Question: Are hacks detectable?

imortalweapon · 31st May 2006, 05:27

One of my higher level accounts got banned recently.

I'm just wondering if some hacks are detectable or if they're not.
My friend told me that a GM can't tell if a person is hacking unless they personally witness it.

I was really careful with that character so I don't think anyone reported him, meaning a GM would have no reason to visit him.

So, the question is, are some hacks detectable without being witnessed by GMs?

I'm thinking speed attack might be, because it messes with the flow of packets, and if the flow is irregular it might raise suspicious behavior?

xTakumEx · 31st May 2006, 05:40

Yeah i think some hacks would be. I honestly dont know.

avatarman92 · 31st May 2006, 06:59

gm's just quickly scan the screen and they are invisible so when someone reports you it just makes them look at you more..

DevineSol · 31st May 2006, 07:02

Gm invisible thing I heard is a rumor...

And im not sure about the hacks being detectable because everytime i got a char banned a gm would come searching for me

imortalweapon · 1st June 2006, 00:14

GMs have a "hide" techinique, so I know they can be invisible

(proof of this is from the data.wz database found at saunna.gibbed.us)

I'd really like to know if they can tell because I'm pretty sure no one reported me.

~~SMMPC~~ · 1st June 2006, 00:23

its gm dark sight

X103 · 1st June 2006, 00:44

From what I do hear GMs do have "invisible" mode, and the rumor says that they won't even show up in the mini-map as a red-dot. However their "entrance" to a map will screw up your vac ... so that is one indication.

As far as whether or not they can detect a hack ... I'm quite sure they can't otherwise my character would be banned long time ago ... cause I accidentally went to a GM event twice with a full god mode and speed atk (max speed on a spearman nonetheless).

But then again ... I believe one of the reason why most people who are banned are high lvl chars is that when you're up top then it would be very suspicious if you can still gain lvl in just short amount of time ... and I believe there are several GMs monitoring the high ranking players from time to time.

Anyway these are just my opinion from experience.

imortalweapon · 1st June 2006, 05:39

You'd think they'd be able to monitor the server somehow for irregular packet flow

jayce_mednick · 1st June 2006, 06:19

-sigh- if you want to know if a gm is in your map, press Alt+F12, and a little black box appears in the top right corner of your screen, once all the numbers turn to 9's, theres a GM in your map, and u should turn off your hacks

imortalweapon · 1st June 2006, 07:00

Jayce, I've read that in several places but I've also read that was just some rumor someone started.

I have yet to see proof of either side.

shorthondaguy · 1st June 2006, 09:39

that invisible gm thing is true, because a gm came into my channel wen i was vaccing and he got hit by one of the vacced monsters then killed every monster one the screen. wen he got hit he turned visible. and i also had alt-f12 on and the numbers didnt have any 9's in it.

imortalweapon · 3rd June 2006, 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by shorthondaguy

that invisible gm thing is true, because a gm came into my channel wen i was vaccing and he got hit by one of the vacced monsters then killed every monster one the screen. wen he got hit he turned visible. and i also had alt-f12 on and the numbers didnt have any 9's in it.

So we have some evidence that the alt+f12 thing doesn't work, but no proof

So, does no one have any idea about speed attack raising suspicion or does anyone have proof about the alt+f12 thing?

31st May 2006, 05:27	#1
imortalweapon Lord of Destiny Join Date: 6th May 2006 Posts: 60	Question: Are hacks detectable? One of my higher level accounts got banned recently. I'm just wondering if some hacks are detectable or if they're not. My friend told me that a GM can't tell if a person is hacking unless they personally witness it. I was really careful with that character so I don't think anyone reported him, meaning a GM would have no reason to visit him. So, the question is, are some hacks detectable without being witnessed by GMs? I'm thinking speed attack might be, because it messes with the flow of packets, and if the flow is irregular it might raise suspicious behavior?

31st May 2006, 05:40	#2
xTakumEx Lord of Destiny Join Date: 12th Apr 2006 Posts: 63	Yeah i think some hacks would be. I honestly dont know. __________________ Wishing to learn.

31st May 2006, 06:59	#3
avatarman92 Lord of Destiny Join Date: 23rd Apr 2006 Posts: 73	gm's just quickly scan the screen and they are invisible so when someone reports you it just makes them look at you more..

31st May 2006, 07:02	#4
DevineSol Lord Join Date: 7th Apr 2006 Posts: 30	Gm invisible thing I heard is a rumor... And im not sure about the hacks being detectable because everytime i got a char banned a gm would come searching for me

1st June 2006, 00:14	#5
imortalweapon Lord of Destiny Join Date: 6th May 2006 Posts: 60	GMs have a "hide" techinique, so I know they can be invisible (proof of this is from the data.wz database found at saunna.gibbed.us) I'd really like to know if they can tell because I'm pretty sure no one reported me.

1st June 2006, 00:23	#6
~~SMMPC~~ Banned by Admins Lord of Destiny Join Date: 11th Aug 2005 Posts: 54	its gm dark sight

1st June 2006, 00:44	#7
X103 Lord Join Date: 19th Apr 2006 Posts: 30	From what I do hear GMs do have "invisible" mode, and the rumor says that they won't even show up in the mini-map as a red-dot. However their "entrance" to a map will screw up your vac ... so that is one indication. As far as whether or not they can detect a hack ... I'm quite sure they can't otherwise my character would be banned long time ago ... cause I accidentally went to a GM event twice with a full god mode and speed atk (max speed on a spearman nonetheless). But then again ... I believe one of the reason why most people who are banned are high lvl chars is that when you're up top then it would be very suspicious if you can still gain lvl in just short amount of time ... and I believe there are several GMs monitoring the high ranking players from time to time. Anyway these are just my opinion from experience.

1st June 2006, 05:39	#8
imortalweapon Lord of Destiny Join Date: 6th May 2006 Posts: 60	You'd think they'd be able to monitor the server somehow for irregular packet flow

1st June 2006, 06:19	#9
jayce_mednick Lord Join Date: 8th Jan 2006 Posts: 37	-sigh- if you want to know if a gm is in your map, press Alt+F12, and a little black box appears in the top right corner of your screen, once all the numbers turn to 9's, theres a GM in your map, and u should turn off your hacks

1st June 2006, 07:00	#10
imortalweapon Lord of Destiny Join Date: 6th May 2006 Posts: 60	Jayce, I've read that in several places but I've also read that was just some rumor someone started. I have yet to see proof of either side.

1st June 2006, 09:39	#11
shorthondaguy Dark Mage Join Date: 31st Mar 2006 Posts: 23	that invisible gm thing is true, because a gm came into my channel wen i was vaccing and he got hit by one of the vacced monsters then killed every monster one the screen. wen he got hit he turned visible. and i also had alt-f12 on and the numbers didnt have any 9's in it.