way to go.

Personally I couldnt stand learning C++ because of how boring it was...... so I decided to hack RvS from the source; Unreal Scripting.


Anyway, Scorpion - the best and fasted way of getting knoledge of how to learn C++ is to go to www.google.com and type in search "C++".



Its really not that hard to get .u's undetected - and its fun to come up with new ideas on how to do it!

±§©ØRÞÌØÑ±
19th June 2005, 17:53
Thanks. But, does anyone know if there is a way to make a .u hack work with the demo? If so let me know.

KizZamP-
19th June 2005, 21:09
for the experience i have,there is no way to make .u for demo because it would need by example r6weapons.dll or r6weapons.u and that r6weapons.u isn't complete in the demo ,i think that's why.
only tormentium loader i think

±§©ØRÞÌØÑ±
20th June 2005, 01:00
RuffianSoldier and Killybud are cool. DyslexicCheater should go away :)

RuffianSoldier
20th June 2005, 01:02
Ty for thinking im cool Scorpion - but I really appreciate DyslexicCheater because he is an uber leet coder and he knows his stuff.

If he decided to "go away" MPC wouldnt be as useful as it is..........

DotProduct
20th June 2005, 03:55
RuffianSoldier and Killybud are cool. DyslexicCheater should go away :)

lol you say that now.... but when u know enough to understand what hes talking about u respect the fact that he helps.

also about d3d hacks... i think all d3d hacks from ravenshield work with the demo... but stuff like wallhack and skinhack wont work due to the fact that the crc's (textures aplied to certain models) change. stuff like recoil and retlock i doubt will work as well the y work through memory adresses which change aswell. sooo...

i suggest whoever wants to code should most probably start with unreal script its way easy to learn and it covers the basics of most coding languages(mostly c++ and java).

as for compiling for the demo it might not be impossible just check in the editor.int to see if there is a [makecommandlet] that will allow it to compile.

DyslexicCheater
20th June 2005, 05:46
RuffianSoldier and Killybud are cool. DyslexicCheater should go away :)

Excuse me, you asked a question, and I answered it. Remind me to never help you again, ****.

Dyslexic stop posting your .u script propoganda.....

A question was asked, and I answered it truthfully. And to be honest I don't really care who agrees with me. I don't particularly concern myself with putting lots of effort into making unappreciative people smarter. Not to mention I pride myself in not stating my opinion, but fact instead.

As long as questions are asked concerning whether UScript is worth someone's time or not, I will continue to post my opinion in an answer like I have been doing until someone sees fit to ban me.

Doing things the lazy way will only encourage doing things the lazy way later on down the road. It's best to get into the habit of doing things the right way while you are learning, that way you don't have to go through the difficult process of doing everything over again when you get out of your phase of blatant ignorance.

RuffianSoldier
20th June 2005, 06:02
Well Dyslexic - I would like to say (I have a few times) that I have nothing againts you and I appreciate and respect what you have to say - I just disagree with you on .u scripting.

If you can say .u script is nonsense I can say thats just propoganda... we all have our oppinions - lets forget about it, because this is a cheat forums not a flame forum......

(8)Hollowman
20th June 2005, 12:00
Dyslexic although I do not understand some, well most of what you have to say about coding, I was mislead by someone who told me .DLL files were .U compiled into that. Very sorry for the mistake. Try and be a little nicer, and you'll live longer. Anyways, I tried reading your tutorial on packet hacking, but the other pages/sites would not load for me =(. I respect your opinions fully, you sound like you know a hell of a lot of information abotu coding. Thanks for sharing.

KizZamP-
20th June 2005, 18:41
The things that dyslexicheater says is like dyslexic for the people that can only make a simple program with c++ like the "hello world" project.So all the things that he types here are for guys/girlz( :laugh: ) that understand the memory hooking and stuff like that.So that means the thing that he replys to some1 after a question are mostly dyslexic c++ codes.But at first,think in urself.Would you,if you are a really good c++ programmer,explain something to some1 that is not that good in it?It doesn't mean i'm like that,thought i like helping people.
It's just for the selfish people out there on mpc and others that are being like a piece of shit against dyslexiccheater.
peace.(lol wtf that was a long post O.O )

SiLvErTaR
20th June 2005, 23:26
Nah i think you all take DC the wrong way. I mean i for one sometimes get a lil annoyed at his answers to questions you may ask him. But then when you look back at it he doesnt give you the answer because he wants you to find out for yourself. A lot of people like me when we hit these forums we are expecting a quick fix to our answer and when we get a road map that shows the start position and ending position but nothing in between but a few road signs and landmarks we are like WTF!!! After being on this site for a few ive learned to get to where i need to go i will need to learn coding. I know that it will take sometime learning C++ but im positive ill enjoy finding my way on my own and look back at it with a lot more satisfaction. So all in all DONT look at his preachings or "Propaganda" as someone put it like its a bad thing, look at it as Constructive Critisism.

jewbie
21st June 2005, 00:04
hmm...well let me just state this..and its my opinion....dyslexic is one the most advanced coders you have on this site...period...his knowledge does not boundary himself within the coding of cheats as are in some cases if not most ..what a lot of people on here do. he suggests to not learn uscript but to learn c++ instead...because for one...if you knew c++ uscript would be childs play. but also he is giving you more of a tip than you know. he is trying to prevent you from having to basically relearn everytime you want to do some coding...i made the mistake a long long time ago...over 7 years ago actually ...to start programming in visual basic..to this day i kick myself in the ass for not learning c++ instead or at least first....but oh well...what can ya do....

-J

Damage Inc.
21st June 2005, 09:36
if you knew c++ uscript would be childs play
u are most definitely right about that...uscript is basically a "watered down version of c++"
and as for .u files being detected theres always a way to get one to work

KizZamP-
21st June 2005, 13:59
Damage and jewbie are right because like:
1)try learning .u script and then see how long it took.
2)try writing c++ and then see how long it took...

i think (sarcastic) c++ is a bit(sarcastic too lol) complicater than .u script.
And like,if you wanna get known by people,
Try to tell some1 "i can code .u script,i can make programs(what won't work of course)"
and i'll think they will tell you to f*** off.
But try telling some1 that you can code c++.And they'll have respect.
P.S: forgot one thing.There are a few people that get respect by coding .u .
By example andrew(dtp)

.TriCycle.
22nd June 2005, 05:27
well its hard learning c++...very hard...i dispise U scripting....but i really would love to learn how to make a detected .u ... undetected...it would kick major a$$

RuffianSoldier
22nd June 2005, 08:56
Ya it would - if only Dutchamp would tell me his hooking method XD

Anyway look through some .inis and try to find something to extend....

DyslexicCheater
22nd June 2005, 09:13
You know, C++ really is not all that hard ;/

DotProduct
22nd June 2005, 23:58
DC honestly i found c++ a lil abusive... coding me black screen a while ago... i had just forgot to add a ";" and i ended up with like 50 errors... that shit aint no joke...

DyslexicCheater
23rd June 2005, 08:59
So it's strict, big deal. It isn't that hard to learn, and you get used to debugging quickly. Programming in C++ is like making wishes with a genie. You must be extremely specific but when done properly will never go wrong.

RuffianSoldier
23rd June 2005, 10:44
Im not sure that analogy makes sense, because it really depends on the genie....

Btw, congrats on the: Posts: 555