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    Security and Legality

    Okay well some of you seemed interested in seeing the notes from one of my security and legality classes, these notes I'm posting are from a pretty basic network seurity class, it covered more the theoretical side of these things than the technical aspects.
    That makes the notes a bit easier to understand, I guess, even for someone who might not have any programming knowledge to begin with.

    If there is enough demand I will try to make a full report once a week or something on each one of those files of notes, the reports I had in mind would go into more detail about each point on the page of notes in question.

    http://www.mpcforum.com/l7j/Security...lity_Notes.rar

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    Yes please!

    I am very much interested in the theories of these, I did eBusiness Law myself, as well as IT Security infrastructures (virii/worms/trojans) - though most have been forgotten, I would love to see these notes

    Also interested in any hands-on methods to test out a network, anything that those 'white-hackers' use? Packet interceptors programs and such for a wireless connection, or, me, in the middle of the network, if I was to do something malicious, etc etc. Maybe some simple pinging script, to softwares that really test how the security of a network is... someone might be able to suggest a few?

    Anyways, looking forward to these notes!
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    woops I just realized that I forgot the link to the .rar with the notes oops

    first post edited.

    BTW like i said dunno how helpfull these notes will be but I am willing to write them out in more detail once per week I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by luck777jojo
    woops I just realized that I forgot the link to the .rar with the notes oops

    first post edited.
    Second time's a charm. And I'd also like your notes.

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    the link is there just took me 4 mins to find and edit the first post after I posted my last post

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    Downloaded, will have a look at it later and maybe comment on it tomorrow.
    Good night.
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    I've been through most of it and it's all interesting topics. Some of them I really got into. Like the - US in WW2: codetalkers in Navajo... (Which Japan was never able to crack.) Also, hiding files in plain site, and while you state not to count on it. It's really one of the best things that could be done, because people tend to overlook them. Like hiding an .exe inside of a .jpg or other image file.

    This part however I couldn't stop but howl when I was reading it.

    HOW DO YOU TAKE AWAY COMPUTER PRIVLEDGES?
    - spam his account, cause a lockout (max logins)
    - crash the system
    - bribe Jon
    - kill his account
    - smash every computer
    - blow up computer
    - hack website
    - multiple fork/DoS/shutdown server
    - masquerade as him and spam the dean
    - social engineering
    - change his password
    - kidnap!
    - commit a crime and frame him
    - disable his car/transportation
    - chop off his arms
    - have him arrested
    - spread rumor that due date extended
    - cut off internet
    - set the fire alarm/start a fire/sprinklers
    - e-mail virus
    - fake ID
    - blackmail
    - distract
    - imitate authorized user and disable accounts
    - shut off power
    Pretty elaberate means of taking away ones computer privleges for sure. I liked the emphisis on "kidnap!" LoL!

    At anyrate, I like all the topics in the notes and would definatly like to go into more detail on them. Even if it's something that goes over my head I can still google it and learn what it is I don't understand at the time.

    All and all definatly some really cool stuff. Thanks for posting it bro.
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    Yeah, I've finish looking through it.. nice, very nice summary...
    All these, took me one year to finish.. haha.. It was very similiar to the course I take, I wonder how deep into it, how detailed did I actually go...

    Looking forward to your report.. IF you feel like it Dont go thinking its a responsibility and take your own free time though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinosuke
    Dont go thinking its a responsibility and take your own free time though
    That's never a concern with me, I'm a lazy mofo so I put off things untill I fell like doing them without any though

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    A_W_E_S_O_M_E! thanks, had quite a few laughs while reading it

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    Quote Originally Posted by luck777jojo
    That's never a concern with me, I'm a lazy mofo so I put off things untill I fell like doing them without any though
    Sounds like me The cases presented in your notes, there are all famous cases right? eg, copyright, deeplinking, etc. I think Ive seen all somewhere from my eBusiness law course as well.. but I think we go into more detail on cases that related to our own country instead of the states - since the law we used to protect the consumers are based on our own.
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    yeah most of the cases that are in the notes are famous, some are made up but mostly they're all true.

    We did go into more detail I just basically took notes on the main subject so that I could jump start my brain before exams but yeah when I get around to writing up the reports I'll go into a bit more detail for each point hopefully (unless I find out I forgot everything completely )

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    Quote Originally Posted by luck777jojo
    (unless I find out I forgot everything completely )
    Like me, I will need hours of revision before I can say anything about this topic. So I better keep quiet and wait for your detailed notes
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    at best they're gonna be comming only this weekend, I have a speach about ebusiness I have to give to a business class in college on thursday so maybe after I finish that I'll get around to typing some of this stuff up

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    Yo.. those who are a more knowlegable.. is this okay?? O_O
    All I did was sniff the packets while checking email

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    Is it suppose to just show the password "Shinosuke123" like that? I mean.. it means there is no encryption on the password or whatsoever right?
    Would this be easier for people outside of the company.. or even on the LAN to find out?
    "There is a thrill in it, but it is like an addiction.. You constantly need more of a challenge to get something out of it." - (c)2006 Dark Blaze

    "Assume not that he who lends a helping hand is always happy" - (c)2003 « 死 之 助 »

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